Just in - Kerry ad contest - get on it!!!!

[frogcycle]

Hi (redacted),

Your ad can be the one pressuring Republican Senators in some key states. Submit your script as soon as you can write it!



I've said it before and I'll say it again: the Republicans are feeling the pressure for change on Iraq. But I'm not a patient person. Especially when the lives of our troops are at stake. I refuse to wait around for the Republicans to move without giving them a little more pushing.

Quite simply, we want to take an unusual step - and we want to do it early. I think we need to run radio ads in the states of the Roadblock Republicans, making it crystal clear that they don't deserve to be reelected because of their continued support for the Bush Doctrine of escalation without end. We need to turn up the heat even higher.

It's the pressure of activists and the voice of the people that have gotten us this far in the Iraq debate, not the cookie-cutter ads and thirty second soundbites of Madison Avenue media firms.

So we decided, why don't we let you speak in this radio campaign? If user generated content can change presidential debates, I know it can help change the next election on the most pivotal of issues.

That's why we're running a contest. We want you to send in a script for a 30 second radio spot (that's about 65 words long), we'll whittle it down some to the top 20, and then we'll open up the voting to everyone. The winner that's chosen by the people will be what we air in the states. And we'll fundraise for the airing of that spot, with each of you able to choose with your contribution where you think we should run the ad. No political professionals making the spot, or choosing where to run it. It's all done by you.

You can make the spot sad, or satirical, or hard-hitting. Whatever you want to do. You can make it a personal story from your life (maybe you know someone in Iraq or have a family member there or maybe you are one of the many veterans in this community), or you can make a factual case on why voters should consider someone else because of this issue, or anything else you'd like. You get it -- it's up to you. And what you do can be the ad that goes on the air targeting the Roadblock Republicans.

So click here to submit your script.

You have until midnight ET on Saturday August 11th to get your script in, so get thinking and start writing. And forward this email to everyone you think might be interested in submitting a radio spot to this contest. If you know someone who has a way with words and wants to make a difference, send this along. We'd love to get their scripts.

Thank you, and let's make sure we get a change in course in Iraq very soon.

Good luck,

John Kerry

John Kerry for U.S. Senate
129 Portland Street, Suite 500
Boston, MA 02114-2014
[e-mail]
www.johnkerry.com


Paid For By John Kerry For U.S. Senate

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[MUAD_DIB]

1. Flame me if you will, but are the Democrats short on funds?

Whenever I see the word "Contest" in relation to something that highly paid professionals do I tens to cringe.


There's also this.

12) The winner shall not receive any prize.



Step right up folks and do the work of the marketing guys for them.



Flame away.

[blondeatlast]

3. Um, volunteering has been a longstanding and respected political tradition.

But thanks for the enthusiasm and wisdom. :eyes:

[MUAD_DIB]

5. Um, you're welcome.

The absence of ideas has also been a longstanding political tradition, but what's worse is when politics does it on the cheap.


What's wrong? Don't they have any ideas left?

[Firespirit]

17. You seem awfully focused on the money aspect of this

Do you have any connections to a promotions firm? A firm that might produce this allegedly higher-quality content for a high price, a firm such as what was dissed in the original missive?

[MUAD_DIB]

20. No. No I don't, but thank you for the insinuation.

I have, however, experienced first hand how the contest BS works.


It's a cheap way of getting everybody who thinks they are an expert involved.

[demobabe]

55. Bingo: way of getting everybody involved

Community involvement is what it's all about. Kerry is smart in getting the community involved so they feel personally invested in the outcome and will spread the word to their friends.

It's not about being short on money or being cheap - it's about empowering people in a situation where a lot of us have been feeling pretty dismal about.

Hey, cool - someone is FINALLY going after Republicans instead of going after and undermining the most active Democrats on the days where they have real news to tell.

[MUAD_DIB]

70. You've hit all the buzzwords.

community

invested

empowering




How about this. Wouldn't it be great if the Democrats, who I have voted for in every election since I was old enough to vote, went after the republicans by going after the republicans?


Forget the fucking contest radio ad (wooo hooo that's fighting them!) and start throwing some of their asses in jail for contempt of congress, high crimes and misdemeanors, and everything else that they are guilty of. How about that?


Maybe we can have a contest to see which Democratic leader has the most balls to do it.

