6pm news here: NEW evidence IRAN is involved in Iraq weapons smuggling!!!111

[Bluebear]

Look, "Dubya", go ahead and bomb them, just spare us your "evidence" and Condi Rice tut-tutting us and new talk about terrorist Iranians following us home like boomerangs, just do it already. You know you're going to, so why all this pretense? Why would anybody in their right minds believe a word of "evidence" you come up with ever again????


<frustrated here>

[Bluerthanblue]

1. i heard that

too.

:shrug:

frustration is too mild a word-

peace,
blu

[caligirl]

2. Bush, the boy cried wolf too many times, no one is listening now.

[Unreconstructed Lib]

3. Three words:

Gulf of Tonkin

[Bluebear]

4. :nodding:

[JacquesMolay]

5. What a 'surprise'. A 'smoking gun'.

Man, I never would have guessed that was coming, and that the media would play along like that. :sarcasm:

[Bluebear]

6. I can envision Colin Powell waving his little vial around to the UN again. nt

[TheFarseer]

7. Can there really be any doubt

Iran is helping some of the insurgents in some capacity? What the hell did we think would happen? That's why we should re-deploy to the borders and the periphery of Iraq.

[seemslikeadream]

8. IRAN IRAN IRAN

Say it enough "It must be true"

http://www.bushflash.com/14.html

[Rainscents]

9. I have a feeling...

Bush/Chenney is going to "TRY" this in September.. 9 or 18 or 27 = 9 Watch out for any one of these dates.
# 9 mean... finish unfinish business need to be finish and to clear away for # 1... New Begining (2008= # 1) and this year 2007 is # 9 and September is # 9.

[partylessinOhio]

10. This is why impeachment is so necessary. This insanity must stop.

To do so - the madman and his vice man must be taken out of power.

Believe it!

[Bluebear]

11. I DO believe it. Not "censure", nothing less than impeachment. nt

[KharmaTrain]

12. And How About Them Saudis???

Talk about a wide open border...and IRC, Al Queda's prime religious philosophy is Wahabiism? Oh yeah, we just ignore that situation...ya know, it was all those Iranians and Iraqis who were in those planes on 9/11.

This regime launches a strike into Iran at their own peril. And ours...sadly.

[seemslikeadream]

13. Hey what about us Turks!!

Don't forget us :hi: We don't like the kurds.

[thunder rising]

18. There is a real good chance we would not like them

if they were in our backyard. The only reasons we like them are:

1. They have their own agenda that does not include killing Americans.
2. They were the enemy of our enemy.

However, their agenda is going to create even more strife as time goes on. They want an independent nation that includes parts of Turkey and Iran.

[seemslikeadream]

20. You mean the Kurds want an independent nation

[Hippo_Tron]

14. As pointed out already, Iran isn't doing anything worse than the Saudis

Sure they're probably aiding the Shia factions in Iraq, but it is in their interest to do so. Again, this is about the equivalent of the Soviet Union aiding our enemies at various points during the Cold War. On top of that, the Shia factions are currently fighting against Al Quaeda, you know those guys who attacked us on 9/11...

The Bush Administration's policy seems to involve going after everyone but Al Quaeda and befriending the countries that don't crack down on them.

[Vinca]

15. Odd how the evidence mounts once the ships are in position. nt

[SalmonChantedEvening]

16. Who'd they get this from?

Slider? Change-up? Splitfinger? Forkball?

Or just some Knuckle umm.... head Chalabi wannabe.

[marmar]

17. The Whole Cloth Factory is running at full speed....

Who says we don't make clothes in Amurka? :sarcasm:

[defendandprotect]

19. but you may see that the propaganda works again on Congress --

even on frightened Democrats --

[Blue_In_AK]

21. I'm wondering...

if some Middle Eastern country, for example, were to invade Canada, would the US step in and provide arms and bodies? I'm thinking we would. What's so hard to understand about regional neighbors wanting to help an invaded country?

[Tom Rinaldo]

23. The U.S. did provide military aid to "insurgents" in Afghanistan fighting the Soviet invasion

Of course some of them later regrouped in Al Qaeda to fight us. The point is though that the Soviets didn't go apeshit ballistic over it. By the standards being applied by Bush/Cheney now, the U.S. committed an act of war against the Soviet Union by helping insurgents in Afghanistan kill Soviet soldiers there.

Bush has made it clear through numerous channels including official U.S. government policy that he wants to see the current government in Iran replaced by one more to his liking. Then he sent 160,000 American troops into a nation on Iran's border. Wes Clark describes any Iranian cooperation with forces inside Iraq fighting against Americans as "forward defense" from their perspective. The U.S. is a sworn enemy of Iran. As long as we hold to that attitude Iran has every incentive to do what they can to bog America's military down inside Iraq rather than letting us consolidate our influence in Iraq as a prelude to attacking Iran.

[Blue_In_AK]

25. Can't say that I blame them

when they look to the west and see what's happened to their neighbor.

[Telly Savalas]

24. Seems pretty plausible to me too.

But alarmists on both sides of the ideological spectrum seems to think that the necessity of American retaliation is a consequence of Iranian involvement in Iraq.

If anything, it's all the more reason not to be occupying Iraq.

[spanone]

22. frustrated here too.

fuckers