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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:01 PM
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Which "Compassionate Conservative" group is the most vile and heartless?
My choice would be the Traditional Values Coalition.

Why?

Listed as a Hate Group
It's purpose seems to be about opposing things
Has completely opposed gay adoption, even though they have acknowledged that it would put many children in orphanages

BTW, they've blocked DU from accessing their site, but don't take my word for it.

Click link, then go up to URL bar, and press enter and see what happens

Which group do you think is the least compassionate?
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:02 PM
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1. Which bucket of diarrhea is more disgusting?
What's the point of making the distinction?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:10 PM
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5. yep
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:14 PM
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9. I didn't think it could happen, but I think that picture made me hate them just a bit more.
At least they deserve it.
;)
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:05 PM
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2. Let me see
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:06 PM
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3. Try this
Edited on Sat Jul-21-07 07:06 PM by IanDB1
http://tinyurl.com/2ffydc

Computer says Nooo...

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:08 PM
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4. Here's what The Southern Poverty Law Center says about them
Edited on Sat Jul-21-07 07:09 PM by IanDB1


Holy War
The religious right's anti-gay crusade heats up
Religious leaders have engaged in 30 years of name-calling and bogus 'science' in their attack on gays. But only now is their crusade reaching biblical proportions.
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/intrep.jsp?iid=31



Traditional Values Coalition
ANAHEIM, Calif.
www.traditionalvalues.org

Nobody has warned Americans about the "gay threat" longer, or louder, than former Presbyterian minister and Pat Robertson protégé Lou Sheldon, already a veteran anti-gay crusader when he founded the Traditional Values Coalition (TVC) in 1981.

Sheldon, who deems homosexuality a "deathstyle," sends a steady stream of sensationalistic fundraising appeals to TVC members (he claims 43,000 churches are part of his coalition). Most center around the idea that child-molesting is the real "homosexual agenda."

"They want our preschool children. ... They want our kindergarten children. ... They want our middle school and high school children," read a recent direct-mail appeal.

In 1992, Sheldon reportedly told columnist Jimmy Breslin, "Homosexuals are dangerous. They proselytize. They come to the door, and if your son answers and nobody is there to stop it, they grab the son and run off with him. They steal him. They take him away and turn him into a homosexual."

TVC reports echo that theory: "As homosexuals continue to make inroads to the public schools, more children will be molested and indoctrinated into the world of homosexuality." Gay-Straight Alliances on high school campuses are also part of a plot to "target children for recruitment" to gay sex, cross-dressing and sex-change operations, TVC says.

Yet another TVC report claims "the deviant homosexual subculture has fueled efforts to normalize adult/child sex."

In 1985, Sheldon personally suggested putting AIDS victims into "cities of refuge." When a hate crimes bill was signed in the early 1990s in California, Sheldon told a reporter that it would "protect sex with animals and the rape of children as forms of political expression."

Sheldon and his daughter, Andrea Lafferty, are active lobbyists in Washington. In 1995, Sheldon managed to engineer a congressional hearing on gay activists' supposed infiltration of public schools in a bid to whip up support for Sen. Jesse Helms' bill to cut federal funds for schools "encouraging or supporting homosexuality."

But the hearing turned into a fiasco; the star witness was Claire Connolly, a lesbian who falsely accused gay male activists of using federal AIDS funds to hold orgies.

Still, Sheldon's hard edge has never faded. Commenting on "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy," Sheldon suggested the Bravo television network "consider airing a series called AIDS Hospice ... far more accurately portray the end results of homosexual sodomy."

More:
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=872

(SPLC allows reproduction of material with proper citation)
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:10 PM
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6. I would say either the American Family Association or Dobson's Focus On The Family
Jerry Falwell's "Moral Majority" would be another choice. Hell, they all suck.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:10 PM
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7. Ones that advocate killing
of viable human beings like women's clinic personnel to defend zygotes--or the ones that think it is better to throw away embryos instead of using them for stem cell research.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:24 PM
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11. And I was going to say
the ones that want to extract a pound of flesh from women who have had an abortion. They seem to have a need to believe that it psychologically destroys the woman having one so they play upon it. They seem to revel in any suffering and exploit it when they can. I've heard Dr Laura use the 'suck it into a sink' phrase as often as she can. They like to use the occasional woman who has turned fundamentalist to batter other women.
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:10 PM
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8. Interesting link.
I barely controlled my impulse to click on "Donate" and "Get Active"--but managed to restrain that impulse. Thank God!!

Tired Old Cynic

Oh--IMHO they are all equally and totally lacking in compassion. Which is why I, a lifelong Baptist fundie, no longer attend church or in any way affiliate myself with these wackos. I'll let God judge whether I'm right or wrong (if he actually exists...something I'm willing to question these days).

TOC again.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:16 PM
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10. Salvation Army is quite nasty
Denying shelter to gay kids who are homeless because their families kicked them out because they're gay... How "Christian" of them.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:27 PM
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12. Wealthy Families that start Foundations
Like the Bradley's of Milwaukee.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Banana_Republicans:_The_Marketplace_of_Ideas



The Marketplace of Ideas" is the title of chapter one of the 2004 book by Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber, Banana Republicans: How the Right Wing Is Turning America Into a One-Party State (ISBN 1585423424).

Summary

The right has risen by systematically developing and marketing conservative and corporate-friendly ideology. While corporations have cultivated direct political influence by financially supporting political candidates, a more profound effect has been achieved through their decades-long investment in financing the ideas that have driven the rise of the conservative movement.

A handful of foundations have been aggressively funding conservative think tanks and are now enjoying the fruits of this long-term investment. The most influential of these foundations include the Koch Family Foundations, Milwaukee-based Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, the John M. Olin Foundation and the Adolph Coors Foundation.

They have used their wealth in concert with a handful of other extraordinarily wealthy individuals to build a political machine that spreads their ideas about law, culture, politics and economics throughout the political and media establishment. They support industry-friendly think tanks, experts and subsidized media that repeat, embellish and reinforce their core message that corporations are good while government regulations, labor unions, environmentalists, liberal Democrats, and anything else that might restrict corporate behavior are bad.

Most foundations spend their money on "brick and mortar" philanthropy - hospitals, museums, universities and symphonies. Many have progressive intentions that they express by funding food banks, housing for the homeless, and other direct services to the poor, disabled or disadvantaged. What makes conservative foundations different is that they are remarkably unencumbered by these sorts of distractions, enabling them to focus in a disciplined way on achieving their direct political goals. Whereas other foundations mostly try to change the world by offering services, the conservative foundations have prioritized influencing ideas and policies.

Conservative funders also work cooperatively. They share information and strategies for giving through the Philanthropy Roundtable, a clearinghouse for conservative donors that arose in the late 1970s and whose activities exemplify the seriousness with which the conservative movement focuses on coordinating its activities. It holds annual and regional conferences, advises individual donors and grant-making foundations, and publishes papers and books with titles like Strategic Investment in Ideas, aimed at helping conservatives maximize the political impact of their grant-making. They have a long-term strategic vision forged through several decades of political organizing.
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:46 PM
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13. Whoa, talk about an unhealthy obsession with sex
No mention of Vitter so I suppose his behaviour is OK.

Paris Hilton, transgender bathrooms and equating gays with paedophiles seem to be the main course.

I pity them, the TVC are frightened of sex.
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