[MUAD_DIB]

11. Also: if this is considered volunteerism

then don't describe it as a contest.

[frogcycle]

4. naaahhhh

he saw the creative u-tube questions and came up with this as a way of stimulating yet more involvement


I think it is a great move to help make members of "We the People" feel like we actually matter, can have input.

With 300 million people the dynamics have changed from what the founders envisioned. Gathering in someone's kitchen or in the general store sitting on a cracker barrel to talk politics is not the way it works anymore. So over the past 3-4 decades people dropped out of the process and Big Corp stepped in. Getting the masses turned on and tuned in is essential if we are to take back America, and Kerry is all over it. Kudos to him.

[MUAD_DIB]

6. Not to belittle this any more than I have, but

the "contest" maneuver is such a sad way to go.

At least in the olde tyme days of the late 90s you could at least expect to be paid for your ideas: even if it was a whopping $300 prize.


Now this campaign is going to outsource it to the masses.



Good luck. You get what you pay for.

[sandnsea]

8. Actually, Kerry people love to help

It's how we won Iowa. Just so's you know.

[MUAD_DIB]

13. Then don't call it a contrest.

[sandnsea]

26. Uh, only one ad can be chosen

So that sort of makes it a contest. You don't have to get a prize to be a winner. Sorry that didn't occur to you.

[MUAD_DIB]

43. The winners in this will be the ones who

profit from it.


What was that saying about a sucker being born every minute?

[sandnsea]

59. The American people??

What is your problem?

[MUAD_DIB]

71. Idealsim is bullshit. We all win! Yipeeeeee!

My problem was originally with the idea of the "contest" in place of professional expertise, but now I am just shaking my head at some of the responses.

[karynnj]

84. "Idealism is BS" That's YOUR problem

Idealism is extremely important - and what keeps people committed to the values that really matter. That is not to say that pragmatism and common sense have no place. They do.

Here, this is an effort that is not an effort from the DSCC or the DCCC or the DNC and it competes with none of them. This is an unusual attempt to do something different.

What's the worst that can happen: Kerry may get only useless junk - and his PAC people will waste some time looking at it - or he may get few entries. Not a real loss, in my opinion.

What are the possible gains:
- It involves some people
- People will put into their words, the arguments that persuaded them. These may not be the words or arguments that Madison Avenue would come up with. It is possible that they will find a gem or two - something authentic and convincing. They might also find some "diamonds in the rough" that the admen could refine.
- It may cause groups of people to brainstorm what to do - which could create some action. What might be a cool variation on this would be to do the same thing in September challanging college kids to come up with something.
- Some people might have FUN.

[MUAD_DIB]

87. This is how I see it, and no offense to your post whatsoever.

We are in a war right now: political, economic, corporate and religious.

The Dems have won one battle in 06, and I want to see them clean house in 08.


I want to see the Democratic leadership go for the throat of the Republicans. I want to see them evicerate and destroy, for good, these pieces of shit known as the GOP.

I hate these fuckers like I have never hated anything else in my life so when I write this I am only doing so out of utter contempt for the right wing.

I don't believe that we have time for gimmicks or feel-good measures. That time to me is long, long past.
Maybe the GOP spin machince is really breaking down, but I would be foolish to believe that is exactly the case. There is plenty of corruption to bring them down, but I just believe that they will have some new trick up their sleeve to screw with the red-staters just enough for them to hold their nose and vote for "their guy."

I really believe that the Dem's time would be better spent by taking off the gloves and hitting them hard: again and again and again.

I am really concerned for what BushCo has planned for the later part of 07 into 08 so I really would want to see results out of any campaign against the GOP.

The Republicans just have to be gearing up for something to counter their 06 losses and we should be preparing for that. If we don't, and our answer is to come up with "diamonds in the rough" or "useless junk" we may lose what is nearly in our grasp, and that would be a real loss.

[karynnj]

88. I agree with you on the seriousness of the problem

and if this were in replacement for some other normal outreach, I would agree that you need to think long and hard.

The point is that we have reached most of the people that standard methods can reach. I also am not as impressed by the campaign ads that the normal people have put together.

There are many people working to move things forward - and, in terms of elected people, few have worked harder than Senator Kerry. A year ago, neither Obama or Clinton (either one) were eager to even speak of changing the policy in Iraq) and Edwards was totally vague.

