I committed an act of vandalism today

[Toots]

I saw a bumper sticker that said "Abortion stops a beating heart".. I took a marker and crossed out abortion and wrote in War and I crossed out a and added an s after heart. I don't feel terrible about it either. I did not put a mark on the vehicle, just the sticker..

[MissB]

1. I don't suggest repeating that act.

Respect an individual's property. You can still ridicule their viewpoints.

[malaise]

2. Love it n/t

[Madspirit]

3. k&r

You will probably be chastised by some but I say...Go You! Right on. This person wants to stop my beating heart because if I had not been able to have an abortion I would have committed suicide.
Lee

[TomInTib]

8. So very well put, Madspirit.

All too often, the woman whose life was 'saved' by the choice she made is left out of the discussion.

[TomInTib]

4. Good for you!

I hope they don't notice until twenty or so people flash peace signs at them.

[dkofos]

5. Your'e BUSTED. Off to the Hague with you.

Did you take a picture for us??
I would have.

[goodgd_yall]

69. LOL! n/t

[stirlingsliver]

6. I Don't Like It

I have had my progressive bumper stickers defaced by freeptards and pukes.

And I don't like it.

No one does.

[Swamp Rat]

7. Report to the nearest re-education center.

:spank:

[TahitiNut]

9. Don't be a Vandal, Hun.

:silly:

[chaska]

10. snicker

[roody]

11. Good on you!

[tammywammy]

12. So, it's okay if a republican

writes on your bumper stickers too, right?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

13. No.

Democrats are right. Republicans are wrong.

:shrug:

[Posteritatis]

51. Dems are allowed to vandalize? Awesome! *scampers off with glee* (nt)

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

54. Nobody's allowed to vandalize.

But just because it's not allowed doesn't mean it's not right.

:thumbsup:

[Toots]

15. If my bumpersticker is hypocritical then yes....

:shrug:

[tammywammy]

16. How was that hypocritical?

Abortion does stop a beating heart. :shrug:

I mean did they also have an "I love killing people" sticker too?

[dorkulon]

23. It's a pretty big assumption that all pro-lifers support the war.

It's not a foregone conclusion. Either way, this is just what you said: vandalism. The 1st amendment applies to everyone, douchebag. Otherwise, you're just another hypocrite.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

32. Well if he/she doesn't support the war..

then he/she won't be too upset.

:shrug:

[dorkulon]

33. You sure about that?

I have a feeling the defacement alone would piss me off, even if someone scratched out a word and wrote the same damn word in.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

35. I suppose if he or she was an old grouch.

Getting upset over a bumpersticker is like getting all bent out of shape because some kids TPed your front lawn.

[dorkulon]

39. Well, it's not exactly a shooting offense.

Still, on principle I think it's wrong. And I think you'd have a different view if someone changed your "no blood for oil" sticker to to "no blood for abortion" or something.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

40. Yeah, and on principal, pro-life is wrong.

Vandalism's trivial by comparison.

:nopity:

[Maine-ah]

73. pro-life is not wrong. We're all pro-life

anti-choice is wrong.

[Lilith Velkor]

56. Fine by me, I'm carless

HA ha!

[cynatnite]

14. So you performed an act of censorship...

of course if someone had done something similar to your bumper sticker, you would have been on here ranting and raving over it. You should feel horrible about it and because you don't tells me the kind of person you are.

[Catherine Vincent]

17. You should never touch another person's car.

They could have punched you.

[galileo3000]

18. Congratulations on your revenge against the sticker

Maybe you will get lucky and next time it will escalate into violence proving you were justified.

[John Kerry VonErich]

75. I bet that's whats gonna happen next

nt

[hootinholler]

19. I used to carry a stack of stickers with a picture of a screw on them...

The target was bumper stickers reading I heart my German Shepherd, or whatever breed.

Changed it to I screw ...

-Hoot

[tammywammy]

21. Why?

Why would you do something so juvenile?

[corkhead]

24. because it's funny?

:shrug:

[tammywammy]

27. Well, then "it's funny" that makes it okay

:eyes:

[corkhead]

29. oh lighten up. I am assuming he used a non permanent adhesive on his sticker that's easily removabl...

man, everybody is grumpy here this week.
anyway...
:hi:

[hootinholler]

38. Because I was a (wait for it)

Juvenile at the time?

:rofl:

We do learn sometimes.

-Hoot

[tammywammy]

43. Okay then

as long as it wasn't last week. :)

But there are "adults" on here that are proud of their vandalism. :shrug:

[hootinholler]

46. I was in the Navy at the time

A young pup of 19. I ordered them out of the back of a National Lampoon. It was fun to see how long they lasted.

