Would Bush order our military to kill Americans to stay in power past the end of his term?

[NNN0LHI]

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7§ion=0&article=98798&d=22&m=7&y=2007

A military tribunal at Camp Pendelton, released Cpl. Trent Thomas this week without ordering him to prison, despite his conviction in the murder of an Iraqi civilian last year in Hamdaniya, Iraq.

Thomas is typical of most American soldiers charged with murdering Iraqi civilians.

In Thomas’ case, the civilian was kidnapped and murdered in cold blood.

There are even many who believe that there are far more cases of Iraqi civilians who are murdered by American soldiers, but that those cases are hushed up to minimize the embarrassment.

I mean, let’s face it. American Marines allegedly came to Iraq to topple the government of Saddam Hussein that was involved in the murder of Iraqi civilians.

How would it look if it turned out that more Iraqi civilians might be murdered at the hands of their so-called liberators than killed at the hands of the so-called dictator, Saddam Hussein?

[ThomWV]

1. I Have no doubt that there are persons in our military who would kill us for him

No doubt what so ever.

[baldguy]

3. And I have no doubt that there are people in our military who would kill him for us.

Don't sell the military short.

[WinkyDink]

54. Indeed, if they all think like Sara Taylor: "I have taken an oath to uphold THE PRESIDENT."

[cherokeeprogressive]

64. I have no doubt that the number of guns in this country makes them think twice. n/t

[Rosemary2205]

2. If he did they would just laugh their asses off.

Murdering "Eye-raqees" and murdering "Amerikuns" is a whole different thing. There's not one chance in hell the Generals would accept military action within the US to keep that idiot "Dicktater".

[HereSince1628]

4. I believe Cheney would faster than a defibrillator shock.

Before we get into accusations of tin-foillery, we should consider the past 6.5 years and as what really would give anyone confidence that the Cheney Administration will willingly step aside to facilitate a peaceful transfer of power?

[USMC_Liberal]

5. Survey for Marines: Would you shoot citizens?

I remember hearing maybe 10 or 15 years ago about a survey passed around Marines at Camp Pendleton asking whether or not they would fire on protesting citizens. I thought at the time, "this is complete crap. Of course not."

I don't recall who sponsored this survey. It migh have been anonymous. But based on what has been happening it's all pretty damn scary.

What if one reason to keep a large ground component in contact with the Insurgency in Iraq was to desensitize Marines and soldiers into firing on US citizens?

I don't think they would do it. But that wouldn't stop the Rovian logic of trying to do it.

Walt

[warren pease]

9. Do you know the results of the survey? n/t

[USMC_Liberal]

10. Results of the Survey

Seems like I just heard about the survey itself, not the results.

I didn't pay it any mind at the time. Too far fetched.

Of course I never thought our president would piss on the Constitution and the Flag, either.

Or that so many people would fail to give a rat's ass.

Walt

[EFerrari]

16. Welcome to DU, USMC_Liberal

:)

[flyarm]

39. if i remember correctly..the report said our military would not shoot to kill americans..

and again if i remember correctly it said outside forces would be needed..that is when i got very very concerned about Blackwater..and the watering down of our military with foriegners..

because it said..not quoting ..that foreigners would shoot Americans ..and our own would not..

and then i remember thinking of this report when katrina happened and blackwater was brought in..

i felt sick..

and then i also remember when that one general was made to resign over a supposed affair when he was separated and getting divorced ..but it was because the military was dumbing down the requirements for even speaking english..i thought..sheeeeeeeeeeeeet..they are bringing in more and more foreigners into our military..for the reasons this report said..

but i can not find that report in my files..

i do remember posting that report though at the time it was out..over and over again all over the internet..

''fly

[WinkyDink]

55. Really? Can you say "KENT STATE"?

[cherokeeprogressive]

66. So. National Guardsmen killing four college students is sufficient to get the American Public

to accept martial law and the establishment of a dicktatorship?

I think not.

