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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:09 PM
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To Senator Feingold: "A Very Trying Process" My Ass
"A Very Trying Process" My Ass
by The Baculum King
Sun Jul 22, 2007

Let me start by saying clearly that Senator Feingold is absolutely one of the very best we have; that fact fills me with more sadness every day.

..............

The good Senator evinces concern that Impeachment will put the country "through a very trying process", which would be a touching concern under other circumstances, but the sentient part of this Country has been going through a "very trying process" for some time now, what with an illegal war of aggression sold with a pack of deliberate lies and the systematic dismantling of our Constitution one piece at a time.

...................

Senator, forgive my indelicacy, but censure against the likes of Cheney and Bush is masturbatory, at best. If they are not definitively stopped THEY and their sycophants will be writing those history books you are so worried about, and those future generations will enjoy a mere shadow of the Constitution we inherited but failed to "protect and defend".

Impeach these criminals or just shut the hell up. There's really no middle ground.

more at:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/7/22/2138/29687
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:15 PM
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1. Spot on, kpete.
Impeachment will put the country through a very trying process? What the hell does Feingold think the last six and a half years of bushcheney have been?
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:18 PM
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2. There is only one solution....
IMPEACH!!!


K&R!!!
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 12:48 AM
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41. Impechment alone won't change a damned thing....
you have to convict for it to have ay effect.

Of course that makes Cheney president....
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:18 PM
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3. BushCo has video of Fiengold with teenaged hookers.
Edited on Sun Jul-22-07 10:26 PM by Atman
Period. No other explanation possible.

Except maybe teenage MALE hookers

Or middle aged male hookers.

Or hookers, or anthrax or SOMETHING. Russ's explanation for not impeaching is just plain STUPID.

.

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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:20 PM
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6. You're a real hoot.
:eyes:

You're just "plane" hilarious.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:28 PM
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:30 PM
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14. Classy!!
Thanks!!

:hi:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:33 PM
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:19 PM
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4. they don't have the votes to impeach
bringing impeachment proceedings will only backfire like they did against Clinton. The only thing that will make impeachment a viable option, is to PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt that Bush and all of them deliberately lied to get us into war and sell that to the media. Although it's very good that this idea keeps getting floated because you never know when some timely information (like a Downing Street Memo) will blow this whole thing up.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:23 PM
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8. That is fucking STUPID. How did it BACKFIRE with Clinton?
Edited on Sun Jul-22-07 10:24 PM by Atman
The MOST POPULAR PRESIDENT in the past hundred years? Only the REPUBLICANS are telling you it backfired, because it backfired against THEM for doing it NEEDLESSLY and with PARTISANSHIP the only underlying charge.

WAKE THE FUCK UP!

.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:26 PM
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10. How do you expect it to happen without the votes? Magic? Fairy Dust?
Seriously?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:32 PM
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:36 PM
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19. Funny that you accuse a Democrat of being a pedophile and call ME a Freeper.
Irony, thy name is Atman.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:39 PM
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21. Are you fucking nuts?
I accused a democrat of being a pedophile????????

You need to take your meds. WTF are you talking about?????

.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:43 PM
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24. WE HAVE THE VOTES! THE HOUSE WILL VOTE ON IMPEACHMENT
AND WE HAVE THE HOUSE. WE HAVE THE VOTES!

the senate votes on conviction.

and by the time the rest of america sees what these fuckheads have been doing --when they watch it on the nightly news--they will be calling their senators and screaming for a fucking conviction!!!

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:46 PM
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 12:41 AM
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39. Well, when you don't live in reality, anything is possible. I pick Fairy Dust. n/t
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 11:11 PM
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34. Clinton's approval rating went up 10 points and they almost lost the House in the '98 elections
So yes it did backfire.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 11:19 PM
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36. that's exactly what I said!
They went on their little impeachment witch hunt and the people perceived it as partisan. Clinton suddenly had the highest approval ratings since whatever you want to say, the repukes were seen as partisan hypocritical asshats, and Newt Gingrich has to resign in disgrace. Like I said, it backfired for the Republicans. I don't know what you thought I was trying to say.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:34 PM
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18. STOP with the 'we don't have the votes' bullshit already. You don't know
Edited on Sun Jul-22-07 10:36 PM by Ghost in the Machine
if they do, I don't know if they do, hell, THEY don't know if they do... but NONE of us will ever know unless we TRY. We don't have the votes?? Fine... make very one of those senators state on the record, on national TV, whether they support a criminal cabal or if they support the people they were elected to represent.

Actions... show us PROOF that you don't have the votes. Smoke these snakes out of their holes so we can identify them and know who our enemies are. Enemies to our Constitution and way of life. They *must* be purged.

I'd prefer that they tried and failed, than if they never tried at all.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:38 PM
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20. IT BACKFIRED RE: CLINTON BECAUSE THERE WAS NO BASIS FOR THE CHARGE!
Jesus Christ, are you people DAFT? OF COURSE IT BACKFIRED TO BRING FALSE CHARGES AGAINST CLINTON! They were FALSE charges! The charges against Bush are NOT FALSE!

WAKE THE FUCK UP!

.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:44 PM
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26. WE HAVE THE VOTES TO IMPEACH!!!!!
We may not have the votes to CONVICT. But, we should make every Republican stand up and defend their traitor.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 12:46 AM
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40. You're sure, absolutely sure that there are the votes to impeach in the House?
So every single Democrat in the House would vote for impeachment? There is not exactly a groundswell of support for impeachment in the House now and tic, tic, tic, time is running out fast.
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 03:34 AM
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47. I'm a "farseer," too, and I see it differently: We don't *know* it ...
... will backfire. The best seers through time have not been completely accurate. And I believe firmly, as a farseer, in the separation of psychic sensing and State.

