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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:00 AM
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************** Official Gonzo Dissembling Thread #2**************
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:02 AM
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1. gonna be a long day we'll keep this one going longer than one sorry.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:10 AM
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62. Mr Attorney general do you expect us to believe that?
(that you went to the hospital for something other than forcing Ashcroft to sign). How did you expect approval from Ashcroft when he was incapacitated and under sedation.

He had already given up the power of Attorney General. Gonzo is lying big time. Specter is nailing him..let's see for how long.

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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:02 AM
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2. jusr tuning in...
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:02 AM
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3. Go Senator Leahy, nail that smarmy little bastardo!
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:02 AM
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4. Leahy giving him a chance to revise statements
Gonzo trying to talk his way around the question. He was given the question in advance so he can't use his usual answer.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:02 AM
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5. LOL! Leahy: this is almost an Alice in Wonderland Situation
:rofl:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:03 AM
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6. I don't get C3 and it's driving me nuts. Thanks for the play by play! nt.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:04 AM
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12. Can you stream it?
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:04 AM
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14. ask for proof that any of this disciplinary training has been done
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:04 AM
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16. Can you stream?
cspan3 or judiciary.senate.gov
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:04 AM
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11. Leahy disgusted with him already, and just started
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:04 AM
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13. We are fixing the problem with more training WTF?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:03 AM
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7. A violation of the IOB is not necessary a violation of the Patriot Act.
:rofl:
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:03 AM
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8. Leahy "alice in wonderland situation"
refering to complains about patriot act violations that are reported, filed away, and nothing done about it. Tries to force G to actually ANSWER
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:03 AM
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9. Leahy: Yes or No. Gonzo doesn't anwer, I thought Leahy was going
to pound his head on the desk.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:05 AM
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20. this guy is a criminal just haul his ass away.
the torture master, get rid of his ass.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:05 AM
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22. Gonzo's new stock answer:
"MAYBE. And that's final."
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:13 AM
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83. And that to the question "Is it animal, vegetable or mineral?"
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:04 AM
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10. thanks for the second thread shadowknows
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:05 AM
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19. I'll stay for one more but someone else has to take it from there
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:04 AM
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15. Gonzo: Blah, blah, blah..........
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:05 AM
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17. Leahy should have asked how many agents were disciplined and received additional
training for violating the Patriot Act.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:05 AM
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18. Holy Jeebus....
He just cannot answer a question without manipulating the situation.:banghead:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:06 AM
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31. Gonzo won't answer question as to prosecuting the contempt ciharges!!! eom
Edited on Tue Jul-24-07 09:07 AM by OmmmSweetOmmm
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:05 AM
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21. Now asking about contempt citations.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:06 AM
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27. What the fuck? Gonzo says he can't answer because he's recused from it.
He said it in a shaky fucking voice. Quivering voice.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:05 AM
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23. Leahy: Asking him about *'s statement about AG not pursuing contempt charges
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:06 AM
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29. And Gonzo says that he can't answer because he is recused
Leahy is getting really pissed.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:10 AM
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56. gonzo is protecting *'s ass. that is all it is.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:08 AM
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41. So, Gonzales taking the easy way out by citing "can't answer" because of "ongoing investigation."
Apparently, he is the least powerful person in the DoJ; he can't remember anything, he doesn't hire and fire, and he can't make any decisions on the most important matters facing the department.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:06 AM
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24. "Is There Anybody left in the DOJ that can answer these questions?" --Leahy
Pretty much sums it up.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:06 AM
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28. "The Solicitor-General".
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:06 AM
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30. Solicitor General was the answer.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:06 AM
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25. Brief update for us cube rats? nt
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:07 AM
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37. The problem is: Gonzo speaks in typical nonsensical Bushie syntax.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:08 AM
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45. Gonzo was just asked by Senator Leahy about the refusal to prosecute contempt of congress...
Gonzo answered in this quivering frightened voice and said he was recused from that matter.

