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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:27 PM
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Bring it on. I look forward to a Constitutional crisis. The process and the publicity
are good for the health of the federal government. It's an exercise that may well benefit all branches, either in the short term or the long term. The issues of executive privilege, Congressional oversight, and Constitutional law - the basic relationships between the executive, the legislative and judicial arms of government - need to be tested and reviewed.

It's implied in the Constitutional goal to a balance of power.

Bringing it to a head, as drawn out as that may entail, is just what the founding fathers had in mind.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:28 PM
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1. I hope we survive the wait. - n/t
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:33 PM
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3. We will, imo.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:34 PM
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4. Yes, but who won't? - n/t
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:33 PM
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2. We're already IN a Constitutional crisis. What they need to bring on...
...is the administration of justice.

NGU.


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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 08:48 PM
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7. And Been There Since 2000, If You Don't Count Clinton's Impeachment
I think you'd have to go back to McCarthy to get to the start of this whole mess.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:49 PM
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5. R'd. It's the only chance for bloodless change. nt
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 07:51 PM
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6. I am in
favor of having a re-awakening to the value and significance of that wonderful document, the Constitution of the United States.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 10:13 PM
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8. We will see who stands where.
And who stands with the Constitution.

We do live in interesting times.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 10:14 PM
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9. It's the last action
before hitting the street.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 10:18 PM
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10. Oh God I Absolutely Agree. The Dems Have Such Solid Ground Of Integrity To Stand On For Their Side
of the issue. The administration is forced to look like power hungry dictatorship seeking assholes with no regard for the very fabric of our constitution in their defense.

Biggest terrifying reality is that even having that said, an entirely new constitutional interpretation could arise in which we'll all be fucked. But let's hope we win this puppy.

But I'm definitely eager for the fight. We've known for years now things would come to a head, and it appears the days are soon upon us.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 10:28 PM
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11. Long overdue. We've actually been in a Constitutional crisis for six and a half years.
It's well past time to stop accommodating and appeasing the anti-democratic parasites that have infiltrated and subverting the institutions of American democracy.

They circumvented the intent of the founders to rob Gore of the presidency, then they set about circumventing the entire ideal of checks and balances that the founders designed to prevent the arrogation of power to one person or group.

It is time for them to go.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 10:39 PM
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12. I agree n/t
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Peggy Day Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-21-07 11:13 PM
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13. It's hard to have a Constitutional Crisis when the media ignores it.
I am so sick of people I know that haven't a clue about what is going on. When you try to enlighten them, they get a glazed over look, like I don't want to know, or as my sister said, "I just don't care".

Until the media joins us, nothing will happen. Do you realize all that they have ignored? They sure as hell don't ignore anything they can to make progressives look bad. The media has to talk about this.

I was in Washington DC for the 2004 election. When I got home 2 days later, there was a virtual lock out of news about the election. I could barely get any news on cable.

I call my Democratic representatives, and tell them what I think about:

inherent contempt
executive orders
Iraq
civil rights abuses
voting machines
Iran
contractors
missing money

I'm sure you could add to the list-we need more media besides Olbermann and Stewart and Colbert, Bill Maher.




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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 01:08 PM
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14. We can be the media-the MSM is irrelevant. n/t
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 01:10 PM
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15. We are 6.5 years to late.
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KAT119 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 02:40 PM
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16. We have been the truthful media for 6.5 years, creating
the Rise of The Internet(s) Revolution--The Blogosphere....

TV "news" viewership is way, way down, and "newspapers" are on life support....
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 02:48 PM
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17. I also look forward to the destruction of the RepubliCON party..n/t
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