Rush, Malkin adopt Jared Townsend of Clio and his "baby" assault rifle. Cool, make him your America

[Faygo Kid]

Heard Rush today briefly (he was exceptionally nuts and incoherent, even for him) and see that he and Michelle Malkin (http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZTVmNGI0MmVmMDFlYmZiODdhYzM4ZjIwYjhlNDU3MTk=) are in a tizzy about Joe Biden ridiculing Jared of Clio and his "baby" question regarding his rifle. All I can say is that please, please, please adopt Jared as your representative American who is picked on by the mean Dems.

Hate to tell them this, but the gun control argument is not what's at play here - all but the 25 percent hard-core Bush supporters DO think Jared is nuts, or at least a legitimate subject for ridicule. (His "baby?" Good grief). So, make Jared the Symbol of the Republican Party; a person who America is supposed to identify with.

And go down in flames. Thank You!

(by the way, know-it-all Rush, it's ClIo, not ClEEo, you ignorant piece of crap.)

[BOSSHOG]

1. Its right there in the second amendment

every American will be armed with at least two loaded assault rifles and a trunk full of hand grenades, all for safety's sake. And Wal-Mart will sell loaded handguns at the checkouts just in case some motherfucker pisses you off in the parking lot. Just like Mr Madison intended.

[Faygo Kid]

2. I'm short of a grenade or two. Luckily, I know where to shop in Clio, just outside of Flint.

Yes, that Flint.

[Tyler Durden]

43. On behalf of the Mid-Michigan area, I would like to apologise for the nutbags in Clio.

Not ALL residents of Clio are nutbags, but since I've seen at least 2 episodes of American Justice where the nutbag rapist/child molester/serial killer/what have you are from Clio, I have to figure those folks need some help.

[BOSSHOG]

50. No need my friend

I am quite confident that there are nutbags in every community. I'm in South Mississippi, land of dog fighting, cock fighting, meth labs, confederate flags, klan rallys and free DNA testing so our little girls can find out who their babies daddy's are.

[eleny]

3. Townsend probably made Rush horny

God knows what Malkin is thinking. Her brain rolls around in her head like a hot marble.

[madinmaryland]

4. Is that guy Ann Coulter's lover?

:scared:

[Faygo Kid]

6. "Ann Coulter" and "lover" in the same sentence makes my blood run cold.

What if it was to breed?

[blondeatlast]

11. Can't be her--the bbobs and butt are too curvy. OTOH, having Detroit

between her legs, well...

:rofl:

[Faygo Kid]

26. Wait a minute, I was born in Detroit! This is going too far. . .

Now you're going too far, in putting my beloved Motown between Ann's sweaty thighs (EEEWWWWW! - who knows what else you might find there??)

[blondeatlast]

33. My bad--I should have said Daimler-Chrysler (I hope that helps...) nt

[Faygo Kid]

35. Tragically, I will not sleep well tonight. The image is too horrific and compelling.

Let this be on your head. (Or another part of your anatomy. I am series. This is hugh.)

[DBoon]

59. The home of Iggy Pop and the MC5 have nothing to do with her

nt

[spanone]

5. not surprised one bit....those folks are fairly insane.

[TahitiNut]

7. Jared is less than 67 miles from Hell.

:evilgrin:

[aikoaiko]

8. Biden was very rude to the goofy guy with a gun.

As usual the right will use Democratic prejudice against gun owners and certain guns to their advantage.

[Faygo Kid]

10. I don't think he was rude - he called it as he saw it. "Baby," about a weapon?

I think there are plenty out there who don't think using the term "Baby" to describe a rifle is evidence of the highest level of thinking.

[aikoaiko]

39. I am stunned you would exploit US war casualities to make a point on a different subject.

:shrug:

[alarimer]

13. Oh, please

The guy was completely loony tunes. Frankly a grown man that calls his gun (or any other inanimate object but most especially guns) "baby" is a few bricks shy of a load and, should not be allowed to own guns. Biden was correct in that.

[aikoaiko]

40. Criminals, mentally insane and people who give cute names to guns should be banned...

How utterly ridiculous. Biden should have said that unless he was prohibited by law from owning that gun, he will protect his right to own it.

[alarimer]

58. Cute names? It was fucking sick and anyone that doesn't see that is delusional themselves

Biden was right. Jesus Christ I hate gun nuts. That guy was only one step away from going postal. Scary freak.

