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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:06 PM
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Elizabeth Edwards on live with Larry King-8:06 pm CT. nt
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Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:08 PM
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1. Aww. I wish I had cable.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:49 PM
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2. Hope she can control her diarrhea of the mouth.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 08:58 PM
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3. OOH! I take it you don't like her. nt
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 09:49 PM
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4. She speaks the truth, sorry if you don't like hearing it. n/t
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:27 PM
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5. It's Her truth.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 10:49 PM
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6. What???
Got any particular examples?

Yeah. Someone who doesn't test every sentence that comes out of her mouth with a fucking focus group. (Cough.)

What a radical! :eyes:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 12:07 AM
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7. Guess we're not gonna get any examples. nt
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 01:05 AM
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8. You're guessing right.
By the way - I don' have to like her.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 01:47 AM
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9. That's right. She's just one of many prominent members of the Democratic Party that we don't HAVE to
like.

Know what I mean?

I just find it interesting that you would throw that out there like you did, and not be willing to back it up. I mean, "verbal diarrhea"... that's pretty harsh.

Sounds to me like you have a very specific idea of the comments you're talking about, you're willing to slam her on 'em... yet you're not willing to mention what those comments, specifically, ARE.

Weird.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 02:11 AM
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11. Mrs. Edwards suggestion
that Mrs. Clinton does no care about Women'ss issues - was beyond stupid. It grated on me. Since Mrs. Clinton is a prominent member of the Democratic Party - I take it you like her.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 02:46 AM
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13. There are plenty of prominent members of the Dem. party that I don't particularly care for.
Edited on Sat Jul-21-07 02:51 AM by impeachdubya
Biden, Feinstein.. Actually, I used to like Hillary a lot more-- I think her utter inability to formulate a cogent, morally consistent response on the subject of Iraq is a real problem. A major problem. I also think she's engaged in downright silly pandering on issues from flag burning to video games. I think she's trying to play Bill's "triangulation" game, but the American people are in a vastly different place now than they were 10-15 years ago.

Lots of us were in a different place back then-- I liked Hillary a lot more in 1993. Go figure.

But my point was, actually, in agreement with you- we don't HAVE to like prominent democrats; you don't have to like EE, I don't have to like HRC; although if she is the nominee I will, of course, support her.

Thanks for answering my question. I wasn't aware of Elizabeth Edwards' comments on that. The most noteworthy comments I've read about her making recently had to do with gay marriage and rights, and I thought they were brave and admirable. To the point that I wished she was running, moreso than her husband.

After checking around, I came to the conclusion that these had to be the comments in question: (and I hadn't read them until now)

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/07/18/elizabeth-edwards-offers-sharp-critique-of-hillary/

“On the issues that are important to women, she has not … well, healthcare, that’s enormously important to women, all the polls say, and what she says now is, we’re going to have a national conversation about healthcare,” Edwards said in the Salon interview. “And then she describes some cost-saving things, which John also supports, but she acts like that’s going to make healthcare affordable to everyone. And she knows it won’t. She’s not really talking about poverty, when the face of poverty is a woman’s face, often a single mother.”


I don't know, I think it's a little extreme to call that "diarrhea of the mouth". On some of it, I agree with her- I think Edwards is stronger on Health Care (Kucinich is even stronger) and Edwards really is the only one who has spend a solid amount of time talking about poverty. That's the truth. Now, maybe Elizabeth Edwards should have brought up reproductive rights; certainly I think that is a big important issue to women, or to anyone concerned with the right of people to control their own bodies and lives for that matter--- when it comes to positions on reproductive choice, though, I think Edwards v. Hillary is kind of a wash- they're both solidly pro-choice as I understand it; although, again, getting back to the pandering thing, Hillary made some really disturbing noises about the need to "speak to" pro-life voters-- stuff that really contradicted the unapologetically pro-choice speech I saw her give at the 2004 March For Womens' Lives.

If she really wanted to pull the rug out from under the so-called pro-life movement and get the so-called moderates on board, she would be out there every day talking about the one thing that WILL reduce abortion rates- contraception. Unfortunately, the war on contraception is part and parcel of the religious right agenda, and apparently the DLC's brilliant (cough) game plan of "wooing the values voters" involves not mentioning anything that might upset them, like the fact that some folks screw for non-procreative purposes.
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:21 AM
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15. Was that a direct quote?
I get so perturbed over the media - and others - who take a statement that Elizabeth made in regards to a question she received in an interview, and all of a sudden we have headlines like this:

ELIZABETH EDWARDS SLAMS HILLARY

Where was the SLAM exactly in her statement? She supports her husband. DUH. The exaggerations in the headlines are misleading and it never ceases to amaze me how gullible people are.

Get a thicker skin. I assure you, Hillary has and she is riding a wave of high poll numbers. Elizabeth's point, and I think it is a good one, is that you shouldn't vote for a woman simply because of her gender. It is important to understand where they stand on issues. On the issues that matter the most to Elizabeth and John, John leads the pack. Those issues are poverty and health care. John has detailed plans on both and they are issues that directly affect women.

I happen to agree with Elizabeth, and as a woman, I proudly support John Edwards.



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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 01:52 AM
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10. Are you for real or what?
:eyes:
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 02:16 AM
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12.  *cough* paid to post *cough*
Edited on Sat Jul-21-07 02:17 AM by libnnc
"It" is not real.

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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 02:48 AM
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14. Hey! I saw one of those ads the other day!
Edited on Sat Jul-21-07 02:50 AM by impeachdubya
I thought it was a joke.

Jeez, for my money, I would want something more clever than that line. Who knows, maybe some DLC nabob thought that up so they could piggyback on the Vitter thing? :shrug:
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