This may be a futile idea - or it may find something that the politicos and inside the beltway people don't see. It is a creative idea and it is far from the only thing he is doing.

I honestly think the best thing the Democrats could do would be to get parts of the Kerry/Reed response to Bush's speech out. Kerry in particular was crystal clear on Iraq and on Al Qaeda.

[Breeze54]

100. You're correct, they call it a contest!

:P

[LittleClarkie]

10. Would you be belittling it regardless

Or were you attracted to speak about the idea because it's Kerry?

[MUAD_DIB]

12. I like Kerry. I voted for him, and

he's my senator.



I have never liked the "Contest" model of doing business.

[LittleClarkie]

15. Fair enough. Sorry about the question. It probably wasn't fair

Cheers.

[MUAD_DIB]

21. Think nothing of it. This is an easy board compared to others.

I just wanted to point out my opinion of contests.

[frogcycle]

16. sheesh

of COURSE they could hire an ad firm to write the ad.

it is not an attempt to get content on the cheap - it is to stir up interest in the process

[MUAD_DIB]

23. 12) The winner shall not receive any prize.

That sounds pretty cheap to me.

[frogcycle]

27. that is ancillary

yes that is "cheap" but the purpose of the damned thing is the PROCESS, not the RESULT

and a reward or prize would detract from the spirit of getting involved in the process


sheesh again

[MUAD_DIB]

31. I like your idealism.

[Firespirit]

30. Yes, since it's free to send out mass mailings.

Right. :eyes:

As for paying the creators, the agreement on that page constitutes a legal contract between the campaign organization and anyone who makes a submission. It's like a Request for Proposals. By submitting something, you're agreeing to the terms of that contract, which include no stipend for winning. It's mutually agreed upon by the campaign and the creator. If they're fine with the terms of that contract, what's it to anyone else?

[MUAD_DIB]

32. Who profits from this?

Now can I roll my eyes at you?


No. I won't waste time.

[Firespirit]

34. If you really want to get technical,

it's the company that manages their e-mails. They're the only ones who got paid.

With a list the size of the Kerry list, that can't be cheap.

[MUAD_DIB]

37. Bingo. Thanks for playing.

[Firespirit]

41. And why is that a problem?

You just proved my point -- there's nothing "cheap" about this. The point isn't to save the Kerry campaign money, because it isn't likely to be doing that.

[MUAD_DIB]

46. Of course it's cheap. Don't be naive.

[Firespirit]

52. Oh, I assure you I'm not being naive.

The Kerry e-mail list is over 2 million people. If this went out to everyone on the list, and it seems to have, it was a multi-thousand-dollar bill. These e-mail list firms charge by the number of recipients.

[MUAD_DIB]

66. Sounds like it to me.

Again, who profits?


Not the winner.

[GodHelpUsAll2]

85. Wow

2 million people? Who'd he buy that list from?

[LittleClarkie]

90. Actually, I think folks would like to buy it from him

You can sign up at www.johnkerry.com. Or www.keepingamericaspromise.com or www.setadeadline.com

As he's had various action alerts, he's added more names. Citizen co-sponsors on bills, petitions, that sort of thing. You end up on the list.

He gets a pretty good response when he calls for action, I hear.

I thought it was closer to 3 million, myself, but perhaps some have dropped off.

[Firespirit]

14. Then don't participate

Somehow I doubt you'd be missed.

Why do you care if Kerry (or anyone) solicits content from activists for a good cause? Are you in a marketing firm or something? OK, probably not... so what's the deal?

Sheesh.

[wisteria]

62. Embarrassing a Republican enabler in their own state is compensation enough for me.

Why would someone expect payment for winning a contest?

[sandnsea]

7. Radio ads

Get the people involved. Brilliant idea. *sigh* Just think how far I could have gone if I weren't so fucking stupid.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=273&topic_id=134093&mesg_id=134109

[LittleClarkie]

9. I don't see anything wrong with Kerry trying to include us in the process

and/or giving us a voice.

[MUAD_DIB]

18. Everything you've said is great, but

it is a cheap way to get help for an issue.


A little background on "contests."

• All the ideas submitted will be the property of the "contest" guys.

• The stipend that is given out is usually paltry compared to if the job was given to a PR firm.

• No Prize in this contest. Are they that cheap?

[Firespirit]

19. Cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap

You sound like a broken record.

What are your connections to the marketing industry?