[Ghost in the Machine]

15. I hope they all think the way you do. But sadly, I don't think they do.

I believe part of the 23% are in the military. These gung-ho G.I. Joes that join up just because they "wanna go kill someone"... and before anyone jumps me for that.. those are the exact words I used the first time I spoke to a recruiter... during the Iranian Hostage Crisis, a few weeks before my 18th birthday. The Army recruiter shook his head and said "you want to go next door and talk to the Marines"...

[Dan]

24. You should not worry

about the individual soldiers. The question is : What would the Generals do....that is the question.

I suspect that if things got as bad as you think - then we would not know what would be taking place behind the scenes.

The military would act in 'what they perceive' is the best interest of the Nation, not the president, most especially this president. Bush is lucky that our military accepts 'civilian control', otherwise if we had the history of some Latin American or other countries, he would be pissing his pants with fear.

Nope, I suspect that military has had their fill of Bush and his gang, and they will not be staying in power past January 09, assuming all things else remain the same.

[Ghost in the Machine]

28. I like your outlook on the situation. Hopefully rational heads will prevail

with the top brass.

[shadowknows69]

41. I had one soldier tell me that if he tried to stay

That the military wouldn't have it. "Someone will take him out" was the exact quote I believe.

[tblue37]

26. Don't forget, a significant part of the armed force in Iraq

consists of mercenaries like those working for Blackwater. I believe these private armies will fire on anyone they are paid to fire on.

I also believe that many servicemen would fire on those they believe to be "unpatriotic." Don't forget the way the members of the antiwar movement were often attacked by cops, crowds of hardhats, and National Guardsmen. Kent State is just the one we remember most.

Do you honestly believe soldiers who were raised in the sort of family that considers liberals and antiwar, pro-choice folks to be goddless baby-murdering traitors would hesitate to kill a few for their hero Bush?

[tblue37]

45. Oh, and BTW--don't forget how willingly the cops have assisted the

BushCo administration in penning up dissenters, removing them from public venues, even arresting them, etc. Think of the way the cops brutalized people in the park in L.A. during a recent demonstration--not just the protesters, though that was certainly bad enough, but even those who were merely in the park because it was a nice day on the weekend.

There are enough power-tripping authoritarian followers to do the dirty work if these a**holes decide to attack us.

[ldf]

30. now THAT would get our soldiers home...

if they needed to be used against american citizens...

:shrug:

[flyarm]

35. wow i used to have that report and i have been looking for it for a long time now

and can't find it..

it was an inside military report if i remember correctly

if anyone has it can you post it please??

thx..

fly

[Ghost in the Machine]

6. Absolutely no doubt whatsoever that he would order it, and no doubt that

some troops would carry out those orders... and it sickens me to think that we even have to discuss the very real possibilities of this scenario coming to life.

[warren pease]

7. Here's what history suggests, and what I think...

From my journal:


http://journals.democraticunderground.com/warren%20pease/65


And then there's Kent State.



wp

[malaise]

36. Bingo n/t

[USMC_Liberal]

8. The military oath is to the Constitution.

The oath is to the Constiution, not the president. I think that when push came to shove, most of the officers would go that way. I think the enlisted would too. In fact, I'd give the nod for most loyal (a greater percentage) to the troops.

Walt

[dkofos]

17. The reichwing takes a special oath to king george

[BrotherBuzz]

37. This dumb draftee enlisted man was required to support both the Constitution and the President

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.".

Officers had more leeway as their Oath thingy only involved the Constitution:

"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God."

[USMC_Liberal]

52. The Oath

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.".


I took the enlisted oath and the commissioned oath, and I don't recall either mentioning the president.

We -did- have some discussion groups as lieutenants in 1982 revolving around the morality of war and the nature of lawful orders.

I still very strongly remember the 6 reasons one can apply deadly force:

1. In self defense.

2. In defense of government property vital to national security (nuclear weapons).

3. In defense of government property not vital to national security but inherently dangerous to others (magazines and armories).

4. To prevent serious crimes against others such as rape, murder or arson.

5. In connection with aprehension of a suspect involved in the above crimes - if they were apprehended and tried to flee. (meaning you COULD NOT apply deadly force to someone who you aprehended for stealing a car for instance).

