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[WilliamPitt]

Total half-an-eye misread with compounding fracture of memory.

Hi. Dumb guy here. 13+ hour workday = don't get pissed with one eye closed.

Apologies all.

[proud2BlibKansan]

1. So we are glad to keep it a republican seat?

Huh?

Sorry Will, you lost me. :shrug:

[WilliamPitt]

4. Cegelis wouldn't have quit.

Duckworth is a Dem.

Leaving after one term.

[greatauntoftriplets]

9. Henry Hyde beat Cegelis in 2004.

Why do you say that Duckworth is leaving after serving one term? She never served in the House.

Tammy Duckworth beat Cegelis in the 2006 primary. Peter Roskam won the seat in the 2006 general election.

Tammy Duckworth has never served in Congress.

Disclaimer: I live in Danny Davis' district.

On edit: Tammy Duckworth has been in the state veterans' affairs job since shortly after she lost the election last fall.

[Debi]

26. Not too hard to win a primary when the DCCC gets involved

raises money for the candiate and has elected officials campaign for the candidate. The D-trip should have stayed out of the primary, if Duckworth was the better candiate she would have won w/out the DCCC's inteference.

[greatauntoftriplets]

27. You don't know the 6th district...

I do. It may be changing, but it is changing slowly.

[Debi]

31. That is not an excuse for the DCCC to interfere in what is a local primary

Washington knows the district better than it's voters? If Duckworth was the savior of the district then she would have won the primary on her own merits and the D-trip could have invested a boat-load into her race against the republican. Instead the DCCC decided what was best for Democratic voters of the district. And she lost the election (yes either one of them may have lost in November, but we'll never know now will we with all the ill will that the Duckworth candidacy AND the DCCC interference brought with it?). And then she got the job she probably would have gotten w/out running for Congress. What did CC get out of it?

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. And Cegelis was a better candidate and would have won with more support

So now I get the shooting themselves in the foot part.

Thanks. Got it now.

[BlooInBloo]

8. Make that two, waiter!

[madfloridian]

15. Cegelis was forced out by Rahm.

That is the bottom line. She had been building the grassroots there, had actually made a pretty good showing against Hyde.

She was a Dean/DFA list candidate.

Rahm pumped huge money there for Duckworth. With the help of Durbin and Obama they got nationwide media coverage for Tammy their pick.

Cegelis was a victim of those who believe they get to pick our candidates.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/904

[proud2BlibKansan]

17. Rahm has never been one of my favorites

He is a sneaky little devil.

[annabanana]

2. She sure did deserve better...

That was a cynical decision based on madison avenue focus groups and incredibly short sighted "conventional wisdom", with nary a glance behind the curtain as to what could make that district sit up and work for us.

[riderinthestorm]

3. I worked for Christine. I worked for Tammy. Do you know for certain Christine won't rise again?

She has sooo much support here. I live in Wheaton - the worst red town of this worst red county. And Christine isn't forgotten here....

I would work my ass off (again!) to defeat Roskam. I grew up with that SOB, I have the naked baby pics in the backyard baby pool to prove it and know what a hypocritical asshole he is.

I would relish the chance to enable Christine to defeat him.

[WilliamPitt]

5. My understanding

is she'd rather be eaten by bears.

Doing movement stuff now, nowhere near the Illinois 5th.

[madfloridian]

7. I heard she she will be working to get someone else to run.

But I have not heard who.

[LSK]

47. someone in Hasterts district I believe

At least that was in March...

[madfloridian]

6. Will PItt, that is twice this week I totally agree with you.

I am now officially waiting for hell to freeze over.

:evilgrin:

Almost half a million of DCCC donations spent to get Christine out when she had troops on the ground.

They did the same in Florida, but the guy did win because of Foley. Trouble is, he was a Republican they recruited and got a good Dem out of the race. So we have a Dem, who only changed parties from Republican after he was recruited by Rahm and Karen Thurman.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/904

And there is so much to the Lutrin story, I won't even post some of it...just read it from FDL and Howie Klein and Lutrin.

[flyarm]

50. Rahm and karen did the same thing to one of our wonderful candidates on the west coast of Fla

as well!!..they screwed her!!

She damn near won in 2004..and then had no competition and Rahm and Karen got a good ole buddy of there's to run against her in a primary....but the guy was a repug..so he had to change parties 6 weeks before the primary and they put all the FDP money and national money against the wonderful dem candidate!!


yes just let rahm come into your area..he can fuck up a free lunch!!

i can't stand him!

fly

[Debi]

10. "Duckworth, who just padded her resume and already has a new job lined up, is going home. "

To the Congressional District she lives in :eyes:

Sorry Will, have seen the DCCC & DSCC do this too many times.