[MUAD_DIB]

24. None. Marketers bite.

The funny thing is somewhere a marketer is getting out of doing their job by having others do it for them.

[Firespirit]

25. No, they're not

If a marketing firm wasn't hired, then they're not having ANY job "done for them."

[MUAD_DIB]

35. Then who came up with the idea?

Cheap ideas. Cheap firms.

[Firespirit]

45. It might have come from the campaign itself

I remember there being a call for Internet types to join the Kerry campaign staff. It was on the website www.setadeadline.com. Maybe this is that group?

[Firespirit]

92. You are a liar

Post proving the lie

OOPS! Forgot to keep your story straight. I knew it. I can smell your kind a mile away.

Pathetic.

[MUAD_DIB]

103. No, actually you are becoming a whiny ass.

Firespirit Thu Jul-26-07 04:29 PM
Response to Reply #5

17. You seem awfully focused on the money aspect of this
Do you have any connections to a promotions firm? A firm that might produce this allegedly higher-quality content for a high price, a firm such as what was dissed in the original missive?


I'm not in PR, I don't have any connections to a promotional firm, I have never worked with any firm that would specialize in Poitical PR and I made the point clear when you first raised the above question before.


Why are you looking to be disingenous? Are you having a tantrun because our opinions differ?


grow up.

[ProSense]

22. OK, if you're that concerned, submit an entry and if you win

and your ad is played on the air, I'll personally buy you a cookie!

Seriously, the fun is participation and recognition.

[sandnsea]

28. I have an extra copy of TMOE

What else can we add to the pot. :)

[ProSense]

36. Got any

2004 memorabilia? :)

[frogcycle]

40. a Kerry/Edwards ball cap, and sign in the car window n/t

[sandnsea]

53. Hiccup

Gotta stop drinkin' so much.

[sandnsea]

57. K/E bumpter stickers

Not willing to let go of anything else. :P

[MUAD_DIB]

29. Here's an analogy to the contest.

What do you do for a living?

Let's say you're a plumber. Good, sturdy profession.


Let's say you see a contest from me to have plumbers come in and fix my bathroom drain.




The lucky plumber that does the job well shall not receive any prize.


Regardless if it is my profession or not (it is not) I just find it a lackluster approach to involving others.



It demeans the professionals who do this stuff for a living.

[ProSense]

33. I hate to burst your bubble, but

this stuff happens on home improvement programs over and over, and the participants do it for the publicity (hint: it's good for attracting future business).

Now go out there and make a name for yourself!

[MUAD_DIB]

38. And who profits overall?

[frogcycle]

42. We the fricking People profit

sheesh yet again

[MUAD_DIB]

47. More idealism. Great.

[ProSense]

49. That's easy:

the person won the contest, when the business starts rolling in.

Remember when they awarded magnificent prizes (cars, trips etc.) that incurred huge tax liabilities for the winners? Problem: you can't pay the IRS with a car (unless you sell it).

The best part is that participation is voluntary.

What are you complaining about?

[MUAD_DIB]

68. I'm exercising my first amendment rights

to explain why I believe "contests" are bullshit.

[ProSense]

72. Excellent!

So you realize that others are free to disagree with you. Are you going to listen to the ad that's chosen?

[MUAD_DIB]

74. I think that it is great that there is disagreement among us and

that people are free to do it.


Will I listen to the ad? Since I am in the business of design/advertising I see and listen to a lot. Most of it is crap. Most of it (94%) is ignored.

It really doesn't matter if I listen to the ad. You don't have to reach me since I'm already here. You have to reach John + Jane Q. Redneck in order to do any real damage to the republicans. So if the ad just makes DUers and people that already think like them feel happy then it is a dud.


Here's another example of why I don't like this thing.
Your script could turn into an ad in targeted states and make a difference in the makeup of the Senate! Remember, this needs to be easily changed to run in multiple states, so don't make it too specific to one Senator. Good luck!


This is a general broadcast announcement that has no teeth. Careful now. Don't be too specific. We have to make sure that we can get our money's worth out of this baby.


I'm out.

[ProSense]

79. Somehow I get the feeling

this isn't about just hating contests. The utter disdain seems to be personal since you are "in the business of design/advertising."

I doubt this is the first contest ever posted on DU. They have them on DU occasionally, no prize either. I don't see any complaints posted by you here or here.

