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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:15 AM
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What Would Jesus Do? Answer:
He would not start a war, especially one based on lies.

He would not let govt resources go to war and waste while the people at home were sick and uninsured.

He would not focus the power and money of the government on spying on the people while the poor here suffer.

He would not take billions and soak it into all sorts of crap while making it harder for people to pay for what should be free education.

He would be fucking smart enough to know that the REAL threat to the people here is not the terrorists but poverty, sickness, and hunger.

Some things he might do here:
He would love his children, regardless of their sexual orientation.
He would heal and not spend 8 years in power waging wars.
He would feed the hungry, help the poor, and take care of his fellow citizens - not the elite.
He would impeach bush and bypass gitmo and send his ass straight to hell.

Where is Jesus now? He got off this rock of insanity.

And no - YOU may not believe in Jesus - but THEY do, but they obviously never read what Jesus said or took the time to try and understand his words.

Me - yeah, I am someone who calls themselves a Christian - and I can damn well assure you that the clowns in power aren't. They are the ones Jesus warned me about, they are the Pharisees.

So AGAIN I ask - WWJD? He would put them to shame for calling themselves Christian while acting like the anti-Christ.

I am one Christian is who is pissed off at these assholes in power who even DARE to call themselves Christian. I am damned far from living up to what that term means, but at least I know it and don't pretend and hide behind my bible.

I pray to God we never become a religious state run by folks who claim to be of my faith, you people scare the heck out of me.

JESUS did NOT tell his followers to go and take over governments and make LAWS - he said to change the hearts of people and they would change without the need for such laws. He warned us about people like you - wolves in sheep's clothing, the whore of babylon (the perversion of religion).

He was right. You RW fundies have become the very thing you make millions on with books and movies. The real anti-christ is YOU and your ways.

Jesus died for dare speaking out against the very things you now do - he died because the conservatives would not accept a liberal view of faith.

You couldn't keep him in the ground then and you can't now - his words still ring true and condemn you and your ways.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:21 AM
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1. I'm a Deist now, but to what you said, "Amen!"
His teachings play a very significant part in forming my own moral code.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:35 AM
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2. I have been an atheist, agnostic, buddhist, and more
And all those beliefs taught me a lot - but they especially taught me to see the NT in a new light.

Love, Love, Love - it's the one message that is cast aside with so many. Take care of each other, use whatever power you have in this life to make the life of someone else better, etc and so on.

Jesus was tempted and could have used his power to control things - which is what was expected by many of the messiah (come in, kill the enemy and so on).

Jesus came along and pointed out that the enemy was not so much the Romans, but those who perverted the faith for their own ends and power.

It took me a long time to learn that, and I used to be a RW fundie. Finally though the message got through to me that I was the problem - and I saw that most clearly when my mom died. She was a christian but accepted people for who they were all those years. She was kind and good to everyone and they did not have to pass a litmus test.

If nothing else, my mom's life showed me what it really meant to be a Christian - she did not go to church much, didn't read her bible all day long, but she sure as hell helped other people all she could.
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:44 AM
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4. Those are some wonderful words about your mother...
My parents both have a deep deep faith, and they raised me to believe in love and peace and tolerance and charity. They still go to church every week, though they have struggled with many of the hypocrisies that abound there.

I grew up surrounded by a loving Catholic community of very liberal and very peaceful people; many of them (my parents and their friends) are now retired and do a great deal of good works -- my father works tirelessly for the homeless in his community, and my mom and stepdad have started a non-profit to bring education to children in Africa. They are not perfect, nor do they pretend to be. They practice their faith quietly in their daily lives; to meet them, you might not notice their faith because they don't flaunt it, it's just there, in the way they live on this Earth. That's true faith.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:53 AM
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7. And ya know, there is something in what you said that just bothers me
I know fundies, my sister and dad for example, who are as kind as can be to many many others and are as liberal as can be to people.

But when it comes to politics they side with the republicans... WTF?

And what do they fear about liberals? Gays, more freedoms for people, liberal education (sex ed, etc), and so on.

They want a conservative country while being liberal in their own lives, out of fear about how god will judge us....

I just don't get it sometimes :)
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:52 AM
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6. I am a Christian....
I have been since birth, and more importantly, on into the years during which I could - and did - question all matters of faith. It has been an incredible journey, no less than any other who has claimed multiple religions as their own along the way, IMHO.

So for what my lone liberal Christian voice matters, I applaud your post from the heart.

:applause:
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:59 AM
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8. If there is one thing I learned from studies of other faiths
It was to look even deeper into my own.

After reading much on Buddhism I found myself reading the bible on a much higher level.

I left my own faith because I just did not grasp what it was saying, it took the words and works of others in other faiths to help me to see the light.

Peace, love, and kindness. Humankind keeps kicking those ideals to the curb. And yet every faith, and even those with no faith, all preach that same basic thing.

They all warned us about those who don't believe in peace and love. Sadly, some people just won't listen.
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:35 AM
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3. Thanks...
Well-written, and I agree...

Amazing that the Repubs co-opted Jesus (a liberal if there ever was one) and made hypocrisy of his words. If you choose to believe in Jesus, you know that Jesus was a peacemaker, not a warmonger.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:46 AM
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5. kick
Kick
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zehnkatzen Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 03:23 AM
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9. Well said. K&R.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 03:35 AM
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10. Take one look at these moneychangers stinking up the temple, and kick some serious ass.
Just sayin.
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Cornus Donating Member (720 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 06:35 AM
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11. He would also do this...
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 09:36 AM
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12. "What DID Jesus do?" is a much better question.
I've grown to despise that question, "What would Jesus do?" because the people who ask it (NOT referring to the OP here) almost always fantasize that Jesus would do whatever their own lowest passions want. In almost all cases, what Jesus actually did, such as the many things listed in the OP, are exact opposites of what the religious wackos fantasize.
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pingzing58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 10:30 AM
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13. Great post The Striaght Story. You are on the noble path as I hope we are all. nt
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 12:25 PM
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14. K&R for powerful, straight to the point observations. n/t
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 06:38 PM
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15. What can Jesus do? Answer:
nothing.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 06:41 PM
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16. And in his most violent act,
he would throw the money changers out of the temple.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 06:42 PM
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17. Nuke Iran!
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AnExtremist Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 06:43 PM
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18. What Would Jesus Do?
Being the Son of God he'd probably foresee the bush administration today and say, "Father, take this bitter cup from my lips." :D
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