Could Ron Paul Now Have The Chance to WIN Iowa GOP Straw Poll Next Month?!?!

[Dems Will Win]

Mitt Romney just announced he is lowering his investment in getting people out to the Ames Straw Poll in Iowa next month. It already was starting to look as though Ron Paul would be coming in a CLOSE SECOND thanks to the old Libertarians, many who became Republicans, energizing and organizing better than any other campaign.

Since the Ames Poll is open, the Paul cmapaign will be bussing them in from EVERYWHERE. However, you must have an Iowa Driver's License to actually vote. Howver, it appears there just might enough Iowa Paul supporters and GOTV volunteers from out of state for Paul to pull this off!

Romney just made it possible for Paul to win the whole thing, as Giuliani, McCain and Fred Thompson have already said they will be skipping Ames.

Don't expect a single MSM report from Ames now. They may not even send any reporters since Paul will likely win the vote and it's just too embarrassing for their Republican Overlords. And the Paul supporters will clearly be the loudest group at Ames.

ALGONA, Iowa (AP) - Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney said Saturday he has scaled back plans for a straw poll in Iowa next month that two chief rivals are bypassing.

He said he hopes to do well, but "we're not trying to overshoot dramatically." That means reducing the budget for the straw poll Aug. 11 in Ames and the number of supporters his campaign plans to bus in to the event.

In June, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Arizona Sen. John McCain bowed out of the decades-old nonbinding contest. Romney has put great resources into preparing for the event, which now shapes up as a contest involving several lesser-known contenders.

"I think initially we planned to bring in a very large number of folks from across the state for the straw poll," Romney told reporters. "We've cut back on our target from that standpoint to a level where we think we can win, but we're not trying to overwhelm anybody."

The straw poll is a dress rehearsal that allows GOP candidates to measure their organizational strength months before the Iowa caucuses in January, a one-day contest that requires a strong get-out-the-vote operation.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8QH4R801&show_article=1

I love that quote form Romney to lower expectations: "we're not trying to overshoot dramatically"(!!)

Here's the report of Paul outdrawing all the other GOP candidates combined!

According to eyewitnesses, the Ron Paul tax rally taking place next door to the Iowa Tax Forum - and competing with it - actually outdrew the official forum and its many GOP candidates.

GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul (R-Tex) had not been invited to the forum, according to sponsors because he was not a serious candidate with a serious, successful campaign, or an organization in Iowa.

Two reports - from the Des Moines Register and Iowapolitics.com - put Ron Paul’s rally numbers around 600-800. But eyewitness attending the rally put the numbers at 1000-1200, or 200-600 more than the formal GOP forum.

Ron Paul's campaign, in a press release posted at www.RonPaul.com on July 1, put the number at 1,000.

http://blog.ronpaul2008.com/ron_paul_2008/2007/07/ron-paul-speaks.html

These latter numbers are seemingly confirmed by eyewitnesses and attendees of the rally. According to these reports, the Ron Paul rally had 1,000 seats to fill, and all of them were filled – plus other onlookers were standing on the sidelines, up to 200 of them. The numbers thus begin to tell the tale of a rally that outdrew the “official rally” by either 200 attendees at the low end, or actually doubled the turnout of the official forum at the high end. Additionally, the Ron Paul affair was reportedly “raucous” and high energy compared to the lower-key official forum.

http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=44956&fb=1

A blogger, Patrick Ruffini, predicted Paul would come in second at Ames on July 18. But that was so last week, before Romney announced he would lower his investment and everyone's expectations. Now Paul has the chance to exceed a close second and win. Romney had to lower expectations for if he tried to win and Paul beat him it would be far worse!

Ron Paul Will Place Second at Ames
by Patrick Ruffini :: July 18th, 2007 1:26 am

You heard it here first.

He leads the second tier in cash-on-hand. He was able to get 1,200 people out to the Hy-Vee (has any candidate done something that big on their own, not at an RPI event?). His home base in Texas isn’t that far of a drive, and his people are motivated enough to come in from out of state for him. And he’s making a big push on his Web site, which for all intents and purposes, is his campaign.

Romney, given his dominant position organizationally in Iowa, should still win. Even with the rest of the top tier not participating, he won’t be able to let his guard down, lest he be ambushed by one of the second tier. Should Romney underperform against someone not even playing at Ames, or against someone not taken seriously, that’s a blow to his Iowa inevitability.

Does Paul placing a close second make the straw poll and its winner into a laughingstock?
http://www.patrickruffini.com/2007/07/18/ron-paul-will-place-second-at-ames/

This is going to be HILARIOUS!

What do you think Ron Paul's chances of winning Ames are? Romney is CLEARLY lowering expectations that he may not win now!!