[MUAD_DIB]

81. It's probably that I have missed them, but I have expressed the same point years ago

only to jumped on for not having enough school spirit.

The whole "personal" thing that you are pointing out is my professional opinion.


Gee, I don't know. I've always felt that people should be compensated for their intellectual property.


So contest away.

[GodHelpUsAll2]

86. actually

Those participants on the home improvement shows get their living rooms or bedrooms etc remodled at the expense of the show. New furniture and all. So yea, there is a payoff. Not a good comparison.

[ProSense]

89. Not in all instances, they pay the

contractors. Also, some of the designers do it for the exposure. There are all types of situations.

[Firespirit]

39. Doing things for free doesn't "demean" anyone.

Good lord.

Does the term "request for proposals" mean anything at all to you? It's a standard way of doing business when there are several contractors to choose from. It costs each contractor time and money to put a proposal together, and they usually aren't paid by the customer for doing so. By your standard, I guess that's also a demeaning way to do business. Much better to have the equivalent of a no-bid contract with someone up front rather than letting there be a free flow of ideas.

[MUAD_DIB]

50. A RPF is the basis for possible work.

That's W O R K.

When one contractor has finally been selected he/she will expect pay for that work.


RFPs aren't built around the words "FREE." If they were then you'd be out of business.

[Firespirit]

The contract is between the client and the firm

Whatever price they set is between THEM. Usually there's a fee but there does not HAVE to be.

[MUAD_DIB]

63. Riiiiiiiigghhhhht.

[sandnsea]

61. Have you never done free work?

Some in-kind advertising for a festival or activist event? Donation for an auction? Nothing??

[MUAD_DIB]

65. Yes I have.

It goes like this: if you get $50 to do a job then you are expected to put in $5000 worth of your time.

When you are finished with the job the client is never happy. Usually he/she has a friend that they say will do it cheaper, but that friend never appears.


If, you are doing a job pro bono then the client will insert themselves at every step of the way. Since you're doing it for free it must not be that hard.



Very rarely does the client step back and let the professional do their job.

[sandnsea]

78. You get $5000 of free advertising

I guess you forgot that part. It's almost essential in a small town.

Yes I understand the part about free clients wanting more and more work. That's why I always take 3 days to do what I could do in 3 minutes, when I'm dealing with free clients. Just a little tip.

[MUAD_DIB]

83. Right. Sure you do. That's just how it works

in small town.


I live in Big Town. try it sometime.

[sandnsea]

91. Is all the same

There's all sizes of nonprofits in big towns that can use all sizes of assistance. A big town is just a million little towns, over, under and beside each other.

[MUAD_DIB]

93. And there's all types of ideas: good ones and poor ones.

The "contest" scenario, to me, has always fit into the latter.

[sandnsea]

97. Well no, giving freely is your issue

You've made that perfectly clear. It's your choice. But I don't know how you can quite say it's a poor idea, considering almost every company in the world knows the benefit of well-placed pro bono work.

[MUAD_DIB]

98. No, that's not my issue, but thanks anyway.

I've made my opinion clear enough about "contests."


I guess you keep on missing that.



Have a nice day.

[dwahzon]

73. Do you have a life?

I suggest that you go do something fun rather than continue to post about something that so obviously irritates you. It's not good for your blood pressure.

[MUAD_DIB]

76. Does DU have the ability to accept differing opinions?

If I disagree or reply to a direct post that disagrees am I not part of the team any longer?


Do I have a life. Sure I do, and part of that life is calling BS when I see it.



If I offend then that's life.

[Oak2004]

101. Hint: This is a not for profit operation.

If it were a for-profit business running such a contest, not only would it be a rip-off, but it would likely be against the law.

But donating time to not-for-profits is commonplace even for professionals. When I was a web designer, as part of an organized program for web designers to donate their time, I did quite a few sites for nonprofits without earning a dime on them. There are similar programs out there for traditional advertising professionals, and for that matter there are programs of this sort for very nearly every profession.

So I doubt any professionals are griping about this contest. Just amateurs who don't know what professionals do.

[Sweet Freedom]

80. It's called spec work

and usually professionals won't participate in contests of this sort. There's even a group called No Spec (the site is specifically for designers but does apply marketing, etc.):

"In an effort to educate Visual Communication Designers and those who use their services, on the damaging effects caused by spec work and spec-based design contests, a group of designers from all over the globe banded together, fueled by passion and a lot of caffeine, to bring NO!SPEC to the public.

http://no-spec.com/

[Oak2004]

102. It's not spec work.

Spec work is pure ripoff. Spec work promises usually imaginary profits after they've got your work.I would not and did not do spec work.