6. Based on a lawful order of a superior officer.

And -every- Marine is responsible for ensuring that any order that is obeyed is a lawful order. Obeying an unlawful order is no defense under our system.

We talked about that; we knew that.

Walt

[USMC_Liberal]

59. Definition of Deadly Force

The definition of deadly force simply put, is "the loading and firing of weapons."

At my first duty station the detachment gunnery sergeant asked me (practically the first thing he said to me), "What is deadly force?"

We had actually learned a by rote definition:

"Deadly force is the force which a person applies which he knows, or should reasonably know, creates a substantial risk of causing death or serious bodily harm."

And the Gunny said, "What are you talking about? Deadly force is the loading and firing of weapons."

We as Marines we were taught:

No warning shots are fired.

Aim center mass. No special attempt to wound vice kill will be made.

Either the target has committed an offense that liables him to deadly force or he has not. If he dies, that is his problem.

Walt

[BrotherBuzz]

69. To further muddy the water, National Guardsmen also have an allegiance to their Governor

Who trumps whom when a conflict of orders arises? Imagine Governors ordering their men to return home while the CIC is ordering them to be redeployed to the Middle East for the third or fourth time?

The National Guard (Army or Air) Oath of Enlistment

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the State of (STATE NAME) against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the Governor of (STATE NAME) and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to law and regulations. So help me God.

Conceivably, an enlisted man could receive two legal, but conflicting orders from two different bodies. I'm sure this situation is covered extensively in the UCMJ, but if pandemonium breaks out, all bets are off (at least that's how this busted down old draftee cold war veteran views things).

[JanusAscending]

11. Remember KATRINA !!!

How many of you recall the troops driving around in trucks with their weapons aimed at CITIZENS of NOLA , until that brave Cajun Officer ordered them to "LOWER YOUR WEAPONS"!!!! Gives one pause to wonder, does it not?????

[Sherman A1]

21. Precisely

That was my very first thought. Until General Honoree was barking orders like a Drill Sergeant, those guys were more than ready to use force against the citizenry.

[Mrs. Overall]

40. The media referred to NOLA citizens who were demanding water and medical attention

as "INSURGENTS."

I can't believe that there wasn't more outrage about reporters using that term.

[havocmom]

12. Two words in response to question: Pat Tillman

They needed a propaganda poster-boy and the handsome, dashing Tillman, who gave up a lucrative career to go fight filled the bill.

No doubt in my mind he was abused then used.

No doubt in my mind the cheney/bush junta would do ANYTHING to ANYBODY to gain an inch or a buck.

[Tansy_Gold]

19. I can answer that question in one word: Blackwater

The U.S. "military" is no longer what it used to be. The private armies like Blackwater -- and I don't think it's the only one -- owe no allegiance to "The Constitution."

I think one of the problems facing the liberal/left segment of the population is that we have resisted the neo-cons' fearmongering so well that we have forgotten there are things to be genuinely afraid of: the neo-cons themselves, and their agenda. People tend not to act until they feel threatened, and the neo-cons have kept their minions suitably terrified. On the other side, we've been far too complacent, and far too reluctant to ramp up the fear level. Some things should be feared: dictatorships, secrecy in government, legalized torture, warrantless wiretaps, etc., etc., etc.


Tansy Gold, rationally afraid, not irrationally terrified

[Pachamama]

25. I agree 100% with you Tansy....Blackwater and a demoralized and abused Nat'l Guard that has been

desensitized in Iraq on 2nd, 3rd deployments and who when eventually on US Soil (and now that Bushler has essentially eliminated the Posse Comitatus act with last years Defense Bill) that he could call upon both Nat'l Guard (over the wishes of a Governor) and also Blackwater Mercenaries.

I'm rationally afraid and its not a good feeling....

[havocmom]

61. Rationally afraid, not irrationally terrified is the sensible state.

And I have always found Tansy Gold to have a very keen mind.