[The Count]

1. We knew Romney had "freeped" the first one (C_PaC-er report)

So, the results will be different this time - probably in favor of Fred Thompson -if he's in the race (is he?)

[dkofos]

2. If Iowa repubes want an honest candidate he is the only one that

fits the bill.

[Bluebear]

5. And unfortunately, racist. nt

[dkofos]

8. OK an honest libertarian racist.

[in_cog_ni_to]

14. The man's a PIG. A racist PIG! I don't doubt for one second that is someone the repukes would elect

as their nominee though.:( He's just their type.

jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jun-07-07 11:18 AM
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The wisdom of Ron Paul

“If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably-fleet-footed they can be.” (Victoria Advocate, 5/24/96)

“Politically sensible blacks are outnumbered as decent people... Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.” (Victoria Advocate, 5/24/96)

"We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such." (Victoria Advocate, 5/24/96)

“Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action.” (Victoria Advocate, 5/24/96)

“The Criminals who terrorize our cities - in riots and on every non-riot day - are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are.” (Victoria Advocate, 8/7/96)

“There is no such thing as a hate crime.” (Ron Paul: Political Action Report, 1/15/92)

A “free market provides for the poor...” (MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour, 10/24/88 on why he is against government assistance)

"Is bailing out people that chose to live on the coastline a proper function of the federal government?” he asks. “Why do people in Arizona have to be robbed in order to support the people on the coast?" (Washington Post, 7/9/06) (Paul voted against assistance to Katrina and Rita victims, even though some of his district is on the Texas coast.)

“I am opposed to any form of government health insurance as I am opposed to the taxes, regulations, licensing requirements, and monopolistic practices, which keep health costs higher than their true market value.” (CNN Presidential Questionnaire, 1988)

As for Social Security, "we didn't have it until 1935," Paul says. "I mean, do you read stories about how many people were laying in the streets and dying and didn't have medical treatment? …Prices were low and the country was productive and families took care of themselves and churches built hospitals and there was no starvation." (Washington Post, 7/9/06)

“Something must be done to phase out the government’s involvement in Social Security. Pension and annuity plans should be the concern of the people, not the government. Political control of these things will lead only to bankruptcy and misery for retired persons.” (CNN Presidential Questionnaire, 1988M)

“Immigrants can spread diseases for which we may have no immunity. There is also the question of crime and culture. Many immigrants come from countries with different legal structures and are not willing to behave in the way we expect American citizens to behave.” (Ron Paul Political Report, 3/15/92)

"The right of secession should be ingrained in a free society. There is nothing sacred about large units of government. And there is nothing wrong with loosely banding together small units of government. With the disintegration of the Soviet Union, we too should consider it." From his newsletter in the early to mid 90s--sorry I don't have an exact date.

:+ Build up your candidate, don't tear down someone else's.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1061584

[Joe Bacon]

3. Straw polls are meaningless.

I still remember back in 1983 when Alan Cranston won every straw poll for the 1984 Democratic nomination. Does anyone remember how many primaries or caucuses he won??????????????

[Dems Will Win]

9. Yes but having an anti-war candfidate win a GOP straw poll

is really something extraordinary!

[saltpoint]

4. It would be lots of fun to see Ron Paul upend Multiple-Choice Mitt in

the Iowa straw poll.

I think Sam Brownback stands a reasonably good chance of ending Mike Huckabee's charge at the nomination in Ames. I think it would be even better if neither one of them received even one vote.

Romney's said to have a dandy organization, though, and I expect he'll place first.

The more inconclusive and scrambled and volatile the GOP nomination is, the stronger we'll be once nominees are chosen.

[proud2BlibKansan]

6. We can only hope

I am really enjoying watching the GOP disintegrate. Ron Paul has a huge network of support but there is no way he will get the party nomination. That would mean the GOP would have to oppose the war. And we all know that is not at all likely.

Can you imagine a GOP convention where Ron Paul emerges as the best vote getter?? OMG, that would be a dream.

[Nimrod2005]

7. That would be really cool.........nt

[sellitman]

10. He is the least horrible of all the Repukes

Which still makes him horrible.

[The Count]

11. Sanity is overrated - one Ron Paul supporter told me

Somehow this batshit crazy little man became very cool on the internets - the Nader of the 2008.

