**************OFFICIAL THREAD 4 FOR SENATE JUDICIARY****

[bdamomma]

THREAD THREE HERE.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1418508

[helderheid]

1. first rec - tune in here:

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan3_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3

[Pachamama]

27. Awesome! I'm in a hotel that doesn't have CSPAN!

Actually, come to think of it, where can you EVER find CSPAN-3???

I'm going to bookmark this.....

[helderheid]

79. I only get 1 and 2 on my teevee. :)

[thereismore]

98. On dish network, for example. nt

[davidwparker]

110. which Dish Network channel has C-SPAN3?

[Pachamama]

112. I think in general, dish (satellite) gets access to more channels...

I have always assumed that the cable company doesn't want to have to pay additional fees so it doesn't bother and that either the satellite company does or it can somehow get access.

Unfortunately, my house doesn't have the best positioning for getting satelite tv...

[davidwparker]

114. yes, that's true and why I have Dish over cable. but, Dish Network has

C-SPAN1&2 only. I didn't know if you knew they had added 3 as well.

I guess I'll wait for Randi, Mike, and Thom to have highlight clips.

[thereismore]

116. It's called "dish network". Cspan-3 is among the "silver" lineup, but

may be among the bronze lineup. I have silver because MSNBC is not among the bronze.

Go to

http://www.dishnetwork.com/

they used to give away their 200 hour HD DVR for a subscription. I junked my cable and never looked back.

[davidwparker]

118. thereismore, I have Dish Network myself and have never seen C-SPAN 3. 1

and 2 yes, but no 3.

I just downgraded yesterday because I wasn't watching all the channels .... mainly HD, C-SPAN1/2, and FSTV.

Here's the Everything Package and I don't see C-SPAN 3.

http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/whats_on_dish/programming_packages/americas_everything_pack/packages.aspx

[thereismore]

119. I think you are right. I am not so sure anymore about Cspan3. nt

[Pachamama]

113. Unfortunately, I don't have a good clear southern exposure for satellite...

so that's why I have cable....

[shadowknows69]

2. thanks Alyce

[helderheid]

3. need one more rec

[The Cleaner]

4. Feinstein lamenting Gonzo's obfuscations!

I think she's being too nice pesonally.

Impeach him!

[Eurobabe]

5. DiFi: DOJ is a trainwreck, you just don't get it

[EVDebs]

6. Who put names on list, i.e., who's ultimately responsible...we already know where the buck stops.

"I ultimately approved the names..."--Gonzo

"I don't know the answer to your question..."--Gonzo

Take yer pick ? Is this a 'multiple choice' testimony ?

[helderheid]

9. 2+2 doesn't equal 4

[Eurobabe]

11. Gonzo: I'll have to get back to you on that..

DiFi: you don't know after all we've been through?

[hisownpetard]

117. Why doesn't SOMEONE say:

Don't you think that the ELCECTION LAWS are something you SHOULD KNOW?
Is there ANYTHING that you DO KNOW???????

I can't stand it. What a total imbecile he is. I wish they would give him
all their anger and frustration, both barrels, NOW!

[The Cleaner]

7. "Mr Ashcroft did most of the talking"

Under sedation? Yeah, he was goin a mile a minute I'm sure!

[bdamomma]

17. god, did he really say that?

the guy was under sedation, and tried to strong arm him under sedation.

[Norquist Nemesis]

8. "My recollection, Senator..." Oh, now he's able to tap his memory nodes

:eyes:

They're trying to destroy Comey's credibility.

[bdamomma]

10. don't these senators know they are being played for fools

gonzo has gotten away with so much shit.

[WinkyDink]

12. "How many did YOU approve to be fired?" "I don't know. I can find out."

"You. Don't. Know?"

[EVDebs]

Yes, but he admits "ultimate responsibility'" for the names on the list nt

[WinkyDink]

23. STILL doesn't answer HOW those names got on the list, and BY WHOM.

AKA, he's protecting Bush/Cheney.

[comtec]

26. and wtf does that mean for these crooks

it's not as though he's going to pay :(
IMPEACH CONVICT, REMOVE, AND THROW THE FUCKER IN SING SING!!!!!

[helderheid]

13. feet to the fire, DiFi!

[malaise]

19. Gonzo is contradicting previous Gonzo

testimony.

