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KAT119 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 11:03 AM
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How Close Are We To Themes of Movie "V for Vendetta"?
Theme of religious conservative zealot's policy of total domination through fear.(Cancellor)

Theme of freedom through liberation of one's fear of death (Evey, heroine)

Theme of succesful vengence/ elimination of evil gov't perpetrators (V, hero)

Theme of successful uprising of the people.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 11:08 AM
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1. I have never seen this Movie "V for Vendetta" anywhere, does it exist?
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 11:13 AM
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3. Your local video store has it, I"m sure n/t
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 02:37 PM
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24. it is also on HBO - was just on yesterday once again
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 11:13 AM
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4. I've seen it on television twice! It's both scary and hopeful. Try
to find a DVD or tape, something. Well worth watching in my book.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 11:23 AM
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9. Thanks, I'll check it out
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:26 PM
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25. Hate to tell you but it was on HBO last night....so it must be making
Edited on Mon Jul-23-07 10:26 PM by snappyturtle
the rounds again. I watched it for the third time...uncanningly scary....could be us in a few years. Hope you can find it.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 11:11 AM
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2. I think we're through the first three and working on the most important:
the last. I also think the second one is the most difficult. I'm almost sixty and could give my life knowing it would be a contribution to hopefully a better future for my children and future generations. However, it would be a much more difficult decision if I were younger.
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cyborg_jim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 11:15 AM
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6. Well...
Isn't that what soldiers do? Their ranks are normally occupied by the youngers after all.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 11:21 AM
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8. Only a small number are soldiers...and to answer your question,
Yes, it's exactly what soldiers do.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 11:15 AM
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5. Are you able to tell me the name that is associated with the mask?
I actually have that mask and hat in my house, and believe it has a name associated with it (?)
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 11:20 AM
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7. Guy Fawkes
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KAT119 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 11:51 AM
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10. Guy Fawkes Day is celebrated throughout England every Nov. 4th
He was a most treasured Freedom Fighter in England 400 yrs. (approx.) ago.

Ohter themes the movie contained:

The ends justified the means.
Strict curfews pretending to be "protecting" the people.
Everything was kept secret and classified from the people
All TV, radio, newspapers carried only fearful news 24/7
Virus spread was better than nukes/war as they would "kill the pople and keep the wealth intact."
Virus' were spread through mandatory vaccinations. Mass graves of virus victims.

People were taken to detainee cells/camps w/ black bags over their heads in middle of night.
Politicians told constant lies to cover up the truth.
Surveillance was EVERYWHERE!!.
Much talk of domestic "enemies" e.g homosexuals, anyone not christian, e.g muslims.

Just finished viewing this gripping/ all too parallel to life in USA video--brilliantly written by Wachowski brothers as a "futuristic" screen play....

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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 12:03 PM
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12. Thanks. I wonder if this celebrated day has anything to do with John Lennon's
... line,

"Remember........ remember..... the 5th... of November!"

:D
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bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 12:32 PM
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14. Yes.
Specifically.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 12:52 PM
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16. I think Guy Fawkes Day is Nov. 5th.
Remember, remember
the fifth of November,
the gunpowder treason
and plot.

I know of no reason
the gunpowder treason
should ever
be forgot.

Isn't that how it goes?

TC


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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 12:58 PM
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17. That is it.
Edited on Sun Jul-22-07 12:59 PM by MuseRider
I love that movie. There is just something about it that stirs the deep rebel in me. As someone who tries to be a pacifist it disturbs me somewhat to be so turned on by it but damn, I really liked that movie. Have not read the novel (gothic novel?).

Edit to add a t :)
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 01:06 PM
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20. The novel is very different from the movie (but, great)...
It is basically about the Thatcherite Movement in England back in the 80's. The Wachowski Bros. adapted the idea and theme and "hero", but moved the time forward about 25-30 yrs.

I thought the relationship between V and Evey was a little twisted, and, and had a hard time seeing a terrorist as a hero (but, I reasoned that one person's "terrorist" is another's "freedom fighter".) I thought it was a gripping movie, and spot-on to what's happening now, and what could happen down the line.

TC


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KAT119 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 01:02 PM
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18. That's right, it Is Nov. 5th, and those are the words repeated in the film....
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 12:01 PM
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11. I've known quite a few right-wingers
who felt the same way about "Red Dawn".

There's probably a sub-set of them who are disappointed it didn't happen.

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KAT119 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 12:08 PM
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13. Scenes of Heroine, Evey, so brilliantly played by Natalie Portman,
totally releasing her Fear of Death and becoming FREE-- (and experiencing a raising of her vibratory frequency, becoming invisible to a friend standing in line w/ her)-- is my immediate goal, as living with paralyzing fear of our EVIL In CHIEF/MONSTER IN CHIEF */ Cheney, is more than I can continue and stay healthy....

This movie was released in 2006 by Hollywood's Warner Bros. and becomes more meaningful by the minute.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 12:48 PM
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15. "Fight Club" theme of successfully punishing the credit card companies.
Edited on Sun Jul-22-07 12:49 PM by Democrats_win
"V" has just about everything right but for America, the problem is corporate fascists. They are a serious problem.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 01:04 PM
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19. I imagine closer than most would want to realize.
By the way I have V on DVD here at home and it's become my fall back movie on weekend nights. I couldn't tell you how many times I've seen V stick it to the rightwingers.
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KAT119 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 02:17 PM
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22. Am definitely purchasing DVD...needs to be either playing or
viewable on coffee table as reminder of our very real and present threats...and the immediate need to emancipate oneself/myself from Fear of Death...and the advantages of staying calm and alert and ready to act to preserve Freedom...or slavery is certain to occur....
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 01:19 PM
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21. i cant watch it and not want to take to the streets..
The movie floors me everytime!
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 02:35 PM
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23. It's very rousing.
I wonder if network television will ever air it in its entirety?

So far, only people who have seen it in theaters, those who have bought the DVD, and/or those who have HBO have been able to see it. It would beinteresting to see it shown un-cut to a larger group of Americans. I just doubt that will ever happen.

TC

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