[in_cog_ni_to]

13. Not really:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1061584


jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jun-07-07 11:18 AM
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The wisdom of Ron Paul

“If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably-fleet-footed they can be.” (Victoria Advocate, 5/24/96)

“Politically sensible blacks are outnumbered as decent people... Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.” (Victoria Advocate, 5/24/96)

"We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such." (Victoria Advocate, 5/24/96)

“Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action.” (Victoria Advocate, 5/24/96)

“The Criminals who terrorize our cities - in riots and on every non-riot day - are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are.” (Victoria Advocate, 8/7/96)

“There is no such thing as a hate crime.” (Ron Paul: Political Action Report, 1/15/92)

A “free market provides for the poor...” (MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour, 10/24/88 on why he is against government assistance)

"Is bailing out people that chose to live on the coastline a proper function of the federal government?” he asks. “Why do people in Arizona have to be robbed in order to support the people on the coast?" (Washington Post, 7/9/06) (Paul voted against assistance to Katrina and Rita victims, even though some of his district is on the Texas coast.)

“I am opposed to any form of government health insurance as I am opposed to the taxes, regulations, licensing requirements, and monopolistic practices, which keep health costs higher than their true market value.” (CNN Presidential Questionnaire, 1988)

As for Social Security, "we didn't have it until 1935," Paul says. "I mean, do you read stories about how many people were laying in the streets and dying and didn't have medical treatment? …Prices were low and the country was productive and families took care of themselves and churches built hospitals and there was no starvation." (Washington Post, 7/9/06)

“Something must be done to phase out the government’s involvement in Social Security. Pension and annuity plans should be the concern of the people, not the government. Political control of these things will lead only to bankruptcy and misery for retired persons.” (CNN Presidential Questionnaire, 1988M)

“Immigrants can spread diseases for which we may have no immunity. There is also the question of crime and culture. Many immigrants come from countries with different legal structures and are not willing to behave in the way we expect American citizens to behave.” (Ron Paul Political Report, 3/15/92)

"The right of secession should be ingrained in a free society. There is nothing sacred about large units of government. And there is nothing wrong with loosely banding together small units of government. With the disintegration of the Soviet Union, we too should consider it." From his newsletter in the early to mid 90s--sorry I don't have an exact date.

:+ Build up your candidate, don't tear down someone else's.

[MalloyLiberal]

15. Still better than the Repukes

Even if he's racist.

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. Better than the repukes? Even if he is a racist? THEY ARE ALL RACIST, BIGOTED PIGS. He's just more

BLATANT with his feelings. NONE of them should ever be in charge of this country with views like that. That includes RON PAUL.

[MalloyLiberal]

17. If we only had the choice of Republicans

Well if the election is rigged I'd rather it be Paul than some of the others.

[in_cog_ni_to]

12. jobycom..."The wisdom of Ron Paul" The man is a bigot. He'll probably win the repuke nomination.

jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jun-07-07 11:18 AM
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The wisdom of Ron Paul

“If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably-fleet-footed they can be.” (Victoria Advocate, 5/24/96)

“Politically sensible blacks are outnumbered as decent people... Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.” (Victoria Advocate, 5/24/96)

"We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such." (Victoria Advocate, 5/24/96)

“Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action.” (Victoria Advocate, 5/24/96)

“The Criminals who terrorize our cities - in riots and on every non-riot day - are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are.” (Victoria Advocate, 8/7/96)

“There is no such thing as a hate crime.” (Ron Paul: Political Action Report, 1/15/92)

A “free market provides for the poor...” (MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour, 10/24/88 on why he is against government assistance)

"Is bailing out people that chose to live on the coastline a proper function of the federal government?” he asks. “Why do people in Arizona have to be robbed in order to support the people on the coast?" (Washington Post, 7/9/06) (Paul voted against assistance to Katrina and Rita victims, even though some of his district is on the Texas coast.)

“I am opposed to any form of government health insurance as I am opposed to the taxes, regulations, licensing requirements, and monopolistic practices, which keep health costs higher than their true market value.” (CNN Presidential Questionnaire, 1988)

As for Social Security, "we didn't have it until 1935," Paul says. "I mean, do you read stories about how many people were laying in the streets and dying and didn't have medical treatment? …Prices were low and the country was productive and families took care of themselves and churches built hospitals and there was no starvation." (Washington Post, 7/9/06)

“Something must be done to phase out the government’s involvement in Social Security. Pension and annuity plans should be the concern of the people, not the government. Political control of these things will lead only to bankruptcy and misery for retired persons.” (CNN Presidential Questionnaire, 1988M)

“Immigrants can spread diseases for which we may have no immunity. There is also the question of crime and culture. Many immigrants come from countries with different legal structures and are not willing to behave in the way we expect American citizens to behave.” (Ron Paul Political Report, 3/15/92)

"The right of secession should be ingrained in a free society. There is nothing sacred about large units of government. And there is nothing wrong with loosely banding together small units of government. With the disintegration of the Soviet Union, we too should consider it." From his newsletter in the early to mid 90s--sorry I don't have an exact date.

:+ Build up your candidate, don't tear down someone else's.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1061584