Now Specter is asking about the Comey/Ashcroft incident.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:06 AM
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26. "Is there anybody left who can answer the question"
:woohoo:
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:06 AM
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32. Gonzo copping out on the Mier's contempt
"It's an ongoing investigation, I've recused myself, can't answer that."

What a goon.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:07 AM
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38. They need to throw gonzo under the bus right now
Leahy wants his hide.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:07 AM
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33. Oh, give me a break! "I'm recused; I am not going to answer that question"
Smack him!!!
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:07 AM
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34. We need Inherent Contempt!!!!!!! eom
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:07 AM
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35. Leahy should show him the door, to get out and start packing
how much more BS can they take from this jerk.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:15 AM
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93. "Leahy should show him the door"...
to the Congressional jail. Could they have the Sargent-at-Arms arrest him and throw his sorry ass in the basement?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:07 AM
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36. tuning late!
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:07 AM
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39. Specter up and questioning....
...about going to Ashcroft's bedside.

Specter sounds disgusted...maybe even a bit pissed off.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:08 AM
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43. "Do you expect us to believe that?"-Specter
w00t!
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:08 AM
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40. Specter up...
and just because he's an R doesn't mean Gonzo's gonna get a break.

Asking about going to Ashcroft in the hospital.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:11 AM
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71. Whoa....
...IMO, Specter IS pissed off. Asking a basic question: How could Gonzo in any way imagine getting consent from Ashcroft....since Ashcroft has given up his authority while under sedation.

Specter says to Gonzo: I am giving up on this subject and going to another.

Asking about Executive privilege...and asking about a POTUS barring Congress from getting a judicial determination.

IMO: One can tell that Specter at one time was a prosecuting atty!

Bravo, Sen. Specter! :applause:
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vanlassie Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:08 AM
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42. Specter: What credibility do you have left?
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vanlassie Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:09 AM
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52. Specter "How can you get approval for ANYTHING when the man is under sedation?"
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vanlassie Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:10 AM
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61. Specter "Not making any progress HERE...
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:08 AM
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Spector asking about hospital visit. Gonzo says blah,,, Spector: "Do you expect us
to believe that?"
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:08 AM
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44. Whoo EEEEE! The DOJ isn't planning on prosecuting the contempt of Congress. IMPEACHMENT TIME!
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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:08 AM
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46. Lied his ass off about Ashcroft hospital visit! Wasn't about terrorist surveillance program!
n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:09 AM
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47. Gonzo is a skilled LIAR
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:09 AM
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48. Spectoer: "Do you expect us to believe that?
he's in despair.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:09 AM
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49. Specter: Comey "I just witnessed an attempt to take advantage of a very sick man"
Gonzo: Another meeting puts into context

