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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 04:58 PM
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I watched "V for Vendetta" during my "Angry Leftist" movie marathon over the weekend....
And I just read the stories about * and his minions carping about the threat of al-Qaeda attacks, and I watched Gonzales defend torture and spying and assorted B.S. this morning on TV.....
I'll be damned if this country isn't starting to feel just like the England in that movie. :scared:
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:00 PM
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1. What you mean "starting?"
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:00 PM
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2. Point taken.
:hurts:
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:04 PM
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3. And to think, "V for Vendetta" isn't a "LEFTIST" but rather a liberation against fascism film.
I can't remember the teevee celebrity's name in that movie but he seemed perfectly mirrored after Limbaugh and/or Savage and/or Falwell and/or et al right-wing freaks in our country.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:06 PM
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4. Commander Prothro?
It was Limbaugh with a British accent, right down to the prescriptions addiction.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:21 PM
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7. tossup between Limpballs and O'Loofah
Edited on Tue Jul-24-07 05:21 PM by Donnachaidh
and throw in some Boortz for the right amount of piggish bellowing.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:32 PM
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13. Prothero was the name...
Prothero...

My suggestion.... please, please, please read the graphic novel. I'm not into comic books by any means, but my pal who dragged me to the movie is. I enjoyed the movie for what it was, but then my pal loaned me the graphic novel.

By God! It's an incredibly rich, detailed, and well-thought out story that ends up making the film seem tame, timid and mellow. (Although the actor playing Inspector Finch was a perfect cast)

Written in either '80 or '81, and app. 300 pp. Not the comic book stuff I grew up with by any means...
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 06:12 PM
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23. Alan Moore is the Author
And you're right: it's brilliant. I *AM* a comic book guy, and I can tell you that Moore is almost single-handedly* responsible for reinventing the medium. Almost all his stuff is fantastic. If you liked "V for Vendetta", pick up "From Hell" (not a bad movie adaptation, either) and "the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" (terrible, AWFUL adaptation).

Moore himself is kind of a prick, I'm sorry to say, but then, that's not uncommon with the geniusy, artistic type. He refused to lend his name to "V for Vendetta" the movie, and claims he'll never watch it (or any other movie adaption of his work from that period), but he DID trash the script, albeit in a very petty, nit-picky manner. It's a shame, because I thought the movie was very much in the spirit of the novel, and served as a fitting tribute to Moore's work.

*there were others, of course, but Moore was arguably the most popular...and prolific.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 06:49 PM
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27. i recently purchased the hardcover edition..
I can't wait to get into it.
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:18 PM
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5. Who do you think is our "V for Vendetta" today for America?
Cindy Sheehan
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:34 PM
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14. We're Sorely Lacking A V
Cindy Sheehan is NOT V.

We have No V's.
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:42 PM
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16. No?
But that's what I think at least Cindy is trying to do. She has courage to stand up and fight against all odds, keeps on and on to the point she tires many of us out, but what a shame. She rejects both parties be on her own. So that's pretty close...yet so far.

Yes, you're right. We're Sorely Lacking A V
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:52 PM
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20. Michael Moore?
What ya think?
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The Blue Flower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:20 PM
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6. Homeland Security
I stepped out for a walk at lunch today here in Seattle. I work across the street from the Federal Building. Parked around the street were various vehicles with the logo "Homeland Security." Who ever could have imagined such a fascist phrase would become the official name for our national security apparatus? I felt like I was in an alternate reality.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:23 PM
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8. Not a pleasant sight! I have never "keyed" a vehicle but I think
I would have been sorely tempted had I been in your shoes. I can't believe I even thought of it!!!
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:26 PM
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10. I had a similar experience recently.
Here I am in Temecula, Ca., of all places (1-1/2 north of San Diego - inland)(19 miles through a mountain range east of Capistrano), and I'm driving down city streets. A van drove by with a big "HOMELAND SECURITY," and this law school grad went home and told Hubby, "WTF? When I was a social worker, Border Patrol drove around, but that was as close to Federales as we got out here in SoCal." I had to resist every urge to flip him off (and I used to work with law enforcement every day, and counted them as my friends). It's a different world.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:26 PM
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11. Straight out of Goebbels' playbook....
My "homeland" is Planet Earth.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:23 PM
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9. I get in those angry leftist moods.I watch 1984.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:28 PM
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12. What else did you watch????
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 07:22 PM
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29. The Corporation, F9/11, Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room....
Children of Men, Idiocracy, and Unconstitutional: The War on Our Civil Liberties....