Of course, you may only be referring to the future visioning that everyone does when trying to figure out what's coming down the pike!

Clinton did some "heavy petting" with a hapless intern. Bush has crapped all over the Constitution, the Geneva Conventions, has lied so many times it would be funny if not so sad, has used his magical signing pen to obliterate any law that raises his ire on any day.

Better a backfire than total effing spinelessness!!!

And ... BTW ... the media isn't buying. They're just regurgitating what their corporate overlords are feeding them!
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:20 PM
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5. What will she do when Bush makes her job obsolete?
When he and Cheney complete the takeover and disband Congress, where will Difi go?
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:24 PM
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9. Um, it's Feingold not Feinstein but your point is well taken
Probably to Gitmo to be held without trial for fuckin ever for unspecified crimes against the empire.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:26 PM
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11. LOL!
Thanks for the correction!
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:21 PM
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7. A very trying process?
The last 6 and half years have been what is so trying. No they want to campaign more than they want to do what they swore to do: uphold the Constitution, defend us from harm from within as well as without.


He is the best Senator we have and Pelosi is probably the best house member that could be leader. So when even our best fails us it is truly troubling times for America. This scares me more than any of their terror threats.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:29 PM
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13. I don't think Russ knows the Vulcan Mind Meld trick to use on fellow Senators...
...that don't want impeachment.

We need the votes. Or we get jackshit.


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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:42 PM
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23. WE HAVE THE VOTES! THE HOUSE WILL VOTE ON IMPEACHMENT
AND WE HAVE THE HOUSE. WE HAVE THE VOTES!

the senate votes on conviction.

and by the time the rest of america sees what these fuckheads have been doing --when they watch it on the nightly news--they will be calling their senators and screaming for a fucking conviction!!!

(note to du admins: PLEASE put "fuckhead" as proper spelling in spell check)

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 03:09 AM
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43. How do you know that?
we have a very slim majority in the House, including many conservative Democrats.

What evidence do you have that there are enough votes to impeach?
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 03:18 AM
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44. apparently our definitions of "a very slim majority" differ
i don't think of 30 more dems to be "a very slim majority"
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 03:20 AM
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45. That doesn't answer my question
there are more than 30 conservative dems.

How do you know impeachment would pass the House? I'm not saying it wouldn't... but I'm not saying it would. I'm asking how you're so sure.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:53 PM
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31. guess you guys better get rid of russ.....
Edited on Sun Jul-22-07 10:55 PM by madrchsod
i`m heading the Dump Durbin campaign here in illinois.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:32 PM
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15. Lancing a puss filled, infected wound is "trying" too...
but in order to heal properly, it MUST be done.

LANCE THE FUCKING WOUND. IMPEACH. NOW.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:40 PM
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22. R-5
I'm ready for a very trying process.

I love ya Russ, you were my first choice for Prez, But, grow your balls back.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:43 PM
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25. "A very trying process" sounds a little too close to it being
Edited on Sun Jul-22-07 10:44 PM by rateyes
"hard work." Now, where have we heard that before?

:kick: and REC'D.
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:44 PM
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27. The only thing worse than Feingold's "censure"
is Harry Reid's poo-pooing of even that LAME assertion.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:46 PM
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29. Trying criminals IS a trying process.
That's why they call 'em trials.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 10:52 PM
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30. I guess he thinks it's less trying to lose our country.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 11:03 PM
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32. but...if you think about it...the senate CANNOT IMPEACH.
it has to start in the house. impeachment comes from the house.

the only thing the senate can do is vote to convict on impeachment.

so this hand slap russ is talking about is about all he can do for now. UNTIL THE HOUSE IMPEACHES and then he can vote to convict.
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Hubert H. Hubert Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 11:05 PM
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33. Kay and effin Are
:applause:
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-22-07 11:15 PM
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35. IMO, start hearings on Cheney first and see what happens
Conyers says he'll move if three more congressmen get on board. With the evidence we have now, we don't have a case to get rid of both of them. Start with Cheney and keep digging.
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farmboxer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 12:31 AM
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37. A dictatorship would put the country through much worse
than impeachment! There is a huge difference between a BJ and taking over the country, therefore creating a dictatorship!
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 12:33 AM
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38. It would be an EDUCATIONAL PROCESS--it would give the unwashed
masses a focused rundown of everything Bushco has done to them.

This crap is simply that...crap. It's a way of avoiding LEADERSHIP.....
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 03:00 AM
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42. K&R. (nt)
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 03:24 AM
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46. Too perfect! I wrote my own sentiments to this effect to the good...
...senator this very night.

Censure is like that old threat, to wit: If you don't eat your spinach, you don't get any liver!!!! It's throwing them in the briar patch, for God's sake!
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 03:35 AM
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48. "Let me start by saying clearly that Senator Feingold is absolutely
one of the very best we have..."


Must be a blind spot. :shrug:

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 06:50 AM
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49. America is dying from all the false healing politicians want to shove down our throats
there can be NO unity with a dictator or the enablers of a dictator...

those who value freedom never - EVER - share common cause with those who would steal freedom away

Bush isn't a President...he's a criminal....treat him like one


"Impeach these criminals or just shut the hell up"

I've been saying the same for months and months...

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:14 AM
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50. it wasn't a "very trying process" when the Repigs
tried to impeach Clinton, huh?
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