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Sun Jul-22-07 11:46 AM
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Poll question: Would you choose Russ Feingold if he enters the race? |
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If the good Senator from WI decided to enter the race, would you support him over the group of Democrats running?
I saw him on MTP this morning, he was GREAT! and I just received this from him...
On 'Meet the Press' this morning, I announced that I will introduce two censure resolutions aimed at holding President Bush, Vice President Cheney, and other administration officials responsible for the destructive path down which they've taken our country. It's clear to me, and millions of Americans, that the time has come for accountability – on everything from the disastrous war in Iraq, to refusing, time and time again, to follow the rule of law. Members of Congress can no longer stand by and allow the White House to shred the Constitution, and thumb their noses at the American people.
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Sun Jul-22-07 11:52 AM
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1. No, I am not impressed by his Censure Bush proposal |
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Edited on Sun Jul-22-07 11:53 AM by MissWaverly
the only way that Bush and Cheney can be dealt with effectively is to impeach. If they keep the current course, the president will become the sole effective member of government with no oversight by the legislative branch and the judicial branch. I am beginning to believe there will not even be a judicial branch but a kangaroo court. There is serious damage being done to this country every day, I am losing patience with those who are enabling Bush and Cheney to continue to hurt this country.
Even David Brooks says that censure is a meaningless gesture, and even he is not known for his critical analysis.
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Sun Jul-22-07 12:00 PM
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8. The Senate cannot initiate impeachment proceedings, only the house |
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He is making a very strong statement that MOST of the other members are afraid to make
We are screwed in a big way, they are counting on winning by default in 2008. Doesn't that just make you proud, NOT
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Sun Jul-22-07 12:07 PM
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9. He could make a louder statement by announcing his |
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support of impeachment, and that he was meeting with his congressional counterparts to get them onboard. Censure is meaningless theatre, I wouldn't mind but this has not been business as usual these last 6 years. Serious things are wrong and the dems need to do their congressional duties instead of just "what is the most effective strategy to fire up the base and get them esp. (those internet) bloggers to empty their piggy banks into the 2008 campaigns."
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Sun Jul-22-07 12:29 PM
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14. Censure? Too little, too late. |
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I received an email from Feingold today, asking how I feel about censure, Basically, my response was that I don't want these criminals getting a slap on the wrist. The only thing I want on their wrists are handcuffs.
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Sun Jul-22-07 02:58 PM
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44. Feingold has been pushing on this for years |
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One man is capable of bringing it up but not passing it. When are the rest of the government going to show similar courage. Most of them are years behind Feingold. He was almost the only voice against the patriot act - because as he said he actually read it. I like literacy in my representatives.
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Sun Jul-22-07 06:38 PM
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57. Good for you, please keep up the pressure |
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censure will not work, even if they had the votes, it means nothing.
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Sun Jul-22-07 11:53 AM
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2. Feingold would strengthen an already-terrific Democratic field. |
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The Republicans are strapped with people who are corrupt, idiotic, dangerous, unstable, unelectable, and undesirable.
I'm not sure how Feingold feels about the presidency, but he'd make an excellent chief executive, IMO.
As jammed as the primary race might potentially be, I could see him jumping in, despite earlier comments about serving in the Senate instead.
I talk with folks from time to time who are drawn to the idea of a Gore-Feingold ticket.
If Feingold chooses not to run for president, let's put him in charge of the Department of Justice. Sure would be a gigantic change from the monster who's in charge of it right now.
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Sun Jul-22-07 01:52 PM
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I would supprt that ticket without hesitation. Gore/Edwards too. ;)
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Sun Jul-22-07 02:37 PM
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32. Hey ya there, Swamp Rat. |
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Good to see you around this afternoon, as it always is for that matter.
Hope all's well your way.
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Sun Jul-22-07 11:53 AM
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Sun Jul-22-07 11:54 AM
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4. For anyone else, removing their name from consideration |
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would preclude them if they reconsidered. But Russ Feingold is special. I would switch for Russ.
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Sun Jul-22-07 11:55 AM
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5. I'd vote for Feingold in a heartbeat |
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He has more guts and integrity than any other candidate in the field, by far.
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Sun Jul-22-07 11:57 AM
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6. No. Not a real leader. |
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Sun Jul-22-07 12:18 PM
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10. That's the most 'off the mark' statement I've ever seen at DU |
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Edited on Sun Jul-22-07 12:20 PM by undeterred
and that is saying a lot.