[The Cleaner]

28. haha

:rofl:

[The Cleaner]

14. Feinstein airing list of testimony from others...

Who approved those names? she asks...

[Warpy]

15. "You don't know? After hearing after hearing after hearing?"

Feinstein is certainly getting that point across, that this corrupt little shit is not going to answer anything.

[marmar]

16. What part of "what's the total number" can Ghoulzales not understand?

Obfuscation nation. "I did not have firing relations with that list of attorneys." :)

[bdamomma]

25. what??

I did not have firing relations with ........................

what kind of line is that? oh, he is doing some protecting of the bigger fish isn't he, they are worse than the mafia, really worse.

[marmar]

31. That's my creation, playing off the Clinton/Lewinsky line

:)

[bdamomma]

oh, you almost got me!!!

but you could hear him saying that.

[WinkyDink]

18. Gonzo is claiming misconduct, but now is just giving "for general example."

[EVDebs]

21. Feinstein now getting into DOJ vote fraud 'scrubbing' of guideline laws in book !

[EVDebs]

36. I don't know the answer to that question, (I'll have to get back to Rove on scrubbing)

Carol Lam's investigation and the USA's ... DiFi "Something's rotten in Denmark" she meant Washington DC

[bobthedrummer]

20. "I have to get back to you with that."

"I don't know the answer to your question."

[ananda]

40. political theater.. all for show!

AG knows nuthin's gonna happen but good ratings
for tv stations and a bit of showcasing for pols.

As long as he doesn't actually answer the questions,
all is well...

Nuthin's gonna change till they put his feet to the fire
and establish consequences.

Getting on tv and saying nothing in front of a mike
is not a consequence.

Sue

[The Cleaner]

22. He is digging his own grave.

n/t

[blondeatlast]

24. When is Kyl up? I bet Gonzo will have an incredible memory when he's on the mike. nt

[DeposeTheBoyKing]

46. He's on now

Asking Gitmo questions. Anything to avoid the US attorney scandal.

[Norquist Nemesis]

57. And here we go! Gitmo--BOO!! Sept. THE 11th--BOO!!!

Political Kisses between the two of them...awwwwww.

:banghead:

[WinkyDink]

29. "I know nussing!" Okay, he's going to do more "looking into"! Kee-ripes.

Don't these Senators GET IT YET??????????

[flyarm]

30. can't we get this mtf'er out of my government?? i am crying i can't take this another day!

[flyarm]

35. something is rotten in denmark..no shit sherlock impeach the prick!

[bobthedrummer]

"I don't know the answer to that question."

[originalpckelly]

32. Holy shit, Feinstein now going through two editions of DOJ election prosecution manual.

Deletions in the manuals...
Most of them are related to keeping an investigation quiet.

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

45. Feinstein "Somethings Rotten in Denmark"

[Pachamama]

33. Gonzo "I don't know the answers to those questions..."

WHAT DOES THIS MAN KNOW???????

[malaise]

Something's rotten in Denmark

that's an understatement DiFi.

[Pachamama]

55. Now White House tool Sen. Kyl is talking about Gitmo and terrorism and threats to America!

:puke:

Got to get that "Terror Terror Terror" message in to distract....

OOPS!!! Now the NBA is being mentioned and betting!!

Got to get those "Distractions" in....

:puke:

[The Cleaner]

34. Feinstein: "Somthing's Rotten in Denmark!!"

[shadowknows69]

41. More Gitmo bullshit

[malta blue]

Something is rotten in Denmark....DiFi

[marmar]

37. Denmark's fine, Sen. Feinstein - it's America that stinks to high heaven...

n/t

[Pachamama]

38. Something is very rotten in Denmark....Indeed....n/t

[Javaman]

50. now if we had a real news industry that would be the lead headline across the country. nt

[in_cog_ni_to]

39. DIFI.."something's rotten in Denmark." Really???

:eyes:

[WinkyDink]

54. Was that weak or what? Calling Rosenkranz and Guildenstern.

[quiet.american]

42. Naturally, Gonzales knows NOTHING about the changes to the DoJ manual.

Somebody's running the DoJ, but it ain't him. Oh, but he's not leaving either.

[shadowknows69]

48. He's committed to finding the real Atty. General.

[in_cog_ni_to]

43. KYL up...memory returns

[blondeatlast]

52. Yetp--see upthread. I called it.

I apologize for John Kyl, America. I did my best...

