Raven
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Tue Jul-24-07 01:27 PM
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Who has let the country down? Conyers, or those of us who didn't |
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get enough Dem votes out in 2006? I think I blame us. The battleground is not John Conyers' office, it's out on the streets, in the neighborhoods, registering voters, getting them to the polls. We did an awsome job in 2006 but it wasn't enough. Eighteen months before the 2008 election, the group I work with is gathering thousands of names, thousands. We're entering them into our data base, picking up volunteers, registering first-time voters. This is what I think I can do. I will trust John Conyers to do the job he's always done. Time to get away from the ketboard and hit the street. That will make all the difference.
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Tue Jul-24-07 01:28 PM
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Tue Jul-24-07 01:28 PM
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We pretty muched turned the tide even in the face of voting rights abuses.
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Tue Jul-24-07 01:31 PM
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5. Not quite a turned tide. The #s still not good enough |
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We failed and too many rail at those on our side on the Hill.
Gotta put enough pressure on to make some of the GOP buck bush
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Tue Jul-24-07 01:32 PM
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6. Well, I know we did in NH, but we didn't turn enough of a tide in some |
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Tue Jul-24-07 01:41 PM
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:)
But getting out the vote is important too. I agree, so are paper trails.
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Tue Jul-24-07 01:31 PM
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3. I don't think it's very fair to inject reality into this debate |
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Plus, I prefer a situation that puts the onus on someone else not me. Bryant Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Tue Jul-24-07 01:41 PM
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11. Reality is we have plenty of members to make voting |
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on articles of impeachment a reality. Once even one looks like it will be voted on in the affirmative, you'll most likely see republicans approach the administration (either one-bush or Cheney) to give it up (like what happened with Nixon).
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Tue Jul-24-07 02:28 PM
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22. Not the same situation |
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If we go for impeachment now without a solid prosecution a la Archibald Cox or something similar the GOP will have no incentive to turn on Bush.
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Tue Jul-24-07 02:45 PM
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Tue Jul-24-07 02:33 PM
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24. When the House impeached Nixon the votes were definately |
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there to convict in the Senate. That was the message given him by the Repubs who took the long walk to the White House.
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Tue Jul-24-07 01:31 PM
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4. I think those who think "it" must come from "the top" are just perpetuating |
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the same errors, from the opposite end of the spectrum, that we are fighting now.
"It" HAS TO be us, not "them" no matter how you define "them".
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Tue Jul-24-07 01:33 PM
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Tue Jul-24-07 01:42 PM
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It's up to all of us. It's very sad to see us turn on our own. That's just want the right wants to see. After we finish beating up each other they'll walk right in and get what's left. What's so remarkable they would have to steal a single vote.
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Tue Jul-24-07 01:37 PM
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8. You are absolutely right! |
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We the Democratic voters managed to take over the House AND the Senate in the face of systematic election fraud by the other side and we still failed to win a big enough majority to give our congressmen/women the fool-proof, risk-free tools that they would need in order to be effective in their jobs. WE LET THEM DOWN. SHAME ON US.
Anymore thoughts out there on blaming the victims?
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Tue Jul-24-07 01:43 PM
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13. Well, I guess I'll just sit back and wait for John Conyers to |
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pull the rabbit out of the hat. Yup, that's the way to get things done. Or maybe I should just consider myself a victem of the process rather than a participant, blame somebody else and crawl in a hole.
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Tue Jul-24-07 01:40 PM
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9. Some of us warned that election night 2006 was just the BEGINNING, |
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the first baby step on the road to taking our nation back.
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Tue Jul-24-07 01:47 PM
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14. It's up to you, me, DUers, Democrats, Independents, Greens, Progressives, John Conyers, |
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The House of Representatives, the Senate, and everybody in between.
Nevertheless, We the People cannot trust our representatives to do their job. We already tried that and where has it gotten us? We MUST encourage them, one way or another, to continue to do the right thing.
This ones who let us down: Bushler and the entire Executive Branch, the Judicial Branch, The GOP, neo-nazis, KKKlan, religious bigots, and all the numb-nuts who support them.
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Tue Jul-24-07 01:52 PM
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15. I spent November 7, 2006, knocking on doors all day |
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I spent the day before doing a door to door lit drop in the rain and then attended a rally and got to meet Sen Durbin and Barack Obama (for a second or 2).
I spent the weekend before doing more canvassing and driving around volunteers.
I spent the weeks before doing data entry after work almost every night at the campaign headquarters.
I also dropped nearly $500 in donations.
I still think I could have done more.
Most importantly I had a great time doing it.
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Tue Jul-24-07 01:56 PM
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16. People like you got us into the majority and people like you will |
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put us in an even better position in 2008. I hate the thought of canvassing everytime before I do it and then after about the third house I realize that I really love it. This stuff is hard work but what a thrill when your side wins and you know you had a part in it!
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Tue Jul-24-07 01:59 PM
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17. I blame my republican congrss person |
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and it galls me to see Dems getting all this grief while Pukes did all the shit
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Tue Jul-24-07 02:01 PM
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18. The registered voters who sat on their asses and didn't vote... |
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That's who I put a lot of blame on. Voting does work and it works better when the entire population takes part in elections. Even though there are voting issues that need handled such as having paper ballots, I do believe this country would fair a hell of a lot better by at least 90% of the voting population doing their duty on election day.
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Tue Jul-24-07 02:22 PM
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19. It is a miracle that we overcame election fraud and gave the Dems the House and Senate |
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and you are blaming US?
Conyers knows about election fraud and yet he tells us to wait for elections? Has he done anything to pursue the theft of our elections since Ohio?
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Tue Jul-24-07 02:31 PM
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23. If we're going to blame Conyers I think we have to take a good |
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hard look at the tools we gave him.
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Tue Jul-24-07 02:25 PM
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21. Well, since my state re=elected a Democratic Senator, |
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and I did work my tail off to try and oust a repuke conman who has a seat that even Bill Clinton couldn't capture, I'm not sure what else I could have done.
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Tue Jul-24-07 02:48 PM
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and the other "democrats" who played nice while the fascists were taking over the country, especially during the last 10 years or so.
the repukes impeached Clinton for a consensual blow job (228 - 206). The "democrats" currently have a 233 - 202 majority.
they approved the Patriot Act and its continuation.
they approved the Reagan-Bush-Bush tax schemes that have made the US into a pure oligarchy.
in the minority and in the majority alike, they have been patsies to such a degree that mere incompetence is an insufficient explanation.
the current "democrats," including Conyers have failed America.
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