I To Must Say Goodbye My Friend......

[rsmith6621]

Not To DU......Dont Be Silly......but to a friend whom I have done business with for over 20 years. This friend has owned one of the best diners in the state of Washington. Last week my wife and I took an opportunity to use an invitation to see his new location and have dinner...as we were waiting for dinner to get to our table my friend invited us on a tour the place it is certainly state of the art kitchen and the enviorment is simply spectacular.....while my wife and I were eating she asked me where the dishwasher/dryer was located at.....good question dear so I asked my friend he said it isn't located on the premises but he has outsourced it to a third party......he then took me back to a staging area where there were several racks with large tubs......he said they come by each night and pick up all the dirty dishes and return them clean in the morning at a cost of $200 dollars per 500 settings....sadly the place is known to hire illegal immigrants(Koreans and Mexicans but is overlooked,these people are paid min wage.

Yes I respect his desire to max profits but only when it benefits others who can benefit as well that are lawful workers I told him he should rethink his current plan or at least the company who provides this service and that success is not always measured by the bottom line.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Outsourced DISHWASHING??

Damn!

[KittyWampus]

6. Restaurants must have special dishwashing machines that reach certain temp etc.

they are large machines that some kitchens might not have space for.

Especially if that kitchen has several stations for various preparations and courses.

[BonnieJW]

13. That is very true; however,

the restauranteur should ensure that the company to which he is outsourcing is compliant with all labor laws.

[MADem]

8. Think about it--no employee costs, reduced WATER costs, reduced electricity costs...and if anyone

gets SICK, blame it on the dishwashing company!!!!

I'm amazed it hasn't happened sooner.

It's gotta be a net profit for the company, otherwise, they wouldn't do it.

[Warpy]

9. It makes sense

because a large dishwashing facility devoted to that alone is going to be able to buy a lot of automated equipment to do the job quickly and cheaply. The restaurant is saved the necessity of installing a scaled down industrial conveyor type dishwasher. They also save a fortune in water and sewer bills, plus have a lot less to fish crap out of when it all clogs up from the cig filters from butts squashed into the mashed potatoes.

It's not just the labor, it's the equipment.

The minimum wage needs to be raised to a subsistence level and employers need to be fined for exploiting any worker with a below subsistence wage. When that happens, the preference for illegal labor will disappear.

I don't blame anyone for avoiding an establishment that exploits illegals, though. Until the laws are changed, that's all we can do.

[Mythsaje]

16. This is Washington

There are no butts squashed into the mashed potatoes. No smoking in restaurants, period.

[KittyWampus]

18. okay, then empty Equal packets (speaks from daily experience)

;)

[havocmom]

2. outsourcing the dishwashing?

One wonders what sort of liability issues that might bring up if a patron or twelve gets a bug or something.

[KittyWampus]

3. we had a resturant here for many years. Our dishwashing machines were 'grandfathered' in

if we wanted to restart a resturant business here again, among the many things we'd have to install to be up to code is a commerical dishwasher/dryer that reaches a mandated temperature etc.

They take a lot of space.

So it's not like your friend can just go to Sears a buy a dishwashing machines or two.

And how do you even KNOW there are several dishwashing services for him to choose from? Or if any of those businesses hire people who make a living wage with benefits?

[AndyA]

4. What will they think of next?

I respect you for having the integrity to know when you cannot continue to support something that is wrong in your opinion.

I wish a lot more people were like you.

[Atman]

5. I thought from Yoda this post was...

Oh...you meant TOO.

:hi:

.

[Fovea]

7. I hate to sound polyanna-ish

but at least they were paid min. wage.

I have heard of local employers who were not so generous.

This is another predatory aspect of modern global capitalism-- wage slavery with the complicity of governments. It serves a secondary purpose beyond profit, and that is the effect it has on wages in general, when the undocumented worker can be had for less.

[ellenfl]

10. i hope he has plenty of paper plates for those really busy days! eom

[rocktivity]

12. Great point! What if they run out of dishes?

And it seems to me they have enough room to store the dirty dishes before they're transported, they have enough room for a commerical dishwasher!

:headbang:
rocknation

[Parche]

11. Outsourcing Dishwashing

They send their dishes to India?????

[Old and In the Way]

14. As they say in the manufacturing world, "outsource it if it isn't a core competency"

even if it really is...

It's probably an interesting way to cut costs, people come to eat the food, they assume the plates will be clean.

[sinkingfeeling]

15. Wow. Most restaurants I've been around couldn't get by with only having

dishwashing performed at night. I worked in a Cracker Barrel for awhile, and they needed 3 shifts of dishwashers running loads through the machines around the clock.

[xchrom]

17. wow -- i've worked in restaurants for many many years --

i'm one of those who loves the work.

but even with dish washers working all teh time -- there were busy nights when the dishwashers were unable to keep up.

how can outsourcing deal with that?

i can't imagine.

[libnnc]

19. I wonder how that works with health code regulations

Are the off premises dish washing facilities sanitary? In NC, health inspectors examine dish washing stations in the restaurants too as well as the food prep areas. It's part of the inspection process.

[SoCalDem]

20. Hey.. why not go a step futher and outsource the cooking too?

have little ladies cook it at home and bring it to the restaurant every day?

[Swamp Rat]

22. Why not outsource the patrons too? .... "Outsourcing, it's what's for dinner!"

Let's outsource EVERYTHING!!! :bounce:

[eeyore]

21. It must be illegal to not have onsite dishwashing equipment...

I am in Oregon, and having just gone through a restaurant renovation, I can tell you that the health department here would never let that happen. All restaurants must have on-site commercial high-temp dishwashing. If your dishwasher breaks, you must have the capacity to do your dishes in multi-compartment sinks.

Your friend likely will be busted for this next time the health department comes by. I really can't imaging this being allowed under any state's health code.

[AngryAmish]

23. What a great idea

More floor space for cooking/dining and no big dishwasher. Your friend is a genius.