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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 05:29 PM
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ACLU: Exec Order on Iraq Threatens Due Process
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ACLU: Exec Order on Iraq Threatens Due Process
By Spencer Ackerman - July 20, 2007, 11:30 AM

President Bush's new executive order targeting financial assets of Iraqi insurgents risks having "a chilling effect" on humanitarian donations in Iraq, according to Michael German, the ACLU's chief national security security lawyer. And those who find themselves in contravention of the order -- a determination residing entirely within the executive branch -- would have no due process rights to contest the freezing of their assets.

Citing the order's "very loose definition of who's doing something improper," German, a former FBI agent, says "a lot of these provisions where charities are being demonized, to a certain extent, would cause a chilling effect, and that's what's so counterproductive with this type of policy."

German disputed Treasury Department spokeswoman Molly Millerwise's depiction of the order as a narrowly-focused measure against supporters of the Iraqi insurgency. "She's saying this doesn't affect (legitimate) charitable donations. Actually, it directly does." The order skips right over a relevant citation: section 203b(2) (pdf) of the International Economic Emergency Powers Act, which specifically denies to the president the ability to "regulate or prohibit ... donations, by persons subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, of articles, such as food, clothing and medicine, intended to be used to deal with human suffering." The order accepts the other restrictions applied by IEEPA, intended to protect, among other things, postal communications and legitimate journalism from unilateral executive restriction.

And that leads to to the broader problem with the order, according to Gerson: "the complete lack of due process" for those accused of violating it. Once someone's assets are frozen, there's no conviction, no appellate process. A better way of stopping terrorist finance, he says, would be "to bring them into court, and do something that would expose their activity... the idea that the executive can seize whatever he wants on his own volition with no sort due process cuts against American principles -- exactly the principles we're trying to get these other countries to follow."
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 05:31 PM
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1. Due process is "quaint"
Didn't you get the memo, er, Executive Order on that?
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 05:44 PM
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2. What the 5th Amendment Has To Say
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


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slowry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 05:52 PM
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3. Hah. Didn't a poster call everyone tin-foilers for being concerned about this, yesterday?
Edited on Fri Jul-20-07 05:57 PM by slowry
And suggested they'd care "when the ACLU takes it up"? Just sayin' :P.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 07:22 PM
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4. I missed that - sorry I did! nt
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