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Sun Jul-22-07 12:45 PM
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15. But it's my statement, and I'm sticking by it! |
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Sun Jul-22-07 12:46 PM
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Sun Jul-22-07 12:20 PM
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11. so who IS a *real* leader? n/t |
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Sun Jul-22-07 11:59 AM
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7. Sure, why not? Nobody else excites me. |
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Sun Jul-22-07 12:25 PM
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12. He already made a statement saying he would NOT run. |
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Sun Jul-22-07 12:27 PM
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13. Yeah, that was disappointing. n/t |
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Sun Jul-22-07 02:05 PM
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29. He can raise good grassroots support |
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but not the millions he'd need to run for president. So far Obama is the only one who seems to be able to do that. But Feingold is still in his early fifties so don't count him out of future runs. He is becoming more and more visible.
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Sun Jul-22-07 02:15 PM
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31. We really need to figure out a way to get big money out of our elections. |
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How many talented candidates do we lose that way? We wind up with a small pool of connected elites -- hardly the democracy we strive for. :(
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Sun Jul-22-07 02:39 PM
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34. Unless the Obama thing is a trend |
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I've never given money to candidates in my life until 2004. I don't know if I was ever asked. Now that things are more internet centered - its possible that more people will get involved in contributing. And if giving involves everyone- even if its just $50 a campaign cycle but everyone is doing it= that could make a big difference.
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Sun Jul-22-07 03:05 PM
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46. I agree -- up to a point. The net has made activism so much more |
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accessible.
But I think back to the days when my husband and I counted every cent to try to make it through the week. There's no way we could have given a nickel to any candidate during those days, no matter how much we'd have wished to do that. Hell, if I was careful, he could buy a pint on Saturday, no kidding.
We have to get publicly funded elections, or our "democracy" isn't really a democracy but a fire sale.
When I was a kid, the campaign news didn't center on how many millions X candidate had raised but instead, it was about what that runner said. :shrug:
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Sun Jul-22-07 03:15 PM
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47. I agree. But up till now the Republicans have been against it. |
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At heart, I believe Republicans are stingy people who resent giving $20 or $50 to a candidate. They like having the corporations buy candidates. Small business owners fancy themselves to be little corporations.
At heart, I believe Democrats are more generous, even if they can only give a little. So I think Obama's campaign is going to change their minds. Repukes have no one with the kind of charisma that makes a crowd full of ordinary people pull out their wallets or checkbooks. He is getting more money than the Republican candidates- and if he wins the nomination, watch out. (I'm for Edwards, but I can see the Obama has something people really like.) If Republicans raise less money they may change their minds.
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Sun Jul-22-07 03:20 PM
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49. Yes! Republicans are all about letting someone else do the work. |
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Edited on Sun Jul-22-07 03:20 PM by sfexpat2000
Boy, is that right!
Well, we have to work with what we have this cycle, and I'm glad Senator Obama is doing so well, truly. I'm more of a DK fan, but recognize that Obama is a very attractive candidate.
We're fortunate to have such deep field of attractive runners. The Thugs have no one. :toast:
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Sun Jul-22-07 03:34 PM
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52. I've never let myself get too excited about anyone |
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before the primaries because it seemed like we had no control. They picked Kerry, and I decided to like him. I really like Edwards, but no matter who it is, even Hillary, this is going to be a good year.
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Sun Jul-22-07 12:47 PM
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17. No. Due to his statements concerning impeachment. |
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Sun Jul-22-07 12:51 PM
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Even if you're not from WI. He sent out an email today asking for feedack on his censure proposals and explaining why censure and not impeachment.
My feedback: IMPEACH and BRING THE TROOPS HOME. I DON'T GIVE A DAMN IF NOTHING ELSE GETS DONE.
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Sun Jul-22-07 01:10 PM
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20. No, the jack ass won't get my vote |
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Sun Jul-22-07 01:25 PM
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22. He's not a jackass or a coward. He's a real representative |
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and he is asking for feedback. Email him. He doesn't want this to be seen as coming from him, but from the people of the United States. Be one of those people, even if you're not from his state.
He is my senator and he's the most responsive representative I've ever seen.
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Sun Jul-22-07 01:54 PM
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27. I wish he was MY senator. |
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:patriot: I'd be happy to trade you David Vitter for Russ Feingold. :D
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Sun Jul-22-07 02:39 PM
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33. I'm picturing myself approaching Senator Feingold and saying, |
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"Hey, jackass. You're a fucking coward."
Very frankly I don't think you've read Senator Feingold's positions over the years of his representation very well.
In fact I think you've missed the red side of a green battleship.