[dkofos]

13. YES, WITH A GLEEFUL SMIRK ON HIS FACE

[glitch]

77. and no longer restraining his giggles in public. hehehehe nt

[butterfly77]

14. Yes.

[EFerrari]

18. I'm torn. Junior has already used the military against civilians

(NOLA, remember?) but imho, he can't wait to get out of there because bilking the treasury is hard work. Cheney, sure, in a heartbeat.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

20. And could local police be "federalized" under programs like the ones in Florida and Alabama?

Apparently, those states have joined a program to "federalize" the police for purposes of illegal immigrant crackdowns, and the program is being considered in several other states. If chaos erupts when Bush refuses to leave office, will he try to federalize all police in the country where Republican governors are in power? I don't doubt for a minute that some police officers would love to get in some target practice on civilians at check-points, the way some soldiers do in Iraq.

[defendandprotect]

22. Let's not scare OURSELVES to death -- the question is what are we doing . . .

to prevent the situation from worsening -- ????

Let's not sit around scaring OURSELVES to death --
Is that where Bush/Cheney "the terrorists are coming, the terrorists are coming, the terrorists are coming -- !!!" has led us -- ????

We have to be knowledgeable about what's happening -- but we have to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

23. Who the hell is scared? I'm not trying to scare anyone. I just know how bad it is

when the police join in with the usurper. It happened all over Europe when the Nazis took over and set up puppet governments. The police very easily and all too willingly fell into step with their marching orders to control the population. Too easy in fact. That's why I don't trust the police as a body.

Maybe you're the one that's scared here. Or maybe you just don't want certain ideas to be discussed. We're just discussing "what ifs" here, and this is one that I'm sure anyone seizing power would consider (federalizing state and local police). Unless maybe you are 100% sure Bush would not try to seize power. I admit it seems far-fetched at this point, but not completely out of the question.

[Pachamama]

29. Actually, I think you and the above poster are both right: I think we need to take a good look at

what is happening, think about the what ifs (using common sense and facts about situations historical and possible) and we also at the same time need to think about what we can do to prepare for it and prevent it if possible.

I see your in Huntington Beach...I'm right now in your neck of the woods sitting poolside as the kids blissfully jump around in the water before we take off for another day at Disneyland.

PS: My Grandparents escaped Nazi Germany in early 1939, about two months after KristallNacht in Munich Germany. They are unfortunately dead now (of old age) but I used to talk to them endlessly about why, when and how they knew when to leave and its fascinating and scary at the same time. They used to tell me that unless people pay attention to history and lessons learned, that history repeats itself, everytime.

Meanwhile, I sit here trying to enjoy the Summer of 1938....and thinking about what I need to know and do....

:hi:

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

32. I'm glad your grandparents could escape Nazi Germany

My point was not to compare a potential coup d'etat by Bush to the situation in World War II. The only point I wanted to make in that regard was just how easily, how very easily, the police in Germany and in the conquered nations fell into step with the authoritarian regime.

[Pachamama]

34. Can I ask you a question: Do you think there are or are not any comparisons to what happened in

Germany?

Seriously, I am wondering because there are so many of those on DU that seem very reluctant to do so out of concern of being labeled something about the comparison. I'm not worried...My family were survivors and they always told me to watch closely. I never thought I'd see what they worried about or experienced and yet the parallels to what we are seeing now are eerie.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

50. Well, I don't think there's been anything quite as bad as the Nazis

The cruelty and low regard for those they considered to be sub-humans and the glee with which they enslaved most of the continent of Europe is something so profound I have trouble comparing it to anything else, except on a very tangential basis. I didn't intend to depart from the original thread to discuss any real comparisons and frankly I don't think I'm capable.

