Former Reagan Official "a year from now the US could be a dictatorial police state at war with Iran.

[Blackhatjack]

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Oldline_Republican_warns_somethings_in_works_0719.html

"Old-line Republican warns 'something's in the works' to trigger a police state"

by Muriel Kane
Published: Thursday July 19, 2007

Thom Hartmann began his program on Thursday by reading from a new Executive Order which allows the government to seize the assets of anyone who interferes with its Iraq policies. He then introduced old-line conservative Paul Craig Roberts -- a former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury under Reagan who has recently become known for his strong opposition to the Bush administration and the Iraq War -- by quoting the "strong words" which open Roberts' latest column: "Unless Congress immediately impeaches Bush and Cheney, a year from now the US could be a dictatorial police state at war with Iran."

"I don't actually think they're very strong," said Roberts of his words. "I get a lot of flak that they're understated and the situation is worse than I say. ... When Bush exercises this authority ... there's no check to it. It doesn't have to be ratified by Congress. The people who bear the brunt of these dictatorial police state actions have no recourse to the judiciary. So it really is a form of total, absolute, one-man rule. ... The American people don't really understand the danger that they face."

Roberts said that because of Bush's unpopularity, the Republicans face a total wipeout in 2008, and this may be why "the Democrats have not brought a halt to Bush's follies or the war, because they expect his unpopular policies to provide them with a landslide victory in next year's election."

However, Roberts emphasized, "the problem with this reasoning is that it assumes that Cheney and Rove and the Republicans are ignorant of these facts, or it assumes that they are content for the Republican Party to be destroyed after Bush has his fling." Roberts believes instead that Cheney and Rove intend to use a renewal of the War on Terror to rally the American people around the Republican Party. "Something's in the works," he said, adding that the Executive Orders need to create a police state are already in place.

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Can't say the warnings are not being put out about this Administration.

IMHO liberal Democrats and traditional Republicans will have a lot more in common with each other than with this Administration, and eventually liberal Democrats and traditional Republicans will be on the same side fighting a common enemy --those who would dismantle our democratic constitutional form of government using the pretext of fighting terrorism to ensconce themselves into seats of power they intend to hold permanently.

[Blackhatjack]

1. Raises the question --"Are the plans of this Administration more evil than we ever imagined?"

How can the actions of this Administration be interpreted any other way?

[Ezlivin]

4. Yes. The common German had no idea of what Hitler was really up to

And even after the war they had a very hard time believing what they were told of Hitler's actions. (This according to Milton Mayer's book, "They Thought They Were Free.")

I don't believe that the common American has any clue as to what Bush et al is up to.

One day we all will awake horrified at what's transpired "under our noses."

[C_U_L8R]

2. When even Republicans start freaking out

at this corrupt administration... it's time.

[Blackhatjack]

3. Some of the comments coming from former Reagan Admin officials are just astounding...

Can everyone be deaf, dumb and blind to what they are saying?

I tell you, we have a lot in common with traditional Republicans when it comes to this Administration and its unlawful policies.

It is not just a Democrat v. Republican struggle anymore.

[gasperc]

5. Bush and Rove want to create conditions for GOP win in 2008

Bush doesn't want to be President for life, he wants to go back to Crawford, watch baseball and eat ho-ho's. Rove doesn't want the GOP to get wiped out in 2008. They are trying to find a way to pivot support back to the GOP. They are in a very tight box. If a false flag event does occur, it will likely freeze the economy. People won't spend, unemployment will move up, as is the Iraq war, it'll be totally unpredictable. The fed will flood the markets with capital but it probably won't be enough. No, it has to do more with set up the debate in September, setting up Bush's coming veto's, finding a way to cripple the Democrats in the fall. The move of the report to November is important, very important, yet another lie in project kick the can. It would be great for just one Senator to stand in the well of the Senate Chamber and ask is this another lie in the on-going broken promises by this administration. It's a ruse. Just like the stupid sending the debate materials to the Gore campaign trick. What we need are counter -measures for all of there actions and start pushing back hard. Forcing the cloture votes and letting the GOP filibuster the Levin-reed amendment was important first step. We need to learn from that experience and do better next time.

[Dr.Phool]

6. I've seen it coming for a while.

If they're not impeached, there may not be elections in 2008.

[AllexxisF1]

7. I just do not trust them.

But who is to say these monsters won't invoke a tragedy 10x worse than 9-11 that conveniently points to Iran and possibly North Korea. I know it sound like something right out of a movie but could that seriously happen?

I really doubt anything like that would happen in this country but seriously look at the men involved and you begin to get that nauseating feeling in the back of your throat.

[Blackhatjack]

8. I think they will act boldly under a subtle pretense...

I think it is more likely they will 'use' some event they claim is tied directly to Iran to launch an attack on Iran --which will have two effects. It will suck all the oxygen out of the effort to bring the troops home from Iraq, and it will focus the attention of the nation on Iran and the broader Middle East as the new battleground to prevent terrorist attacks here at home.

[cassiepriam]

9. I agree, there is something going on that has caused even the repugs to panic.

Something in the wind that they know and we don't.

[NCarolinawoman]

10. This is why so many in/or of the military are leaving the Republican party.

Jim Webb being a prime example.

[lonestarnot]

11. Remember the secret shit that some journalists were exposed to but sworn to secrecy?

Little timmy rusturd was one of them. Some of their faces were drained of blood when they saw it? Well this is the time period, 1 month late, but the plans were developing then, June was the month mentioned, so they're a month late. The fucking jig is up, but all the effort thus far has been nothing but a feeble stall job waiting out the clock. They will and apparently can do anything in the vacuum they have created. And we are just going to have to be satisfied with watching apparently.

