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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:25 AM
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General faces demotion in Tillman case
He's being "demoted" because he bungled his PR work.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070726/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/tillman_punishment_2;_ylt=AoavImJcGI0ydRGWM306PQ4E1vAI

WASHINGTON - Army Secretary Peter Geren is expected to recommend that a retired three-star general be demoted for his role in providing misleading information about the death of Army Ranger Pat Tillman, military officials say, in what would be a stinging and rare rebuke.

Lt. Gen. Philip Kensinger, who headed Army special operations, is one of six high-ranking Army officers expected to get official reprimands for making critical errors in reporting the circumstances of Tillman's purported friendly-fire shooting in Afghanistan in April 2004.

The officials requested anonymity because the punishments under consideration by Geren have not been made public. The Army said that no final decisions have been made, and that once they are and the Tillman family and Congress have been notified, there will be an announcement sometime next week.

Geren also is considering issuing a letter of censure to Kensinger, who is receiving the harshest punishment of those involved in what has become a three-year controversy that triggered more than half a dozen investigations. Five other officers, including three generals, are expected to be issued less severe letters criticizing their actions.

Army officials opted not to impose harsher punishments, which could have included additional demotions, dishonorable discharges or even jail time. One senior officer, Lt. Gen. Stanley McChrystal, commander of the Joint Special Operations Command, escaped punishment.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:26 AM
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1. Another casualty of this f'n war.
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:27 AM
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2. One bad apple
Phew! That was easy. The system works. Now let's move on.
:sarcasm:
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:34 AM
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3. Being busted to a "Two Star General" is not a punitive act to me
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:37 AM
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5. Ironically, it's PR to cover the failure of previous PR.
I have long ago given up on being surprised by the antics of the brass and/or politicians to cover their asses.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:41 AM
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7. I always chuckle when I hear someone in the military was "fired."
They aren't fired, just reassigned, usually a notch or two further away from the Peter Principle, in other words an easier job.

I saw it up close and personal for 20+ years.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:35 AM
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4. Will it make a difference in his pay? MAYBE NOT!!!!
Depending on how they do it--if they don't attach any dishonor to his service--he could end up keeping his salary, because he's under the old system in terms of pay, not a high three-er or a high fiver. Also, if you're in long enough, there's less and less difference between the paygrades--time in service in the upper ranks smooth out those differences.

It could well end up being a "Letter of Instruction" and no demotion. If I were that guy, I'd threaten to sing like a fucking canary if I were him. You know he knows where a few bodies are buried. It could well be he's the guy who told Bush that Tilman didn't die the way we thought he did...and that's why he's being punished, because he couldn't keep a lid on it, like he "should have."

They're all baaaastids....
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:38 AM
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6. Does The WH Think That This Will Twart The Upcoming Investigation On This?.....
are they making this General take the rap for someone in the WH?
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