[aikoaiko]

60. Lots of people give cute names to prized possessions.

I am more afraid of people like you then him.

[Recursion]

57. In boot camp we had to give our rifle a woman's name

Mine was Mary Catherine. I still remember its serial number because, in one of the most bizarre coincidences of my life, it was also my phone number right before I enlisted. Eerie.

[Beaverhausen]

14. Goofy guy with a gun? Did you see that 'gun'? no one needs a gun like that

unless they are in combat. Sorry, that guy was nuts and deserves every rude name in the book.

[rockymountaindem]

15. What kind of gun was it? n/t

[slackmaster]

17. "Post-ban" semiautomatic AR-15 type sporting rifle

A type that was available even during the failed 10-year experimental "assault weapons" ban.

No collapsible stock, no bayonet lug, plain (unthreaded) muzzle, not even a flash suppressor.

[Beaverhausen]

18. "semi-automatic sporting gun." It's only "sport" if hunters aim at each other

why does a hunter need a semi? Give me a break.

[rockymountaindem]

19. But it's not illegal

and it's less deadly than some ordinary looking hunting rifles.

[Beaverhausen]

20. No one said it was illegal. I just think that's a whole lotta gun for anyone to own

but I'm against hunting for sport so there you go.

[slackmaster]

24. I take it you are not opposed to shooting at paper targets

My eye problem makes it impossible for me to use a bolt-action rifle effectively for that purpose or hunting.

The AR-15 is one of the most commonly used rifles in serious shooting matches. They can be configured for excellent accuracy. The availability of a wide range of parts and the ease of changing them makes it the most versatile rifle you can own.

[derby378]

32. But the Second Amendment says you still have the right to own it

I can't see where it mentions "hunters and sportsmen" anywhere in the Second Amendment. And for the record, I don't hunt for sport, either. Don't care that much for it. I could hunt for food, I'm sure, but not for pure sport.

[beevul]

38. Do you know what your saying?

What in your view makes it "a whole lotta gun for anyone to own"?

What can it do that other guns can't?

Is there any justification for further restriction of weapons such as the one you refer to?

[slackmaster]

23. I'm right-handed and left-eyed

I have to shoot left-handed, and can't work a right-handed bolt action rifle effectively. Left-handed bolt rifles are costly and scarce, and most models are not available in southpaw versions.

Shooting became much more fun when I bought my first semiautomatic rifle, a Ruger 10/22. I bought my first AR-15 when the state of California started talking about banning them.

[aikoaiko]

41. I have a similar gun. I use it for target practice and keep it handy at home for self-defense.

Thank you very much. Fortunately, my State's and Federal law, as well as the Constitution, allows me to have such a gun.

[Recursion]

48. That kind of gun would be pretty bad for combat

The gun it looks like, the M-16, is capable of fully automatic (or, at least, burst-mode) firing, which is necessary when you're laying down covering fire. The rifle he held up is just semi-auto, and fires a much smaller round than more traditional-looking rifles that (for whatever reason) don't seem to scare people so much.

[cynatnite]

16. Everyone who cradles their gun and calls it their baby are normal...

:eyes:

If he had stood up with the weapon and asked about gun rights like a normal person would have, my guess is that most here wouldn't have a beef about it.

[slackmaster]

21. I'll tell you how I would have made my video gun control question

"Hello. I'm slackmaster of San Diego, California.

As a federally licensed collector of curio and relic firearms, I am concerned about bill HR.1022 introduced by Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy of New York.

The bill, which has 51 co-sponsors, all Democrats by the way, is far more than a reauthorization of the expired assault weapons ban. It would classify as an assault weapon this World War II M1 Garand rifle, which I acquired from the Civilian Marksmanship Program last year. This particular one was loaned to the nation of Greece, and returned in excellent condition after the war ended.

If passed, HR.1022 would make it illegal for me to sell this rifle, give it to someone as a gift, or bequeath it to my heirs. It would become a crime for me to allow anyone under 18 to shoot or even handle it. My financial investment in it and several other old rifles I own would vaporize. I am 49 years old and consider my gun collection a part of my retirement savings. I keep them locked in this safe (pointing to big safe) to protect them against fire and theft.

