This is their creed. This is what they believe. They don't get the irony.

[pepperbear]

It is frightening.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1866197/posts

No, health care is not a right. Fair and balanced is not a right. Equal time is not a right. Free housing, free food, free education, free beer, etc, are not rights. Abortion is not a right. Gay marriage is not a right. "Entitlements" are not rights. In fact, no one is entitled to anything taken from others, including our tax dollars. And illegal aliens have no right to be here at all, much less rights to entitlements, free housing, free food, free health care, free education, or anything else.

*snip*

And it gets worse. I will say here and NOW that I will be in the foxhole on the other side of the field from these people when the inevitable happens.

FUCK YOU, CONSERVATIVES.

[EVDebs]

1. Just quote the Bible at 'em and watch their heads explode:

"The King will reply, "I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of my brothers, you did for me." Matthew 25 : 40.

[theredpen]

5. Social Justice and Christianity

Christian Freepers (which means almost all Freepers) react to the term "Social Justice" as if it were poison. I actually read one Freeper comment that said, "Why do liberal Christians always have to quote the Sermon on the Mount?"

Um, 'cause Jesus said it? Do liberal Christians need another reason to cite something from the Bible?

If you want to stop a Freeper fundie in his or her tracks, don't throw Sam Harris at 'em, throw Bishop Spong at 'em.

[Richard Steele]

6. Hiya RedPen! Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[Doc_Technical]

7. Freepers believe in this quotation.

The point of dispute between them and us is the word

"brothers".

To be a "brother" to a Freeper, you must be like him

in political/religious beliefs, and appearance.

If you are not like them, then you are an atheist,

communist, islamo-fascist traitor who hates this country

and the "True God".

[theredpen]

9. Then throw more Bible at 'em

Freepers will prevaricate their way out of any moral consistency, but they won't discredit a Bible quote. Even the few atheist Freepers know better than to diss "the Word."

This quote does say "bretheren" (in the NSRV, it's "family"). He is not speaking of all people, however verses 31-32 make it clear He is talking about all righteous people (the "sheep" as compared with the "goats") and explaining that in order to be in the group at His right hand, you must have treated everyone else in that group as if they, too, were Divine.

Technically, you could argue that you could make it into the "sheep" group if you had been a jerk to the "goat" group, but since God would not have made this distinction until the Day of Judgment, you aren't authorized to make it beforehand ("Oh, I'll torture this person, they're not righteous.") The "economy of Grace" that allows God to choose who is righteous and who isn't depending on a variety of factors (including His own discretion -- non-Christians can qualify) is a Catholic hermeneutic, and the evangelical Freepers will disagree with it.

The Catholic Freepers are kind of like a gang on Free Republic; if they are attacked, they fight back as a group. Many of them are opposed to the Iraq war, but they are usually quiet about it. Free Republic puts up with them because they are vocally Christian, generally conservative (some are very, very, conservative) and staunchly anti-abortion. Generally, I've found them to be the most kind and decent ("kind" and "decent" relative to FR) people on Free Republic, but maybe that's because I understand them better than the others.

And thanks, everyone, for the welcome to DU. I've been a long time reader and an occasional donor. I've obviously spent waaaaaaaaaay too much time studying the activity on Free Republic. To quote "get your war on", it's like watching a train wreck made entirely out of words; sometimes you can't look away.

[EVDebs]

14. Send 'em to the parable of the Good Samaritan...Luke 10 : 25 - 37

"Jesus puts the definition of neighbor into an enlarged context, beyond what people usually thought of as a neighbor. <1>"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan

To further blow some minds,

"The incident begins when a religious scholar of the Law tests Jesus by asking him what is necessary to inherit eternal life. Jesus asks the lawyer what the Mosaic Law says about it. When the lawyer quotes the scripture, saying "Love God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength and all your mind (Deuteronomy 6:5), and the parallel law of "Love your neighbor as yourself" (Leviticus 19:18), Jesus says that he has answered correctly — "Do this and you will live," he tells him. See also this section of Ministry of Jesus. This can be understood as meaning that those who follow the law, Jewish or not, will be able to inherit eternal life. <2>"

Quite like Micah 6: 7 - 8 as to what God requires of us

[theredpen]

2. You snipped out the "money quote"...

Jim Robinson says that life is a right. Apparently, only when that life doesn't need health care.

On a side note, this post was a "patriotic" speech intended to rile up Freepers to donate to the current Freepathon. If you take the time to browse the history in the Freepathon threads, you'll see a downward spiral in financial support. This time around, there has been a plunge. I'm guessing it's due to the site's Stalinist purge of Guiliani supporters.