Another reason why I can't make any comparisons is that I don't know enough about the Bush regime. Isn't this what it's really all about, the lack of knowledge concerning the plans and projects of the most secretive administration in American history? If there's a certain amount of hysteria concerning what Bush might or might not do in the future, what crazy whacked-out plans he may have gamed through computer simulations with people in the Pentagon, I feel it's been created by Bush himself. We are at the point where we can't even acquire a single scrap of paper from the Bush regime through a subpoena. This is what's driving the conspiracy theories. We've seen the tip of the iceberg, with executive orders based on vague and undefined notions of the term "violence" whereby infringers could have their assets seized and find themselves in prison. We have the general impression that Bush has been wiretapping ordinary Americans, but we can't get the proof. Americans are wondering what else Bush is hiding. While I feel that the notion of Bush engaging in a coup d'etat is quite far-feteched, I think it's a subject worthy of discussion and, having no knowledge about the Bush regime, I can't rule it out completely. I don't blame Americans and DUers for jumping to these awful conclusions. I blame Bush. He's brought on the hysteria through his total shutdown of the mechanism by which our Congress can oversee what the executive is doing and planning.

[WinkyDink]

58. Let us never forget Prescott Bush, banker to the Nazis, grandfather to Bush.

[Tansy_Gold]

72. The root of both Hitler's Germany and booooosh's USA in terms of the

political "threat" to a resistant populace is, imho, the core belief in both that their people were inherently better than their enemies and that their enemies were essentially non-human; that they had an inherent right to rule and conquer and eliminate their enemies; that anything they did in furtherance of their goals was right, justified, legitimate, and legal.

The union of corporations and government is of course another aspect, and the privatization of the military, especially into a form of military that owes its allegiance not to the state or the people but to the leadership and its personal ideology is yet another. We've seen our "homeland defenses" severely diminished as the national guard is sent off to war; the secondary effect is the diminishing of local police and fire protection -- those lauded "first responders" -- because many of them are also national guard.

Though I am not usually a tinfoilhatter, I can skim on the fringe: the virtual destruction of the extreme right wing militias after the OKC McVeigh bombing opened the doors to outfits like Blackwater and at the same time put informal limitations on the development of anything along the lines of a true citizen militia. Don't misunderstand me: I'm very anti-gun and anti-violence, and I would much prefer that law enforcement and civil defense and all that stuff remain in the hands of loyal and professional government forces (police, fire, military, etc.). And while I'm not in a "the sky is falling, the sky is falling" mood, I do think there are elements of what's happening in the waning days of the semi-legitimate boooosh reign that presage something other than the peaceful, orderly transfer of power on 20 January 2009.

Have I taken steps to flee the way some of my family members fled Germany in the late 1930s? No, not really. But the fact that I've even thought about doing it, and thought about what I'd need to do to accomplish it, is evidence to me that things are not right in this country.

The other side of the same coin, which I don't think has been touched on very much, is what would happen if someone -- China? Russia? -- decided to invade the U.S. Oh, it's as far fetched as anything, and I suppose such a move would result in some form of mutually-assured destruction. But if we are vulnerable to attack from within, are we not also vulnerable, even if less so, to attack from without? :shrug:

Tansy Gold

[leftofthedial]

27. hell yeah.

he's been doing so continually since seizing power.

[qazplm]

31. oh good grief

of course not. Everyone pushing these conspiracy theories need to step up on JAN 20th 2009 and admit they were acting just a little bit loopy with all of this Bush and the military will stage a coup malarkey.

[Richard Steele]

42. Because we've been wrong about everything before now?

:eyes:

[Swamp Rat]

46. I guess you are not paying attention. Here they are killing us in New Orleans:

[AntiFascist]

60. or...pat themselves on the back for taking action...

to prevent the slightest chance of it happening.

[flyarm]

33. sorry to say..i have no doubt he would and will!! eom

[FiveGoodMen]

38. Of course he would. Next question.

[Swamp Rat]

43. He already did. Blackwater in New Orleans. n/t

[salin]

44. a former DUer passed on the following frightening scenario:

with much of the military tied up overseas - the job could be done with the now trained and armed private contractors.

Perhaps over the top scenario - but no more so than the one of our military being used to turn against us.

The fact that this admin has gone so out of bounds that we are even having this conversation is a frightening commentary.

[WinkyDink]

57. Of course. I said this to my husband yesterday. That's part of the method to the madness of the NG

in Iraq.

BLACKWATER JACKBOOTS AT HOME.