Use of this type of rifle in crime is unheard of. They are owned by target shooters, hunters, war veterans, and history buffs like me. I see no benefit to public safety in stigmatizing a historic rifle like this one.

If you were President and HR.1022 or a similar bill reached your desk, what would you do, and why?"

[cynatnite]

22. Obviously you're a gun nut lunatic...

:P

That's I would have preferred to see it done.

[slackmaster]

25. Thanks, after seeing that Bozo I really wish I had done it

:argh:

[aikoaiko]

46. I wish you had Slack, but CNN probably wouldn't have chosen you

Remember, this is the news agency that chose to show full auto rifles when discussing the "Assault Weapons Ban".

[slackmaster]

53. Is there a news agency that HASN'T done that?

I specifically remember CBS and NBC doing the same thing.

[kineneb]

27. good one

as I hug the antique Winchester I inherited from my grandfather, (circa 1915, complete with saddle ring)... it was the only hunting rifle he had that didn't have a fancy scope sight.

[slackmaster]

28. What did your grandfather name his rifle?

;)

I wish I had a nice old American lever-action like that. The prices on authentic ones are going through the roof.

[kineneb]

30. don't know

I don't remember him naming any of his tools, whether shop tools, cars, guns or otherwise. However, sometimes they would cause him to issue a string of explicatives in their direction when they didn't do what he wanted.

I like the Winchester because it is low-tech, simple, and works. If you ever get/shoot one, be careful about the cartridge ejection spring. They wear out and cause the spent cartridge to get jammed on the way out. (sorry about non-technical terminology, I forget the precise names of some of the parts...need to go out and punch holes in paper sometime)

[Blue_Tires]

54. well said

maybe you can ask it (or something related) for a future youtube debate?

[aikoaiko]

42. Actually, there are plenty of people in DU would still have a beef with him having that gun

even if he was as eloquent as MLK.

[Paladin]

29. And As Usual.....

....when there's an opportunity to trash a Democratic office-seeker, our resident Gun Dungeon "Democrats" will align themselves with the ugliest-possible company, down to and including right-wing pieces of filth like Limbaugh and Malkin. When you make common cause with unspeakable company like that, why should any of we Real World Democrats pay you any mind? Let me solve the mystery for you: We shouldn't.

Looking forward to the standard "Even A Stopped Clock Is Right Twice A Day" bullshit response......

[slackmaster]

31. So, are you a Biden supporter Paladin?

[jillan]

34. Yesterday Rush praised Biden's performance. Was too embarassed to post that here.

Now today he is trashing him?

Is Limpo a flip-flopper? lol!

Who gives a shit what those two think.

[Paladin]

56. I Like Biden Pretty Well, Since You're So Interested

But you don't have to be a 110% Biden backer to feel like his response to this brain-dead Gun Drooler was perfectly appropriate. Face it, Slack: One douchebag like that on national TV cancels out by a hundredfold the oh-so-earnest efforts of you, BenEzra, and the rest of the I Have A Buncha Guns But I'm Pretty Much Normal posse here at DU......

[slackmaster]

62. Biden's response was completely inappropriate

Let's stipulate that the gun guy is mentally ill, which is basically what Biden was saying. Suppose that rather than, let's call it a neurotic obsession with firearms, he had some other condition of similar severity, like obsessive cleanliness. Say he was like Jack Nickolson's character in the movie As Good As It Gets, fanatically washing his hands and avoiding touching everything.

Suppose his question was "What are you going to do to about the problem of germs in public places?" And Biden replied "If you're that concerned with germs, you need help."

Would the people who are saying Biden's reply was appropriate in the actual debate be saying the same thing? No, they'd be chiding him for being insensitive to a person who has real problems.

Let's cut through the sanctimonious bullshit and spell out the subtext here: Senator Biden hates guns and gun owners. It's not just a rational concern for public safety. Biden has a real chip on his shoulder. No reasonable person publicly makes fun of a mentally ill person. The truth is Biden doesn't think the guy is crazy, Biden hates him because he's a gun owner.

The questioner is probably a harmless eccentric with a mild obsession. He's probably a little rebellious like me and a lot of other people who don't like being told what they can and cannot do. Frankly, I never owned an AR-15 rifle until the California state legislature started talking about banning them.

Biden is bigoted, intolerant, and undeserving of the Democratic party's nomination.

