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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 12:12 PM
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Will we ever hear any Democratic congressperson say "Iraq is all about profit?"
Only a mentally challenged Republican still thinks that Iraq is about anything but profit.

I may have missed it, but I have yet to hear any Democratic senator or house member stand up and say, "This is the greatest heist in the history of the world. It is about the control of oil and for those who profit from both oil and war."

Halliburton has stolen untold billions from the U.S. treasury through their involvement in Iraq. And needless to say, Dick Cheney, through his deferred Halliburton stock options, has personally made untold millions on this war. -- How much the Bush family has made through their various holdings may never be known.

Then there's Blackwater, the Bush/Cheney private army which has reaped unknown billions at the expense of the United States Army. And let's not forget those who produce the goods of war that are meant to protect our soldiers, but in reality short changes them and gets them killed with Kevlar vests that no sane police dept. would buy, Humvees that lack sufficient armor, and other pieces of substandard equipment that we haven't even been told about yet.

But back to my main point. Where are the Democrats? Why aren't they standing in the well of the house and senate screaming out that this is a "war" for profit. Why aren't they shrieking that Americans are dying by the thousands, and Iraqis are dying by unknown hundreds of thousands, for the profits of a relative handful of people who really couldn't care less about the mountain of dead bodies piling up -- as long as they maintain their profit margins.

The silence of the Democrats on what this war is really about makes them enablers in this unconscionable crime against humanity. I wonder how many of them sleep well at night?

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dollie300 Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 12:14 PM
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1. You can't eve get the Dems in Congress to talk about the Iraqi Oil Law
and the real reason that little political progress has been made in Iraq.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 12:16 PM
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4. actually not true, most of them are very vocal in supporting it.
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dollie300 Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 10:30 AM
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11. Touche!!
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 12:15 PM
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2. it is also about expanding and keeping US empire, a pursuit of both parties
for a very long time.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 12:25 PM
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6. Okay, so it's about profit, power and hegemony at any cost.
However anyone tries to justify it, I don't think it's what Jefferson, Madison, Franklin, et. al. had in mind. And I really don't think it's what most Americans have in mind.

All three goals are for the benefit of the (very) few and the detriment of the many.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 01:09 PM
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8. full agreement here. the problem with the Dems is that at best
they say that it was based on good motivations but a terrible miscalculation.

very few can say it was a war crime.
Impeachment is getting these boys off way too easy. They should be sent to the Hague for crimes against humanity, for starting a war of aggression against a sovereign state.

but the reason is, don't nearly all US presidents support unnecessary aggression against other nations?

isn't that what america is all about right now?
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 12:16 PM
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3. Kucinich has said it, McDermott has said it
I think most of the Out Of Iraq Caucus has said it. But they can rarely get time on the floor for this subject except late at night. And they can forget about the Three Monkeys Media giving them any airtime to say it
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 12:18 PM
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5. They probably have said it. But somehow, it never gets broadcast or published.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 12:50 PM
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7. Didn't Gravel say that last night in the CNN/ You Tube debates? n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 01:12 PM
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9. I think Gravel has been pretty up front.
Kucinich has tried to bring awareness of the oil privitization issue. I'm just looking to give credit where credit is due.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 01:14 PM
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10. if a tree falls in the forest, does it fall?
:shrug:
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 10:38 AM
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12. Henry Waxman Has Been Anything But Silent
He's been watching and now digging into the contracts and contractors...the profiteers. He doesn't have to run for microphones to do this. His problem isn't what to investigate, it's been where to start.

And what silence is there when all Senate Democrats voted in favor of both the Webb and Reed-Levin ammendments? Not a single defection. That speaks unity and loudly. The silence is on the Repugnicans who play concern trolls...pretending to have "reservations" about this war for profit but voting to continue a Repugnican fillibuster that would force a full debate and vote on bringing this awful invasion to an end.

The time to deal with colaborators and traitors in a war is usually afterwards...and the contractors and their political benefactors will be judged harshly in both the history books and the court of law.

If there was silence, it was 6 years of secrecy of a unitary regime enabled by a rubber stamp legislative that allowed all this profiteering to go on. It's time for the Repugnicans...who provided NO oversight...to be held accountable and the focus put there.

Cheers....
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