Sit Room meeting (a gang of 8) WH was informed that Comey wasn't going to approve what had been approved.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:09 AM
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50. Well, Gonzo just admitted there was more than one illegal program n/t
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:09 AM
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53. I love how he just calls him General Ashcroft
puts this whole cartel into perspective.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:09 AM
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51. Oooooh Dayum Specter is going for blood on the Comey/Ashcroft NSA Spying spat.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:09 AM
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54. Bad sign when audience laughs at Gonzo's answers...
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:10 AM
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60. Damn, I wish I could watch. nt
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:09 AM
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55. Specter is pissed off
Questioning Gonzo about Ashcroft's powers while he was under sedation. AS is mad.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:10 AM
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64. do you think constitutional govt can survive?
holy shit
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:12 AM
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80. Understatement!!
He is mad as hell. Almost a shouting match.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:10 AM
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57. "How can you expect Gen. Ashcroft to do anything, under sedation?"
"He was NOT ag; he had given it up in the hospital."
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:10 AM
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58. Specter sounds pissed. One little fact Gonzo!!! Ashcroft was NOT the AG at the time! COMEY was!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:11 AM
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70. Spector IS PISSED This little prick is lying his ass off.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:10 AM
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59. No matter how much time he had to prepare, Gonzo is nervous!
His body language (wringing his hands, arms folded in front of him, fussing with his shirt cuffs) is saying that he really didn't think he'd be called back to testify again.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:10 AM
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63. Holy mackeral; the audience is laughing at Gonzo; Specter is totally
disgusted.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:10 AM
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65. Holy Shite! Specter is going fucking ape on Gonzo, now going to Executive Privilege.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:10 AM
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66. These time limits are ABSURD and REVOLTING!! DEMOCRACY is at stake!!!!!!!!
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:10 AM
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67. The whole room
is laughing at Gonzo.... that's priceless!
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vanlassie Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:11 AM
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Audience is Groaning
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:11 AM
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68. LOL! "Not making any progress here! Let me go on to the next question"
:rofl:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:12 AM
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78. Not answering a question on
Constitutional Law.
Specter - nothing to do with your being recused. You're the AG and a lawyer.
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Draill Donating Member (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:11 AM
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69. I have watched several of these hearings,
as I am sure many of us have, and the disrespect shown for our representatives and senators still flabbergasts me. I expect it, but I never get used to it.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:11 AM
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72. Holy fucking crap folks! Specter is going for Gonzo's balls on Exeuctive Privilege...
how can constitutional government survive in the united states.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:11 AM
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73. OMG. That man MUST BE IMPEACHED!!!!!!!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:12 AM
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74. Recused from constitutional controversy? nt
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:12 AM
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79. Indeed, this is fucking weird. Gonzo keeps answering questions about that...
in a quivering voice!
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:13 AM
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82. He won't comment, because he just doesn't want to!
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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:12 AM
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Daym! Gonzo & specter head to head on whether Constitutional government can survive!
Gonzo is NOT ANSWERING!!
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:12 AM
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75. Time for the committee to hold Gonzo in contempt for refusing to
answer questions.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:12 AM
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76. The "I am recused" answer just wore out.....
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:12 AM
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77. Oh, audience comments are SO outre', so undemocratic, so not Miss Manners.
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:12 AM
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81. Spector is quite pissed. Starting to Drawl out his words.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:13 AM
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87. Fucking angry, "Specter Gone Wild"?
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:14 AM
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90. He's frustrated that Gonzo's making it really hard ...although
on the up side, the rest of the Cons MIGHT, just might take his lead. We shall see.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:13 AM
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84. "Well let's see if we can find a question you will answer.." --Specter
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:13 AM
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85. Okay, now Specter and Leahy are BOTH banging their heads on the table
Edited on Tue Jul-24-07 09:13 AM by Wednesdays
:banghead:
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vanlassie Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:13 AM
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86. Specter "Does the President have a conflict of interest..."
Re: Harriet Miers??? Gonzo refuses to answer.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:14 AM
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88. Thread #3
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:14 AM
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89. The little rat bastard won't answer the question about the Miers contempt of Congress.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:14 AM
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91. C O N T E M P T arrest the little shit
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:15 AM
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92. they should ask him if he still serves at the pleasure of President
and what about the American people and the Constitution. I wish they would slap down this guy, he is playing these Senators for fools.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:17 AM
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96. What's the difference between this q. session..
.. and staged theater? All for show.

It's been time to take action against the arrogant bastards
of Bushinc.

Impeach now!
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:15 AM
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94. Gonzo cannot remember how long he spent speaking with McNulty on a death penalty case...
You know he is lying.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:17 AM
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97. Specter would agree with you
Specter just said he had 500 death penalty cases and he remembers every one.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:23 AM
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99. this little man doesn't give a shit...period.
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:16 AM
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95. It would be nice to a shot of the audience there.
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codepinkdc Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:17 AM
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98. Give Gonzo a pink slip!!!
Want to take some action? Join Codepinkers every monday and friday in front of the justice department at 12 PM to demand that Gonzales resign!! Its good, colorful fun and it helps to blow off a little steam and sing "na na, na na na na, Gon-za-les, RESIGN" into a megaphone right in front of his office! See you there!!!
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:24 AM
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100. Thread #3
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