Panic has set in and they're eating their own. :rofl:

[pepperbear]

3. Hey now! Welcome to DU! n/t

[tabasco]

4. Are massive deficits a right? Corporate welfare?

Bush seems to think borrowing lots of money from China, etc. is a right.

Bush seems to think funneling tax money to the super-rich is a right.

I guess these idiots are okay with that though.

I wonder why the poster is not in Iraq?

OH! They do consider "being a stupid, gullible loser civilian" IS a right.

Sure wouldn't want to bother these giants of political philosophy with military service.

[LibDemAlways]

8. OK, so these morons don't want their tax dollars

spent helping anybody. Does that include themselves? Do they refuse to call the police when they've been robbed? Do they refuse to call the fire department when their house is burning? Do they refuse to get a library card? Do they refuse to drive on a public street? Do they refuse to flush a toilet into a public sewer? Do they refuse to eat food that's been 'government' inspected? Do they refuse to attend a free 4th of July fireworks display?

The idiocy is astonishing. The fact is we all rely on public services that exist for the collective public good. All the crap about the government being the enemy and people needing to fend for themselves is utter and complete horseshit. The same politicians who spout such nonsense are themselves collecting government paychecks and enjoying government benefits, but the lowlife freeps are too stupid to see it.

[SammyWinstonJack]

10. But bombing the crap out a sovereign nation that didn't deserve it and never did any thing to the U.

S. and spending billions upon billions is something they can get behind? :banghead: They are fine with billions spent on Iraqis to rebuild their Country that we destroyed, instead of having those billions spent here at home? Well just so those billions don't provide free anything for Americans who don't deserve anything free, I guess. :argh: And who will be the first in line for "handouts" when they are down and out? Are there no poor repubs? Are there no repubs who have been financially destroyed for lack of health care, been bankrupted by an illness? Why the hell is wrong with these people? Selfish a$$holes, the lot of them! :grr:

[Megahurtz]

13. Yeah, Just Wait 'Till THEIR TIME Comes.

So they believe that they are safe??? :rofl:
At the rate things are going in this Country their time will come. :evilgrin:

[Aristus]

11. "No one is entitled to anything taken from others..."

Then go back to whatever Old World shithole you crawled out of, freeper! This entire country was taken from others! Practice what you preach! Sheesh! :eyes:

[Az]

12. Actually they are correct. Those aren't rights. But they are the intent of this nation

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

This is the intended purpose of convening these United States of America. It is not a right of a person to expect another to do anything for them. But those that come together in a society do so in the understanding that it is the collected effort of all that lead to a better life for all. And within that structure of society there are some things that are recognized as being necessary for the efficient flow of society.

It is not a right. But it is the purpose of this nation to help one another. To build a better union of people. Striving together to make a better place for all. And it is demonstrable that helping those in need does in fact increase the condition of all. Thus it is in our interest to help those that need help.

[Warren DeMontague]

15. How bout this, assholes: Imposing your fucking religion on everyone else is not a right.

Telling terminally ill people that "god" (and his designated Republican politicians) knows better than they do when they should be permitted to leave this Earth is not a right.

Having your kids taught some ridiculous bullshit gobbledygook about Noah's Ark and a 6,000 year old Earth and "Intelligent Design" in public school science class is not a right.

Your kids do have the right to pray, and despite what you may have been told about a massive church shortage in this country, there are plenty of places that are not Public Schools where they can do it in an organized, led, fashion.

Having TRILLIONS of our tax dollars pissed away on corporate welfare giveaways, no-bid contracts to Bechtel and Halliburton, and a massively bloated Military Industrial complex larger than the defense expenditures of every other nation on EARTH is not a right.

Having an idiot boy-king who shits all over the Constitution (and you call yourselves "patriotic". Bah.) at home as he spends American blood on wars based on cheap lies abroad is not a right.

Telling everyone else and their bastard brother bob how they should live their lives, what they should do with their own bodies, and what consenting adult relationships and institutions (including marriage) they should or should not be allowed to enter in is not only none of your fucking business, it's also not a right.

Imposing your narrow-ass ideas about what is "appropriate" for consenting adults to read, watch on tv, or do in the privacy of their own homes is not a right, although it does become a fucking JOKE when your best "family values" waterheads are all either seducing high school boys in chat rooms or paying DC hookers $300 an hour to put 'em in pampers.