[berner59]

56. internet betting???????????

Just leave Kyl if you have nothing relevant to ask...OMG!!!!!!!

[Norquist Nemesis]

70. Thank you, Senator, I appreciate the distraction so I can highlight my

recent 'good things' agenda. Whew!!! (Gonzo gives flirty wink to Kyl.)

[WinkyDink]

44. What's with the "given" that "nobody wants these Gitmo detainees in our country?" WHY NOT? Don't we

have good prisons???

[KoKo]

53. They will "spill the beans" about their torture..... can't have that!

[in_cog_ni_to]

61. And they would be in FEDERAL prisons! Pure repuke rhetoric.

[flyarm]

47. if i was a terrorist..and i watched this..and the lies and incompetance..wow ...

[flyarm]

51. i am just saying..and these pricks are supposed to be keeping this nation safe?

[flyarm]

62. liars and incompetent boobs..this is like watching an idiot ..but an evil one..

[bdamomma]

49. I am glad I'm getting play by play here

cuz I couldn't take looking at his ugly smug. He has no respect for those Senators none at all. He is playing them for fools, I wish one of them would say they do like the way he is presenting himself to the Senators, and to the Committee, just throw it at him.

[marmar]

58. What the f**k does the NBA have to do with the attorney firings?

:shrug:

[kma3346]

72. I think he's just trying to kill time

And make Gonzo look like he's doing something worthwhile...

:puke:

[bobthedrummer]

59. Kyl brings up sports scandals. Friends of Abramoff do this often.

:nuke:

[blondeatlast]

65. Kyl's a sleazy behind the scenes player. Watch him carefully, America. nt

[Hepburn]

60. WTF????

Internet betting....this is an issue for this hearing???

[KoKo]

67. Kyl must have some buddies who need his help in "internet betting."

[EVDebs]

71. Apparently gambling and Barry Bonds are the priorities of DOJ ?

What is DOJ up to re domestic surveillance ? Lights, cameras, action !

[in_cog_ni_to]

They always do this to enable the criminals to cover up their crimes. The fewer questions Gonzo

has to answer on the USA issue, the less chance of committing more perjury!

[WinkyDink]

63. OMG. Kyl is discussing Internet gambling. Well, maybe he can also go after Abramoff and the Gambling

Cruise that Mohammed Atta et al. were on.

MUTE TIME for TRAITORS.

[mile18blister]

64. Kyl: Internet gambling.

Diversion, quick!

[Eurobabe]

74. potty break

[Norquist Nemesis]

81. yep! but I was thinking more along the lines of #2 relief

All the shit that's flowing at the moment won't make it too hard to get it done and be back by the time Kyl's time is up.

[Pachamama]

66. Right now is right-wing tool Sen. Kyl's opportunity to distract...he's talking about the NBA and

the problem of internet gambling....

Funny....Gonzo seems to perk up and have lots to say.... :eyes:

[bobthedrummer]

83. DoJ Criminal Division's Alice S. Fisher

"Alice S. Fisher is still hanging in the Gonzales DoJ Criminal Division"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3294810#3294851

[marmar]

68. Arizona, we like your sunshine, but we don't like your senators.

:puke:

[blondeatlast]

75. I'm sorry, sorry, sorry. I did my best. nt

[KoKo]

76. Maybe Bill Bennett is feeding his habit online rather than in Vegas..

[flyarm]

69. giving you an opportunity to lie and cya..and you still can't you freaking idiot!!

[EVDebs]

78. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...Kyl knows the Wizard's requirements !

[Blackhatjack]

73. Breaking! MSNBC & CNN will probably carry Gonzo comments about NBA point shaving...

[blondeatlast]

77. No doubt, no doubt. nt

[EVDebs]

82. The growing national security threat of internet gambling ! The HORROR !

[mrcheerful]

85. Not to mention that Gonzo is keeping kids safe from mafia run internet gambling

[Inuca]

80. While we are on the Kyl break...

I do hope that the other dems will be there eventually, especially Durbin. I would REALLY like to hear his comments about what G said re the Ashcroft visit (Comey not agreeing to what the "gang of 8" wanted to do on an "important intelligence matter").

[Blackhatjack]

84. "Fredo" may have more to fear from Bush/Cheney than Congress after this performance

He is so far beyond any kind of rehabilitation.
He has obviously lied.
He is not willing to testify he will carry out his duties as AG.