[Blackhatjack]

12. I do remember ... Brian Williams had a reporter's notebook full of quotes he could not share....

That was one of the most awkward interviews I ever saw with a MSM anchor(Williams).

And the fact that they could not share what they learned was stated... and Williams said something like they were going to have go back over what was said and try to determine what it meant.

[Blackhatjack]

19. Here is a link to a story on event .... LINK

http://www.mensvogue.com/business/media/articles/2007/02/brian_williams

"He's talking at a rapid clip to his NBC colleague Tim Russert, the host of Meet the Press, about the exclusive Roosevelt Room meeting they just had with President George W. Bush. This was the plan: Williams and Russert and their network peers (Gibson, Couric, Schieffer, Stephanopoulos, and others) would get the president's perspective on the troop surge he was scheduled to announce in a few hours, and no quotes would be allowed to emerge without approval. But some doozies, like the one Williams and Russert are kibitzing about, slipped out of the president's mouth. When this happened, Williams recalls, he looked around at the ashen faces of White House aides, who quickly imposed a retroactive lockdown on that tidbit, whatever it was.

And so Williams keeps the secret,..."
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I cannot find any clips of the interview. If anyone has a link, please post it ....

[eShirl]

13. no, I don;t remember

what are you talking about?

[Blackhatjack]

16. Before one of Bush's speeches(maybe SOTU) he invited reporters inside the WH beforehand...

I believe it was Chris Matthews interviewing Brian Williams and Timmy Russert about what was said.

Brian Williams and Tim Russert both looked shocked, and gave very awkward answers about what had been said and what they could reveal.

Williams said none of the reporters knew Bush was going to do this in advance.

When questioned about the content, Williams said the President essentially gave a view of the entire world and not just Iraq. When pressed about what was said, Williams held up his reporters notebook which he said was full of quotes he could not reveal, but would have to go back and examine to determine what all this means.

Russert was not his usual self, appeared to be off-balance, and stated he was surprised at what had happened.

There was no followup to this interview as I am aware, but it was commented on here at DU extensively.

[lonestarnot]

18. and then silence. Silence kills!

[FogerRox]

14. ARG !

[Fly by night]

15. "eventually liberal Democrats and traditional Republicans will be on the same side fighting ...

... a common enemy." Truer words were never spoken. And they will be joined by a lot of Independents and politically apathetic Americans who nonetheless can smell a Nazi overthrow of their America and will rise to put a stop to it because they love their country even though they can't stomach our politicians.

When that time comes, if you're waiting on us Tennesseans before you start to fight back, you'll be backing up.

[liberalsoldier5]

17. I remember listening to Rush a while back...

since I always try to educate myself on what the GOP is saying/thinking. Anyways, one day right after a commercial break Rush split from whatever he was talking about during the afternoon and awkwardly shifted to Iran. The tone of his was completely different than, slow and actually soft. It was strange. And then he finally pronounced something along the lines of:


"I gotta tell ya folks, if Iran becomes a nuclear power or grows into an actual, serious threat to United States security, I gotta tell ya, I honestly and sincerely believe that President Bush will not leave office. Not if Iran gets a nuclear weapon. I just don't think he will."


And then he went back to hollering about whatever he was complaining about that day.

I was riding in the car with a buddy of mine, a Republican but a good guy, and even he was silent. I remember him saying to me: "Wow, it's like he was handed a talking point for the future by the government... to get the base prepared..."

As many of you can tell from my posts, I'm a pretty moderate liberal and generally strongly oppose all conspiracy nonsense and "our country is fascist and Bush is Hitler" crap- BUT HEARING THIS send chills up my spine that stuck with me for the rest of the day.

Stay on the look out, guys.

[abq e streeter]

20. A small hopeful sign

I'm a pessimist at heart. Nearly 56 years of being a Cubs fan will do that to you. But I just had a brief and unexpected conversation with one of my few right wing friends. He told me that I might not believe him, but that he hates Bush even more than me. Told him that's probably not possible, but go ahead. And he said Bush has "destroyed " his party and that he's " as frightened as any liberal" by things like the trashing of habeus corpus. Maybe there's actually some hope to at some point get him to understand that the frightening thing is that Bush isn't an aberration , but a logical , if particularly ignorant , extension of what American conservatism has been degenerating into for decades now. And if this guy's beginning to get it, at least a little , maybe others too are FINALLY waking up. But I have great fears like many of you here that the fascist state is already here; that we've passed the point of being able to stop them. My 89 year old father; (a lifelong Democrat but always a very moderate one) , stunned me about a year and a half ago by telling me he saw parallels between Bush regime America and Germany in the early Hitler years. And this man spent three years of his life trudging through Europe and has a scar on his leg courtesy of a Nazi bullet, so he's earned the right to make this comparison. So Jeff, my right wing friend, I'm frightened too. You and those on your side have an enormous responsibility to speak up, speak now, and speak loudly. I'm waiting; were all waiting... ( and on a lighter note, as a Cub fan, yes I'm aware they have the best record in baseball since the day Carlos Zambrano punched Michael Barret's lights out----trying to not get too excited yet---the pessimism doesn't go away easily).

[frylock]

21. and this is why i'm buying guns..

seriously.

[Blackhatjack]

22. I doubt guns will do you much good if they are out to get you... have to be smarter than that