:rofl:

-Hoot

[alcibiades_mystery]

37. That's just about as fuinny as can be

Nicely done!

The property fetishists will go nuts, no doubt.

[rucky]

78. I remember seeing those advertised in National Lampoon mag.

and wishing mom would give me the money to send out for a set.

[RedCappedBandit]

20. Sure hope you haven't got any stickers on your car..

[corkhead]

22. I put a swastika on a Poppy/Potatoehead billboard that was on a busy freeway back in '92

I used duct tape, so I didn't permanently damage the billboard. I do have a picture of it somewhere. I felt quite proud of it at the time, but I am ambivalent about it now. I also put the swastika on backwards. I wasn't up on my swastika etiquette. It stayed that way for about a week.

The damage those clowns do to my civil liberties is a higher crime in my opinion than the defacement, which was actually wrong.

In other words, they are more wrong than you so it's ok...?



:toast:

[Cheap_Trick]

25. this one time...

a friend and I rearranged the letters on a sign outside the local TG&Y (remember those?) from "Doll Baby Heads $1" to "Dead Baby Heads $1". good times, good times....

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

26. Well, You Should Actually Be Ashamed Of Yourself.

Not only is what you did criminal and childish, but it is also an attempt to squelch out someone else's right to free speech, no matter how much you disagree with it.

Nothing but condemnation for your acts here. I hope the person tracks you down and has you arrested. Seriously.

[matcom]

28. i'd be BULLSHIT if someone vandalized my property that way

why do people view politics as a fucking football game?

change hearts and minds with LOGIC and DEEDS

NOT vandalism

[RamboLiberal]

30. Don't do it again

Don't do to someone else's bumper sticker what you wouldn't want done to yours. Sorry, don't think it's right.

[FuJun]

31. I Support You...

Excellent direct action! Anti-abortion troglodytes don't deserve "free speech rights" and should be censored at every opportunity for all the suffering they have caused the women of the world.

[dorkulon]

36. Oh, that's brilliant.

Got any other groups of people you've decided don't deserve freedom of speech? Actually, I bet you have a few. How "democratic" of you. And why put quotation marks around "free speech rights" like that? Is freedom of speech some kind of joke to you?

[FuJun]

42. Reply...

I subscribe to the Marcusian view of "free speech". That should answer your question.

[dorkulon]

44. Yes it does.

You do think freedom of speech is a joke. I on the other hand, think you are a joke.

[FuJun]

50. Hmmm...

I don't think you understand the true nature of the class struggle which is occuring in our society.

[dorkulon]

58. I suppose I should be censored. nt

[Thothmes]

45. Censored

So the rights of the first Amendment to the Consitution is reserved for a select group of Citizens chosen by you?

[FuJun]

47. No...

Not by me, but by their own political affiliations.

[dorkulon]

52. Defined as political affiliations

which don't coincide with your own. You make what I consider the most egregious intellectual error possible--the ridiculous assumption that you are right about everything, and people who disagree with you can't possibly be smarter than you. I prefer to keep Socratic ignorance close to my heart. It's very possible we agree on most class issues, but the supression of opinion, no matter how stupid, I cannot abide.

[FuJun]

59. No...

Political affiliations/ideologies which are regressive, oppressive, exploitive and have caused incalculable damage to humanity. Criminal intellectual pathologies cultivated by the ruling class to perpetuate its power. I do not assume I am right about everything, I am human after all. But, the ideology I support, left/progressive, is without question more "right" than the right wing. How can you suggest otherwise?

[dorkulon]

60. What I'm suggesting

is that, although I certainly think I'm right, I could easily be wrong about anything, or even everything.

And where exactly are the limits on this suppression of speech? Do moderates get to talk in your world? Social Democrats? Fundamentalist Muslims? Would Orwell get to publish? Adam Smith? Chris Hitchens?

Sorry, but I don't trust you to filter my world. It strikes me that your view holds the seeds of the very oppression you oppose. Think Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin etc.

[FuJun]

62. I understand your point, but

I don't oppose oppression of the right wing and we need not be distracted by the false dichotomy of "falling into our own trap". The distinction between us and them is clear.

[dorkulon]

64. You seem determined to blur it.

I always thought that oppression of unpopular speech was one of the things that compelled me to oppose the right. I oppose the unfair advantages that money and the corporate oligarchy bring to right wing opinion, but I believe that if the playing field were levelled, the right wouldn't stand a chance, because our ideas are better. Censoring their opinions would only lend them legitimacy.

