Jack Sprat
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Thu Jul-26-07 03:48 PM
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We have a dictator, who openly defies the US Constitution, obstructs justice, controls the Justice Dept, defies Congress by writing his own laws, refuses to allow Congressional oversight and investigation, and is conducting an untouchable autocracy before our eyes. There is no precedent for this in American history that I'm aware of. Nixon sure tried to obstruct justice, but was not able to corrupt the Justice Dept to gain control of it. Bush indeed has.
Should we not be appealing to the heads of our Armed Forces to take all the members of the Bush White House into custody, at least temporarily, to allow an independent investigation of this entire Executive Branch of government and most certainly an investigation of the Department of Justice?
I don't see any other alternatives. We have a rogue dictator and his loyal followers running our country into the ground.
For gosh sakes, Bush (in his own words) stated that he needed a war to gain political political capital. AND HE STARTED ONE!
His Attorney General is a lying stooge that is obstructing justice to defend Dictator Bush and he (Gonzo) is the only one who can authorize an independent investigation of them both.
The Vice President has declared his office outside any known branch of government.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? SHOULD WE APPEAL FOR A TEMPORARY TAKE-DOWN OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH?:wtf:
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dkofos
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Thu Jul-26-07 03:58 PM
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1. Congress can cut off the money, but have already shown they won't. |
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They can impeach, but have taken that off the table.
They can look the other way, ignoring their Constitutional duties, and hope he goes quietly into obscurity, which seems to be the plan.
I don't think there are enough Generals left that aren't under his control to actually pull it off.
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Jack Sprat
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Thu Jul-26-07 04:04 PM
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It certainly does...to appeal for a military coup of your own government. But, what do you do when a dictatorial group of thugs seize the highest office in the land, and then doesn't allow itself to be subject to any law or investigative authority?
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Thu Jul-26-07 03:59 PM
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2. That kind of answers itself |
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Because they own the Pentagon too and in your post you acknowledge THEY are the ones most likely to take action to take down something. We should demand the discipline of law and accountability. People NOT doing their jobs or keeping faith with nation, profession or the law are what got us into this mess and are the ones most likely to profit from everyone doing it, the chaos, the distraction, the opportunity, and above all the chance to break the faith of mankind in the law by corrupting us all to breaking it.
At least this is recognized by the word "appeal" except that appealing to strong men to rescue us is a pretty sorry and equally dangerous proposition.
We are taking down this whole fraud, this whole fake philosophy, this whole web of scoundrels. First by truth and protest and political action and then by leadership of our fellows to see, think, reform from the ground up so the grass fire chases them to the top of their tinder dry tallest trees. There is no strong man up there, fortunately, to tempt us otherwise unless we simply want some form of temporary revenge and temporary relief from the full weight of what must be done AFTER we get these particular bums out.
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Jack Sprat
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Thu Jul-26-07 04:12 PM
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6. The Department of Justice is in collusion |
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What do you expect of the discipline of law and accountability, if the Executive has taken total control of the Justice Dept and holds Congressional subpoenas in contempt and ignores them?
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Thu Jul-26-07 03:59 PM
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3. That kind of answers itself |
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Because they own the Pentagon too and in your post you acknowledge THEY are the ones most likely to take action to take down something. We should demand the discipline of law and accountability. People NOT doing their jobs or keeping faith with nation, profession or the law are what got us into this mess and are the ones most likely to profit from everyone doing it, the chaos, the distraction, the opportunity, and above all the chance to break the faith of mankind in the law by corrupting us all to breaking it.
At least this is recognized by the word "appeal" except that appealing to strong men to rescue us is a pretty sorry and equally dangerous proposition.
We are taking down this whole fraud, this whole fake philosophy, this whole web of scoundrels. First by truth and protest and political action and then by leadership of our fellows to see, think, reform from the ground up so the grass fire chases them to the top of their tinder dry tallest trees. There is no strong man up there, fortunately, to tempt us otherwise unless we simply want some form of temporary revenge and temporary relief from the full weight of what must be done AFTER we get these particular bums out.
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Thu Jul-26-07 04:04 PM
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4. A nation that asks for a military coup doesn't deserve democracy. |
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Edited on Thu Jul-26-07 04:04 PM by TahitiNut
Unless the People are themselves willing to fight and die for their own self-governance, they shouldn't have it. Period.
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Jack Sprat
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Thu Jul-26-07 04:19 PM
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7. A nation that asks for a military coup probably |
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recognizes or has serious suspicions that democracy is being stripped of them, before their very eyes and has exhausted all legal means of trying to save it. If you have a strong probability that the very elections that were held to put a tyrant in power were subverted by the very Dept of Justice that is responsible for keeping them open and honest, what?
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Thu Jul-26-07 04:23 PM
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8. Bad, bad precedent. We are better off helping our Military |
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recognize "unlawful orders".
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