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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 09:39 AM
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Norquist says Repubs could take back congress
But Bush has to stop talking about the war.

I know.. it's a pitiful source

Snip: Few people know as much about what is going on in Washington as Norquist. The White House and members of Congress trust him with their secrets. As outlined in the NewsMax article Washington's Big Secret, Norquist's Wednesday morning meetings of conservatives draw presidential candidates, key members of Congress, and White House aides like Karl Rove and Ed Gillespie.


snip: "The Democrats are overreaching on taxes, on spending, and general left-wing impulses," Norquist says. "Just as back then, there was the Hush-Rush Bill," referring to Rush Limbaugh. "Now there's the Fairness Doctrine. It's the same thing. As back then, the Democrats are raising gun control as an issue."

snip: Today, Norquist says, "You have an unease among a lot of non-political people, but the real cost of Iraq is not even so much that unease as the drowning out of other issues. We can't run against the Democrats — calling them the party that wants to raise taxes — if the president can only talk about Iraq."

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"Now the White House says they're going to be tough on vetoing," Norquist says. "So we could, in the next 12 months, have this huge fight on taxes and spending and regulations and labor union changes, driven by the White House, which could save the White House for the Republicans and bring at least the House back to Republican control. That is entirely possible. But Iraq needs to be in the rear view mirror, not in the windshield. And the president needs to be able to credibly talk about these other issues."

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/7/26/82548.shtml?s=al&promo_code=37A2-1
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 09:41 AM
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1. And that's about as likely as Norquist actually drowning in a bathtub n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 09:42 AM
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2. If only he would n/t
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:02 AM
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7. Imagine the ring of scum that he's left in the bathtub.
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 09:43 AM
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3. Man, I do NOT see how the Democratic congress can possibly be accused
of "overreaching". As for not talking about Iraq, the best way to achieve that is to get the fuck out; possibly Bathtub Boy can say how likely that is, if he's so damn knowledgeable about what's going on in DC.:eyes:
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 09:48 AM
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4. If the Republicans take back Congress...
...it won't be because the public desperately wants to eliminate Grover's taxes. It'll be because the media lied on every other point.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 09:53 AM
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5. It will be because the republicans cheated
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:01 AM
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6. The majority of the public no longer believes the media
They aren't taking back anything.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:02 AM
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8. And the sneaking snake in the grass rove
figured out a way to steal this election also. There is no way in hell the republicans could win in a FAIR ELECTION and they know it. They are desperately looking at rove and his swap slinkers to find a way to steal the election.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:10 AM
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9. Why do they still pay Norvy the big bucks?
he's pulling out the same tired old sorry talking points that he has been for the last 20 years. Wake up, Norv, this is NOT the 1980's anymore. People aren't afraid of welfare queens, taxes or labor unions. They know that the big bad Democrats are NOT going to take their guns away. Damn, talk about being stuck in the Reagan years!..:rofl:
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:15 AM
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10. Pay attntion to message even if you do not care for the
Messenger.

Newt is working 24-7 to get the Republicans back in control.
He has a passionate interest. After all it was Newt who engineered
the sudccessful rout of 1994, The Republicans will do everything
in their power to regain control. Newt has been visiting all
the states holding town halls.

He is hoping to pull a Sarcozy(France) for the Republicans.
Sarcozy was one of Chirac's Cabinet Ministers--somehow convincingly
distanced himself from Chirac and the party and won handily.
Newt is working such a plan for the Republicans.

All I am saying is the Democrats cannot let down their guard.
The country is divided. The Republicans are down but not
out.

We must work twice as hard.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:29 AM
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11. It's why I posted the article
If Iraq and terror suddenly take the back seat and the pretzledent starts talking about domestic issues, then this might indeed be one of their game plans.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:46 AM
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13. Republicans are on the wrong side of every domestic issue EOM
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:49 AM
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14. All you have to do is make the wrong side...
...the popular side. And that has been something at which the GOP has a considerable record of success.

2006 was a close, close election. The numbers in the House are impressive, but what was the total majority in the races that made up the difference?

People need to work hard, and run scared, right through December of '08.
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 12:50 PM
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15. Newt and Norquist have more to count on than a "Sarcozy" (but they'll never tell):
Edited on Thu Jul-26-07 01:22 PM by tiptoe
Election Fraud.

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Some Dems have busied themselves morphing their message and style since the loss to Reagan by landslide...e.g. "moving to the center"...when the ultimate factors determining "losses" have not been candidates' "message" but actually republicon-and/or-neocon mechanisms of election fraud, which have become systematic over the past few election cycles with the passage of HAVA (and public-money-funding of "safe harbor" "fraudulent voting systems") after Gore's "loss" in 2000 and after 9/11 "happened".

Kerry seems to have come around to entertaining a notion that the 2004 election was stolen only months after the fact, as per Mark Crispin Miller's account of a face-to-face with Kerry in 2005 (an info exchange, IIRC, Kerry originally denied).

Was there a White House plot to illegally suppress votes in 2004?
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:46 AM
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12. "And our crown jewel mechanisms for election fraud need continue to be in place..."
(He didn't really say that...)



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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 12:53 PM
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16. The new congress does have low ratings with the public right now.
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