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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:20 AM
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Why Does Gonzo Stay - Honest Question
Consider how humiliating it must have been for him yesterday. Consider that he can not possibly be an effective tool for the expansion of Bush's authority in the Justice Department anymore, he has outlived his usefulness. Consider that every day he stays in his high office the risk of actual imprisonment increases. So why does he stay? What future does he expect to materialize in which his position is better standing beside Bush than resigned and gone.

Some of the possible answers are scary.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:22 AM
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1. He stays because his boss wants him to.
Nothing will change that.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:24 AM
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2. He was Bush's PERSONAL attorney. He "knows too much."
If I were him, I'd be scared shitless to leave. No one ever leaves The Family. He'll be run off a dark road late at night, or his plane will do a Wellstone. He's doing the only thing he CAN do...stonewall like hell and hope to God he'll get the Scooter treatment in exchange for his loyalty.

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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:25 AM
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3. I seriously believe he has yet to be embarrassed or humiliated
He shares his conservative values on a daily basis, lies, ignorance, arrogance, incompetence. I believe conservative republicans are trained to accept and be proud of those traits. Otherwise they might be considered liberal and who would want that. I can't think of any other reason; except pictures of him with little boys that cheney owns. And even if that is the case, pedophilia is just another conservative value.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:34 AM
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9. republicon values: "ignorance, arrogance, incompetence"
Gigadittoes, you nailed it Boss....This truth needs to become a meme -- a monster meme.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:55 AM
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17. You said it beautifully.
Embarrassment is something that only singes them when they get caught at something big enough to knock 'em back a few notches.

Introspection is not something to be condoned or tolerated and must be avoided like syphilis or madams with record keeping. It can turn you gay and make you worry about the gnawing pain in some kid's belly as he faces his third day with nothing to eat.
Introspection turns your knees to water because it makes you face your closet full of snakes and an honest self appraisal will not let you off the hook-ever-and marks the beginning of that other nasty trait that replaces the carrot and stick...a conscience.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:28 AM
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4. The ego of royalty
The peasants they rule over are beneath them.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:31 AM
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5. He's The Master Of Distraction
The topic isn't torture or illegal wiretapping or the USA purge, it's all about Gonzo now. While he's ground zero on all these scandals, the more people focus on him the less they look at the consequences of his crimes and the more time this regime has to continue its plundering. This dude is out there purposely being the class clown to throw wrenches in the work of the Congress and make a sham of the Constitution.

If there's anyone who deserves to be impeached now...and Democrats and Independents should rally for...it's Gonzo...and even then that's too lienent of a treatment. He not only needs to be expelled out of government service NOW, but then prosecuted for his lies.

Criminals don't give a shit about what happens when they get caught, they always think they're smarter than the rest of us. Gonzo's no different...and I'd love to see Leahy take up Specter's offer on a Special Investigator to dig up the specific crimes of just not Gonzo but many others (most who can't be impeached) who have turned our Executive branch into the mafia.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:33 AM
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6. The guy truly likes Bush and is deeply loyal to him
When he left the investigation he probably felt proud about being the main character fighting against nasty Dems in defense of his good fried Bush.
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:33 AM
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7. Confirmation hearings for a replacement would be worse
for the Repubs than just leaving him sitting there.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:34 AM
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8. Moral tunnel vision?

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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:34 AM
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10. I don't think he was humiliated...
and looked on the whole affair with contempt-- the panel got the answers they deserved, and maybe even a bit more.

Gonzo personifies the arrogance the entire adminitration has. Remember the small businessman who went to a meeting with Shrub to talk about his problems and Shrub did all the talking? The guy left shaking his head that not only wouldn't Shrub bother to listen, but he had most of it wrong.

Humiliation implies the ability to question oneself, and they do not have that ability.

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Cogito ergo doleo Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:35 AM
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11. Honestly, too, he didn't seem at all humiliated, also frightening.
I looked for humiliation and I didn't see it. Maybe it was because I saw the hearing online and didn't get a good look at his face, but I couldn't help thinking if it were me I'd be under the table chewing on my shoestrings. He's so glib, so incredibly numb it seems to matters of the Constitution and the outcome of all of this to the United States and not one discernible ounce of humility. I have no idea why he stays. I have no idea why any of them are still around, or why they haven't been impeached.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:36 AM
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12. Why does the Dutch boy keep his finger in the dike? It's the flood that will ensue
if someone who enforces the laws of the nation takes his place. Imagine how many would have to resign the same day!!

That flood will drown him with Bush and Cheney, because his legal opinions are part of the matter under investigation.

Cart and horse (or jackass) might be a good analogy too, except that a jackass can cross the wrong bridge without a cart!
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 09:27 AM
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23. I think the "average" American is still hampered
by the notion that "This is AMERICA!!! Nothing like a criminal takeover of our government could EVER happen here"!!!
The horrible reality of what is Really happening to our country still has great difficulty penetrating this mind-set, although, over time, and as the evidence mounts, many are finally coming to the harsh realization of what is going on. I just hope the Great Awakening comes sooner than later.

:scared:
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:39 AM
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13. He is one of the top thugs in the Cabal
He is in charge of Law enforcement, what better job for a major criminal to have? People just don't seem to understand the US Government has been taken over by a criminal enterprise and they have run roughshod over all that was once considered sacred. We don't seem to have any Alan Ladds or John Waynes or Jimmy Stewerts to wear the white hat and be our heroes. Black Bart and his crew is seemingly in complete control and American Justice has been tied to the train tracks..
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:39 AM
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14. He strikes me as thoroughly corrupt
He expects to be pardoned if it comes to that - or protected in some way.

He also strikes me as terribly proud and very arrogant. Gonzales didn't seem humiliated to me - he seemed put off and annoyed that he was even having to tolerate Congress. Though he was offended by the suggestion that he couldn't do the job.


If it is decided by Bush Inc that Gonzales should resign then he will...course, his pride might get in the way and I think Congress should play on his pride...Gonzales objects to being thought of as incompetent - it's a visceral objection and one that should be exploited.


Just some random thoughts I had yesterday will watching him...
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alkaline9 Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:42 AM
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15. He is there to shield *Bush, and allow him to get away with (literally) murder
He will see NO jail time ever. He will be given a full pardon for all crimes past and present before chimp leaves office. He is doing his job to block the other branches of gov't from getting in *Bush's way. Scary that none of the other branches (namely legislative) have brought this travesty of our constitution into the light.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:48 AM
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16. ag the ag is a loyal henchman to the 'decider'.............
even if he is thrown under the bus, ag will remain loyal. BOTH are nutcases.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:56 AM
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18. Gonzo Stays Because he is Bush's First Line of Defense
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 08:59 AM
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19. 'cause he is neck deep in all the bushco* illegalities
staying lets him think he has some say in what happens next. the gonzo gives me the impression he will fight to the end but when he does go down he'll take them all with him, to the point where they won't allow him to live to see conviction, gonzo is a real stab'em in the back kinda guy
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 09:04 AM
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20. I am afraid he stays because he believes Bush will remain in power
And he plans to be right there at the head of the ruling table.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 09:06 AM
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21. He knows too much and Bush needs that position
If somebody competent were there, Bush et al would be waist deep in trouble. Actually, they would be in over their heads.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 09:17 AM
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22. "Humiliation" is not in their lexicon. "Money" and "Power" are the sole entries.
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