[cherokeeprogressive]

71. Never happen. The frightening commentary should be that people believe it possible.

I read somewhere that there are in the neighborhood of 1 BILLION guns in the hands of about 150,000,000 people. Not to mention the sheer area that would have to be controlled. Not to mention the mindset of most in the west... They'd NEVER roll over and allow it to happen.

If I'm forced to eat crow on this one, it'll be because someone is stuffing it into my dead mouth after I gave my life resisting it. I'm sure there are tens of millions who feel the same way.

[salin]

79. my response was similar - I can't see it happening. Evey rural road,

every surburban cul de sac, every urban block being regular patrolled - I just can't fathom that there is enough manpower, even using private military contractors, to do the job. And yet, the idea (intentionally getting as much of the military as possible out of the country to preven the military from stemming such an action) is an intellectually intersting idea - in the sense that I never would have even as an intellectual 'game' entertained this idea until very recently - when the unthinkable (an administration actively working outside of the Constitution and thumbing its nose at congress as if saying - while we won't disband you as if we were a third world country... we will operationally do the same thing by making you and your actions totally irrelevant...) has become the real.

That said - I don't think that logistically it is possible to put the entire country under martial law.

[krispos42]

47. He would order it based on a perceived 'crisis' that he would make

Kind of like beating a dog until one day it rears up and bites you, then saying "See? He's vicious!" while you shoot him in the head.

I doubt the generals will go along. My biggest fear is that a succession of generals resigning will not stop him. That he will simply go down the chains of command until some Regents or Liberty University captain is in charge, and then things will happen anyway.

There is a huge gap between generals resigning and generals rebelling, and I fear that unless the latter happens the former will be insufficient.

And as an aside, it is these kind of talks that make me wonder how, in the middle of this proto-fascist regime, that many of the same people that fear permenant martial law and King George and Crown Prince Cheney are the same people that advocate for things like strict gun control laws. "Guns should be registered, like cars are!" means that during an arbitrary presidentally-decreed emergency situation, BushCo knows exactly who owns what guns, and where to go to get them. And who to put in jail.

[trashcanistanista]

48. Yes.

He would order the military, they may or may not comply but Blackwater mercs certainly would.

[proud patriot]

49. After the way bush has treated the Constitution

I will put nothing past him

[Vidar]

51. He would, but more likely he'd use Blackwater or some anonymous

spook organization. The military might refuse or mutiny.

[AntiFascist]

63. Speaking of potential Hitler parallels....

Hitler setup up his own SS military forces, which started out as his personal bodyguards.

[WinkyDink]

53. He is most decidedly not above this. And think of the psychopathic thrill he would get.

[alfredo]

56. He wants to break the military so he can privatize them.

He will declare the military broken and has turned its personnel and assets over to Blackwater.

[jgraz]

62. He wouldn't think twice about it...but I doubt it will happen

I think Georgie is ready to go back to Texas and crawl inside a big bottle of Jim Beam. Prezidentin' is hard work. Diktatorin' would be even more harder. In the end, I think Georgie will slink off home, secure in the delusion that his legacy will be redeemed by the historians.

On the other hand, if it actually looks like he's gonna be removed from office and face criminal trial, all bets are off. (Not that we shouldn't do that, mind you.)

[liberalsoldier5]

65. Now you people are just getting crazy. nt

[treestar]

67. Not for that purpose specifically

The neocons would have trumped up an "emergency" for which he could term the protestors as "insurgent."

[Disturbed]

70. Swamp Rat answered the question correctly.

[conspirator]

68. During the end of communism in russia, some soldiers were ordered to shot people, but they refused.

There is hope

[MonkeyFunk]

73. No

but I don't expect that reality to impact anybody here. This place has become HysteriaCentral.

[NNN0LHI]

74. I just hope I can take that post of yours and throw it back at you and say...

..."see, you were right", after the next election. I really do.

Don

[Zandor]

75. Explain the headline?

And the article is a steaming pile of poo poo.

[JacquesMolay]

76. No way. He's had enough and is ready to pass the problems he's caused...

... to someone else.

[MrSlayer]

78. No. This is ridiculous.

He's long been tired of this job. All he wants to do now is walk away with the blood money and pass the problems on to the next one.