[beevul]

36. And As Usual...

You are blinded by your beliefs about guns. Its not trashing anyone if its true, and in this case it IS true.

Biden WAS rude to the guy.

Say he acted the same way toward someone in the context of supporting choice, or same sex marriage...

Would it have been equally as acceptable to you?

I understand your view of guns, and gun owners.

But take a step back and look at his actions for what they were. No matter the topic, a reaction like his is just plain bad. And as the poster you were replying to quite correctly eluded to...it will be used against Biden, and against the party.


Is that just fine by you? Do you have such a negative view of guns and gun owners that the damage improper handling of the issue causes is acceptable to you?

[aikoaiko]

44. Biden could have and should have said this....

"Unless Jared or anyone is prohibited by law to possess such a gun, yes, I will protect your right to own it." Not even an anti-gun moron could be opposed to such a statement.

That would have been professional, Democratic, and good for the party.

[Warren DeMontague]

55. I stopped listening to what Biden had to say after his idiotic RAVE act.

Uncle Bobo says, "that guy can fuck off"

[Sparkly]

65. I really liked Biden's remarks to that question.

i didn't see it as "prejudice against gun owners" at all.

[slackmaster]

67. OK, shall we call it "making fun of a disabled person"?

Either Biden thought the guy was mentally ill or not. If so, he tried to publicly humiliate a man with a disability. And if not, his reply showed hatred.

[RamboLiberal]

9. Guess what Rush and Malkin right now the guy is leaning to

Barack Obama - or at least that's what he is claiming. And IMHO Biden again ran his mouth when he should've kept it shut. But I also blame CNN - they damn well knew that particular video would be inflammatory. I'd bet there were more "reasoned" questions on gun control.

Perhaps that's why Townsend, who has never missed an opportunity to vote, according to his parents, doesn't toe either party line.

"I don't consider myself a Democrat or Republican," he said. "I vote for who I like."

And at the moment, he likes Sen. Barack Obama.

"He's not afraid to make a move and go for it," Townsend said of the senator from Illinois.

http://www.mlive.com/printer/printer.ssf?/base/news-45/1185373252177060.xml&coll=5&thispage=3

[blondeatlast]

12. Yeah, of all the questions regarding the issue they chose that one.

I actually liked that format for the most part but a couple of the questions, like that one and the "make nice" one were just stupid and designed for entertainment only.

[JacquesMolay]

37. Ship 'em all off to Montana...

... they should have fun out there

[KingFlorez]

45. The 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with loony comments

The man said something odd and Biden commented on it, I don't see what the big deal is, but once again right-wing nuts make something out of nothing.

[slackmaster]

64. Biden's response showed a lack of self-discipline, he displayed his true colors

He's a hot-head who is incapable of the kind of diplomacy needed for real leadership.

[MisterP]

47. hmm, was his baby called Charlene?

[butterfly77]

49. What will they be saying if this nut..

goes and shoots up some school?

[aikoaiko]

51. Did Richardson also respond to the gun control question? Link?

I didn't see the debate -- I've only seen the youtube vid of the question and Biden response. But I just read that Richardson had responded first. Does anyone have a youtube link for richardson's response?

[aikoaiko]

52. Compare Richardson's response to Biden's

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sjsxQy0xYUs

Richardson was much more reasonable and something I could support. Of course, he was not rude to the gun owner and not particularly pithy in his answer, but he gave a good response.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

61. I somewhat expected his prop in his question

When I first saw the question, from the looks of the guy I pretty much figured he would use some sort of gun as a prop in his question. However, what I was expecting was for him to pull out a hunting rifle, or maybe a small handgun one may keep in his dresser drawer for protection.

I was not expecting him to pull out an automatic assault rifle.

I'm sorry, there's just no excuse as to why someone (other than a man in uniform) needs an automatic assault rifle. It's just so gratitious and unnecessary.

Imagine if it had been Seung-Hui Cho on that video. Didn't the news eventually stop showing his home video of him brandishing his guns?

[slackmaster]

63. The rifle is semiautomatic, not automatic.

You have been duped by propaganda.

[beevul]

66. Ya been had.

"The semi-automatic weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons — anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun — can only increase that chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons." — Josh Sugarman, 1988, Violence Policy Center.

Ya been had.