I needed sedation and a drink. :beer:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 08:41 PM
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33. Before or after?
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 07:58 AM
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38. Next time, add...
Children of Men
Nineteen Eighty-Four
The Handmaid's Tale

and, maybe,

The Stand (TV miniseries)

Tesha
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:58 AM
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39. A little bird told me...
A little bird told me that a re-make of the mini-series 'The Stand' has been given the green light and casting is currently underway.

Although I enjoyed the original, I thought there were a few actors that miscast-- Molly Ringwald stands out to me as a "WTF were they thinking?". Also, I think they chose someone who merely didn't suck for the role of the Dark Man-- my thinking would be to get Christopher Walken to play the part. It's his eyes, ya know?
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 09:33 AM
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41. Actually, I kind of liked the "ordinariness" of Jamie Sheridan.
> Also, I think they chose someone who merely
> didn't suck for the role of the Dark Man --
> my thinking would be to get Christopher Walken
> to play the part. It's his eyes, ya know?

Actually, I kind of liked the "ordinariness" of
Jamie Sheridan; it keeps you mindful that devils
(evil) could easily be walking among us completely
unrecognized. Think Karl Rove, George W. Bush,
George Will, etc. ...

Tesha
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:36 PM
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15. I watched Fahrenheit 9/11 again.
still makes my head want to explode
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:45 PM
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17. me,too-i want to beat my head against the wall
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:50 PM
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19. this bullying tactic was the first clue
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:45 PM
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18. I'm too fragile to watch stuff like that right now
It's not as bad right now, but I doubt it'll get better anytime soon...witnessing the real thing happening before our eyes is bad enough :scared:
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:54 PM
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21. It's actually,...an optimistic film. Watch it. You wouldn't feel,...
:scared:
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 06:14 PM
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24. Indeed. It Gives Me Hope.
And the last bit...Christ, it gets me bawling every time.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 05:57 PM
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22. What other movies did you watch?
I like the idea of a "leftist marathon". Might try it myself.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 07:23 PM
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30. See response #29
n/t
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flying rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 06:36 PM
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25. I can never hear the 1812 overture the same way again.
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 06:40 PM
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26. V is not a leftist. V for Vendetta is beyond left/right...
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:44 PM
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36. Its a universal parable, the quest for the holy grail.
the restoration of balance
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Fierce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 06:59 PM
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28. I just saw this movie this weekend too!
I thought it was kind of odd.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 07:57 PM
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31. odd is a mild word for it
the "hero" tortures our heroine and breaks her spirit so that she no longer fears death, well, isn't that special

there are no good guys in this nasty little film just evildoers on every side of the line

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Fierce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:02 PM
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34. You saw what I saw.
Edited on Tue Jul-24-07 09:03 PM by Fierce
It's certainly not the big "truth to power!(TM)" movie many on DU seem to think it is.

ETA: I would, however, like to read the books.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 09:39 AM
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42. Do you really think we're going to get rid of these fascists peacefully?
I don't want to "load" this question too much, because
I'd actually like to hear your unbiased opinion, but...

Do you really think we're going to get rid of these
fascists peacefully?

Tesha
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Fierce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 07:26 AM
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37. And...
...I'm not about to follow a guy who covers his face and blows things up. If people are blowing things up, I want to know who it is, thanks.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 08:00 PM
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32. Me too
I watched it (for the 2nd time) last night... powerful and inspirational...
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:16 PM
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35. I liked the van picking up conversations inside homes. nice touch.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:59 AM
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40. Combine V with Children of Men = America by 2020
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