HE is toast.

WHen Bush/Cheney no longer has a need for someone, they usually just fade away.

[ananda]

86. Special prosecutor? To be appointed by AG? SCREAM!

Give me a fukkin break.

[kma3346]

87. This is such a waste of time

I think that there are much more important things to talk about than Internet betting at this point in time. Like the survival of our constitution and country!!!!

:mad:

[bdamomma]

97. more obstruction from the repigs

they are really in our way, of anything getting done, it's not us against the dems, it's us against the repigs. they are the road block.

[bdamomma]

88. what's going on???

[pdxmom]

89. In regards to Gonzo "recusing" himself...I want someone to ask him

if that means he is recused from having any discussion or communication with ANYONE in the executive branch regarding these same issues. I don't believe for one second that he's not in meetings or emailing daily with Rove and Co. about these issues.

[Blackhatjack]

90. Well Internet gambling is so much more impt than politicization of the DOJ

[in_cog_ni_to]

91. Cardin (D) now up.

[bobthedrummer]

92. Why gee, yes, let's return to the USA issue...

[Blackhatjack]

93. Mark it down, this is the lowest point in DOJ history....

[WinkyDink]

105. And possibly Congressional.

[Inuca]

94. Kyl finally done. Cardin up

[The Cleaner]

95. Ben Cardin up

[marmar]

96. Translation of Ben Cardin's statement:

"Now that we're done with Asshat John Kyl's deflection to talk about NBA referees with gambling problems...."

[EVDebs]

101. "I did not put the names on the list" but he is ultimately responsible

for covering up who higher up that him did

[RufusTFirefly]

Please!!! Enough of the "incompetence" meme!!

If there is any incompetence in this criminal administration, it is deliberate, designed to undermine the credibility of certain government "bureaucracies" so as to make it easier to argue in favor of privatization.

In the case of the DOJ, fundamentally there is NO incompetence. Torture Boy remembers, and he knows EXACTLY what he is doing.

[flyarm]

108. of course he does ..he is a liar , and he is a criminal..but he is incompetant running the doj..

because anyone running that office would know to never do what this asshole is doing!!

anyone else would know through competance to not do what this mtf'er is doing!!

[Occulus]

109. I think perhaps we're confusing his intent.

So far as his intentions regarding the DOJ are concerned, I think it is safe to say that he's doing exactly as he intended.

There is no incompetence. This is all proceeding exactly as planned.

Yes, I'm rather bitterly cynical at this point. :)

[flyarm]

115. well we all know that....it is his job to look incompetant..we all know that!!

[bdamomma]

99. STARTED NEW THREAD LOOK BELOW

started thread 5 here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1418968

[bobthedrummer]

100. AGAG: "There were some names on the list that didn't surprise me..."

[Blackhatjack]

102. Gonzo does not know who put the names on the list.... he is still in the dark, found out nothing

He suffers from Bush's 'incuriousness malady.'

Does not know, has no desire to know, .....

[WinkyDink]

103. Spectral names appeared from the ether! [Cue "Twilight Zone" music.]

So Gonzo has no idea how the attys' names got on the list, BUT HE ACCEPETED THEM AND ACTED ON THEM AGGRESSIVELY.

WTH???????????????

[in_cog_ni_to]

104. LOL!!! No one knows who put the names on the list. Riiiight. K-K-K-R-O-V-E?? B-U-S-H???Just a guess.

:eyes:

[flyarm]

106. i just called Kyl's office and told them my husband has been in professional sports his entire life

and the questioning Kyl did was an insult to all americans ..that his cya gonzo questioning was a affront to all americans and our judicial system and that he should be ashamed of himself and if he thinks americans will forget his insulting bullshit and his bogus questioning ..we will surely not!
and that Kyl was obstructing justice and the justice system, by bringing sports and bullshit into this ... to cover this incompetant lying sack of grabage in our attorney generals office

..and this bush ass wipe!

fly

[AndyTiedye]

107. IMPEACH GONZALES!

Seems like the best place to get the IMPEACHMENT train moving is right here!

IMPEACH GONZALES!

It is very likely we could get the votes to remove him.



IMPEACH GONZALES! (THEN CHENEY, THEN BUSH**)

[formercia]

111. I second the motion.

"IMPEACH GONZALES! (THEN CHENEY, THEN BUSH**)"