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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 01:32 PM
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Do you suppose Impeachment is off the table because of 08?
I think we all know that ShrubCo would push every single demand from Congresss during an imp. hearing into the Courts! If I remember right, Nixon only did it once (re: the tapes), but THIS CROWD would calim EP and defy every subpoena issued! Like it or not, THAT TAKES TIME! Shrub knows he has the SCOTUS on HIS SIDE, so they can drag out their decisions or just flat out side with the WH!

I was thinking about this last night. We are only 15 months from the 08 Presidential election. Do you think our candidates have asked Nancy NOT to Impeach because of how that would overshadow the campaigns?
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 01:34 PM
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1. A drawn-out impeachment process only helps the Dems
in my opinion.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 01:37 PM
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7. I totally disagree.
Edited on Mon Jul-23-07 01:37 PM by liberalnurse
It suck oxygen away for the Power Position................The Democratic President for 08.

No to Impeachment.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 01:43 PM
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13. Dragging out all of Bush/Cheney's crimes
will not make the GOP look good, now will it? Besides, I'm more interested in the rule of law than any political party. Once we've established that the Executive can do whatever the hell it wants with total impunity, who's to say a Democrat won't also abuse the office?
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 01:52 PM
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17. I realize that and
it was not an easy decision on where to sit with this....I also wish to gain a majority at our Ohio Statehouse...Impeachment will also suck out the oxygen there as well. O8)
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 01:56 PM
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18. I just think there's no point in worrying about any election
if the President is an emperor unto himself. Your 'oxygen' metaphor isn't doing anything for me on that point.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 01:34 PM
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2. I've wondered the same thing...Dems blamed for creating a
Constitutional crisis during time of war.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 01:34 PM
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3. I think it's off the table because of the Clinton impeachment
Don't want to look vindictive, you know.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 01:35 PM
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4. I wouldn't put it past them
It is possible that is one of the reasons. Have you heard word one from any of the candidates about Waxman/Leahy/Conyers investigations? I haven't.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 01:35 PM
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5. Impeachment is off the table because Nancy is scared.....
I think this is what she's scared of I think this is what they
are all scared of with the exception of Kucinich/Conyers
and a few other brave souls.

"If Congress moves to impeach them now, it is very possible that they will attempt a coup d'etat ."

Those in the know in the Democratic party know this

to be the case I believe and they are hoping against hope

that Bush\Rove\Cheney\Gonzales will go quietly

because of an electoral defeat in 08.

Anyone who has watched these people operate for any length of time

knows this will not be the case.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 01:36 PM
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6. yes
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 01:37 PM
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8. I'm thinking old fashioned bribery.
'08 doesn't make much sense, since impeachment would help the dems in '08.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 01:37 PM
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9. I think key Dems fear that there would be a backlash to impeachment
procedings. While I believe that bushco deserves far worse than impeachment, I can see the stategy of winning the election. We Dems don't need to repel many of the middle of the roaders who are leaning our way. That's the only reasoning I see in the "off the table" arguement.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 01:37 PM
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10. Yes
they want the time to campaign not sit at proceedings, big donors probally don't much like the idea either.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 01:37 PM
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11. Yup
Stupid political strategizing at the expense of our Constitution freedom and our rights and our soldiers.

They took an oath to defend the Constitution. Seem to be more concerned about their fortunes and careers.

Gov of the corporations, by the corporations, and for the corporations. . .is completely untenable, unacceptable, and thoroughly unsustainable.

and unAmerican.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 01:42 PM
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12. "Gov of the corporations, by the corporations, and for the corporations"
Get used to it because that's the way it's gonna be from now till eternity. Bushco made damn sure of that, so as far as I'm concerned, the Dems ought to impeach just on principles alone.
















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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 02:39 PM
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21. okay cheerful
I got a better vision.

They can't get away with this crapola forever.

We will fall like every imperial power through recorded history. . .through our own hubris.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 01:44 PM
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14. Maybe Nancy's just too afraid that she...
might wind up as President.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 01:45 PM
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15. Never happen.
The senate will never vote to impeach. The best we can hope for is the embarrassment of a House impeachment.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 01:47 PM
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16. yess
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 02:01 PM
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19. Not sure. I haven't seen strong evidence proceeding
with an impeachment inquiry would do damage to 08 for democrats. I tend to think someone has something to hide.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 02:08 PM
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20. I think they would admit that
they're thinking about the effect impeachment would have on the elections, as well as on votes in Congress, such as Iraq-related votes.
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