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Sun Jul-22-07 02:52 PM
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40. He won't push for impeachment |
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They must have pictures of him in a diaper
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Sun Jul-22-07 02:55 PM
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42. You're too dismissive to be taken too seriously. |
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Your attack on Feingold is as scurrilous as it is baseless.
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Sun Jul-22-07 04:12 PM
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56. I wouldn't support Feingold if I were you |
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After all Feingold attacked Edwards recently and is supporting Obama's stance on the war.
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Sun Jul-22-07 02:55 PM
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43. Feingolds one of the most independent and progressive senators out there |
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He has more courage than almost any of them when it comes to standing up to anyone and everyone.
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Sun Jul-22-07 01:15 PM
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21. Russ needs some VEEP time first ... |
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... just to grow a little further into the international aspects of the Presidential role.
In 2016, he's in (if the country's still standing) ...
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Sun Jul-22-07 01:48 PM
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23. At least Finegold is attempting some action in holding these criminals accountable... |
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Edited on Sun Jul-22-07 01:49 PM by Blue Belle
Remind me what Hillary, Obama, and Biden are doing about that again? Playing it safe and making symbolic votes? Talking a lot of tough rhetoric, but refusing to lead a charge? Please...
At least Finegold is trying to gage the pulse of his constituents by asking for feedback. When was the last time your Senator did that?
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Sun Jul-22-07 01:51 PM
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24. I wouldn't support him over my favorite candidate |
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but I would support him over all the others.
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Sun Jul-22-07 01:54 PM
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26. Clark, Feingold, and Gore were always my top three choices |
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It is frustrating, to say the least, that none of them are current declared candidates. I believe in wishful thinking, but I also have a pragmatic streak. Of the three, Wes Clark is the one who has shown the most interest in running. He still says that he "thinks about it every day". I am becoming more discouraged about Gore, he is begining to convince me that he will not run in the primaries at the very least, and the odds of a brokered convention are remote.
For those who are not satisfied with the current progressive choices for one or more reasons, now might be a good time to find some way to encourage Wes Clark to enter the race. I have seen no indication from Russ Feingold that he is even open to considering it at this point.
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I could have written this verbatim.
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Clark, Feingold and Gore are all excellent choices, and I hope at least two of them are on the 2008 ticket.
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Sun Jul-22-07 02:53 PM
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41. My favorite three choices as well....nt |
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Sun Jul-22-07 02:10 PM
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30. Was hoping "Hell YES" would be a choice. |
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I wish he'd run, he's far more impressive than the current lot.
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Sun Jul-22-07 02:41 PM
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I have been for Russ since Jan 06. Even started a site in Iowa for him and helped a Draft Russ site get going, so heck yeah I would support him. http://iowafeingold.blogspot.com/
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Sun Jul-22-07 02:44 PM
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36. I still remember when he said he wouldn't be running and it hurt, but its too late for him now. |
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Even if he got into the race at this time I wouldn't support him. (aside from saying he is a great person)
If he changes his mind next time around I would even go work for him.
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Sun Jul-22-07 02:46 PM
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37. I don't have a current candidate. |
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But I would if Russ joined the race.
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Sun Jul-22-07 02:59 PM
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45. He already released a statement last November |
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Edited on Sun Jul-22-07 02:59 PM by LWolf
saying that he won't run, so this poll is irrelevant. That said, if he changed his mind, he would probably beat out the "top tier," making him a viable 2nd choice. Edited to add link: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/12/politics/main2174558.shtml
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Sun Jul-22-07 03:18 PM
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48. What's his stand and action plan on poverty? |
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I don't remember him mentioning it.
I vote my own best interests.
If a candidate doesn't see poor people as important, I don't see the candidate as important.
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Sun Jul-22-07 03:21 PM
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50. Yep -- Over Edwards, Obama or Gore |
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And definitely, definitely, definitely over Hillary! Waaaaaaaaay over her! x(
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Sun Jul-22-07 03:27 PM
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51. Want to see how Feingold's voting record aligns with your own views? |
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Sun Jul-22-07 03:38 PM
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53. He seems to me like that guy in jr high that I liked, a few yards away. |
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Sun Jul-22-07 03:53 PM
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54. Hey! Feingold's available, I'm pretty sure. |
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Maybe he'd be open to a meetin'.
As us boys go, Russell's strictly top-drawer, no kiddin'.
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Sun Jul-22-07 03:56 PM
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Right now of those who have declared, I will be voting for DK.
However, I am hoping Gore enters. If Gore enters, he will be my No. 1 choice even over Feingold.
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Sun Jul-22-07 10:05 PM
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58. hes not running and i dont think he would accept vp |
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because he wants to focus on the senate but yes i would support him
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