In other words, I do oppose oppression of the right wing. I am for beating them fair and square.

[qdemn7]

34. And if you did that to MY car

And I caught you at it, I'd call the police and have you arrested for vandalism. Seriously. :puke:

[pitohui]

41. ok i actually think this is pretty funny

i admit i wouldn't do it myself but not because i haven't thought about it, more because i don't want bubba to come out of the wallyworld and shoot me while i'm adjusting his bumper sticker

[jasmeel]

48. I did the same thing to a W sticker in Vegas. Using lip liner I

added ar after W 2004 so it said War 2004. I thought it was better truth in advertising. Not a lick of guilt.

[bigwillq]

49. Treat others how you want to be treated

Is a rule I like to live by whether they are freeps or not...I don't think you would think that was rather cool if someone did that to your bumper sticker. Forgive me for the lecture but that's what I believe. It is not cool to vandalize any body's property regardless of their political beliefs.
We are better than this.

[Toots]

61. I also believe that with all my heart

I will accept like in return. :shrug: I want what is right. I am not for abortion. In fact I dislike the idea of it very much. I am for a women's right to choose though. I realize I committed vandalism. That is how I began this thread. I don't defend my actions. I simply made a statement and it happened to be on their bumper sticker. I felt if they truly were "Pro-Life" they would have no objection to my alteration of their sticker. I am amazed my rambling got so many to reply though.

[cynatnite]

66. You can't justify vandalizing someone else's property no matter your good intentions...

If you want to make a statement do so on YOUR PROPERTY. Not someone else's.

[slackmaster]

53. Do you think you changed the heart or mind of the car's owner?

Or is it more likely that you pissed the person off and reinforced his or her negative view of "liberals"?

[TX-RAT]

72. I wonder!

I wonder how they would have felt had they been caught and the owner kicked the shit out of them? Then called the police.

Actually i like your response much better.

[Raejeanowl]

77. It Was the "Right" Sentiment Expressed the "Wrong" Way

OP, they had the right to express their belief, abhorrent though it may have been to you. You had no right to vandalize their display, which was posted on their property.

You want to make a statement about this, then get your own (opposing) bumper sticker. And hope no one writes on it.

Slackmaster, this just reminds me of the overly righteous groups going around vandalizing SUVs in the car lots. Now, believe what you want about environmentalism, but that's just unmitigated vandalism, and it makes environmental activists in general look like crazy zealots. Wonderful for credibility on the big issues, especially if it gets copycats doing it to personal vehicles. And it does.

You want to make a statement about earth-friendly cars, get a hybrid. And hope the guy who had to shell out a $500 deductible getting his vandalized SUV repaired (which he might not be able to afford to change right now) doesn't decide it looks like what the culprit who smashed his car drove.

[slj0101]

55. Hope it made you feel good. I'm sure it changed their opinion nada.

Vandalsim sucks, no matter who's doing it.

[AwakeAtLast]

57. Would you design that message on your own bumper sticker?

I think that is the better way to go. Sometimes good ideas come to us that quickly and we spontaneously act on them .

Now that you have a good message, get it out there! :hi:

[Zywiec]

63. Sounds like you're proud

You should be ashamed, but that's hard to come by around here these days. People just do whatever the fuck they feel like doing regardless of anyone else.

Sleep well

:eyes:

[Texasgal]

65. Stand proud,,,

:eyes:

Doing shit like that just undermines the whole intent.

Disgusting.

[nini]

67. This is why I don't put bumper stickers on my car

because people who disagree with me feel it's ok to change the message or worse yet, damage my car.

It's wrong when either side does it. God knows I've felt like doing what you did but I have enough self control to not touch another's property.

If someone here had a stop the war bumper sticker marked up this place would be going crazy - what's the difference?

[goodgd_yall]

68. No chastising here

If someone defaced a bumpersticker on my car, I'd go "Oh, shit" and get another sticker; I usually get mine free. Big fucking deal.

[John Kerry VonErich]

70. If you are gonna be that way and desperate.....

Do something that would actually make headline news. :think:

[Odin2005]

71. what was on the bumper sticker doesn't make the act any less wrong.

Vandalism is immoral no matter what, what you vandalize doesn't matter.

[datasuspect]

74. "Vandalism is immoral no matter what"

what if someone made a statue to commemorate child rape?

would it be immoral to vandalize that?

[Odin2005]

76. Yes.

Having a protest in order to get it taken down would be the right thing to do.

[VTMechEngr]

79. That wasn't smart.

It just justifies the wingnuts doing that to us.

[BlooInBloo]

80. Who keeps kicking these week-old threads?