Donating time is not a rip-off. It's called volunteering. Volunteering is a good thing, despite some people's views that they need to be paid for every time they move their damned finger. Trying to muddle the difference between spec work and volunteer work is, in my book, just another example of slimy capitalism at work.

(Exception: the big nonprofits are in fact well funded businesses with well-paid CEOs and ought to pay their employees. Most community organizations and political campaigns are not.)

On top of it all this is not merely an "ad campaign" -- it's a part of the democratic process. I spent some time in 2004, and before, phone banking. There are professional telemarketers. Should I have been paid for phone banking? And if so, what corporations should have bought my candidates so that they could afford to pay for every minute of time spent by every person who worked on their campaign?

The best analogy I can make here is the difference between the old vanity presses and the modern self-published print-on-demand movement. The old vanity presses existed primarily to make a lot of money off of exploitable, usually bad, writers, and legitimately were avoided and condemned by professional writers. Modern print-on-demand is not exploitative and gives authors greater control over their work. Increasingly good writers are opting for print-on-demand, and the industry is beginning to make a real dent in traditional publishers' sales. One exploits, the other democratizes, one profits off the hapless author, the other profits from sales. Some still confuse the two based on superficial resemblances, but they are as far removed from each other as, well, spec work and volunteering.

[emulatorloo]

2. "Roadblock Republicans" -- good one - n/t

[zulchzulu]

44. I'm going to submit a couple...

This is a great idea. Granted, I've done professional work in voiceovers and TV...

:hi:

[frogcycle]

48. I wish to offer my heartfelt thanks to MUAD_DIB

for keeping this thread alive. I rarely make an OP, and when I do it usually disappears within five or six minutes.

I would offer a prize, but I'm too cheap

:rofl:

[politicasista]

51. LOL!

:hi:

[ProSense]

54. Why the hell did you post

such a controversial topic! LOL!

Sorry, I have to get back to a war crimes thread that's getting no attention.

[Firespirit]

58. It contains the name of He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named!

That automatically makes it controversial!

[MUAD_DIB]

64. You're welcome. Really. Thisis the most back and forth

that I've had in 4 years.

[MH1]

75. Seconded

I really couldn't believe anyone would fault an idea to get people engaged in the political process, but hey, I found out I was wrong!

I don't know how to respond yet, to someone who hangs out on a political message board but apparently thinks engagement is a bad thing, but maybe I won't be so surprised the next time I run across it.

[MUAD_DIB]

77. The funny thing is

I thought that my post would be overlooked.


I didn't expect the pigpile of blind idealism from Du today, but then again, I never said that I was right. It is just my opinion: professional though it be.

[blondeatlast]

56. If a DUer doesn't submit the winning entry, I'll be surprised. More wit,

knowledge, and prowess in GD on any given Tuesday than in a week of Madison Avenue.

I have to leave now, but Ill give it my best. Thanks!

[wisteria]

60. LOL, I love this. The Republican stuffed shirts are going to have a fit!

[dorkulon]

67. My fave Kerry ad: (pic)

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

69. Pretty Cool Idea. I'm Gonna Have To Think Of One.

Can't wait to see what others come up with!

[lonestarnot]

82. They prollee wouldn't take to kindly to my fuck yous!

:rofl:

[rucky]

94. This sounds like fun.

I'll post my script here before submitting it.

[rucky]

95. OK, here's mine:

DJ: It's now time for the Roadblock Radio traffic report, sponsored by Keeping America's Promise.

Traffic Guy: On the road to Sanity, we have a 450 Billion-dollar pileup of debt, and it's growing by the minute! The cash is being diverted all the way to Iraq.

DJ: What seems to be causing it, Traffic Guy?

TRAFFIC GUY: Nobody can say for sure, but there appears to be a small group of Republican Senators standing side-by-side with the Bush Administration and causing a Fisical Roadblock.

DJ: You heard it folks, call Senator ________ and demand they clear the roadblock out of Iraq.

[MH1]

96. I love it!

Great job!

:applause:

[frogcycle]

99. creative - I like it - add more !