[greatauntoftriplets]

12. Right, she has never left her home....

except to go to Springfield. Although most day-to-day state government seems to occur in Chicago these days.

[Debi]

18. I meant that she never lived in the district that she was recruited to run

for Congress to represent. I think she lives in Bean's district.

[greatauntoftriplets]

21. I knew that....

I like Duckworth. She is doing a great job with the state. Did you know that her husband is currently serving in Iraq? Or is it Afghanistan? One or the other. Has to be difficult on them, given her disabilities.

[Debi]

24. I'm sure it is hard for her.

Liking her doesn't make how her candidacy came about any better.

[greatauntoftriplets]

29. Christine Cegelis's candidacy didn't come about any better in 2004.

:shrug:

[Debi]

33. She was running against an incumbent in 2004, not the case in 2006 was it? n/t

[madfloridian]

43. She had about half a million spent against her by her own party.

In the primary.

[Richard Steele]

11. Another triangulated strategy winds to its predictable conclusion. nm

[mmonk]

13. Yeah, she deserves better.

But obviously I have a great deal of problem with some of the "strategy" employed these days. I guess I'm not supposed to understand it.

[proud2BlibKansan]

19. They seem to be shooting themselves in the foot, as WIll said

and not just in Illinois.

[Cha]

16. Is there a chance Christine will

run again for this precious seat?

[orleans]

20. this is from july 8th

yeah, i heard this a couple weeks ago and thought: figures.

Tammy Duckworth backing away from another run for Congress


Associated Press - July 8, 2007 6:54 PM ET

CHICAGO (AP) - Tammy Duckworth says she won't run a second time for the Sixth Congressional District seat now held by Representative Peter Roskam.

The Iraq War veteran ran unsuccessfully against Roskam in November after US Representative Henry Hyde stepped down.

Now director of the Illinois Department of Veterans' Affairs, Duckworth said she won't run against Roskam next year.

The 39-year-old Democrat from Hoffman Estates left open the possibility of seeking political office in the future and told the Chicago Tribune she considered the work she is doing now in reaching her decision.

Duckworth received international attention during the race. She lost both her legs in the war when a rocket-propelled grenade hit the helicopter she was co-piloting.

She says the District is "a winnable seat for anyone who is a more moderate, fiscal conservative."

http://www.wqad.com/Global/story.asp?S=6760090&nav=1sW7

[in_cog_ni_to]

22. Duckworth's husband just left for Iraq AGAIN. I'm sure her situation in life right now makes it a

little difficult to run. However, I agree with you about Rahm and the shit he pulled on Cegelis. She would have won.:(

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

23. And people wonder why...

There are times I would like to practice my full repetoire of karate kicks, full-on, with Rahm Emanuel's balls as the target.

And I mean one hell of a workout too. The kind you finish with a long, healthy puke.

[Blue-Jay]

25. The imagery of blowing off both of your feet is a bit macabre.

"Might be wise to lay in some strong drink." It also might be wise lay off some strong drink, don'tcha know...

[madfloridian]

28. Christine got 44% of the vote against an entrenched Henry Hyde

her very first time out. I found some of the percentages here. I don't know the blogger, it just popped up on a search. It was before the election in 06 apparently. Too bad it doesn't mention the huge amounts of money Rahm pumped into the primary.

This race is mainly the one Rahm was cussing at Dean about. He wanted more money for attack ads near the end. Dean said he would pay for get out the vote. I don't know the overall total...I have heard from 3 to 6 million.

"And the great news is that the Democrats, despite a tempestuous primary, are divided and dispirited. Iraq war veteran Tammy Duckworth eked out a 1,124-vote primary win over 2004 candidate Christine Cegelis. The total Democratic turnout was 32,575 -- 18,219 less than the Republicans'. In 2004 36,158 Democrats voted, and in 2002 turnout was 26,791.

Duckworth, a major in the Illinois Army National Guard, lost her right leg and part of her left leg when her Blackhawk helicopter was struck by a rocket propelled grenade in Iraq in 2004. She was recruited for the contest by U.S. Representative Rahm Emanuel, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee chairman. In the primary she was endorsed by U.S. Senators Dick Durbin and Barack Obama, and she spent just under $600,000. Almost all of her funding came from outside the district and was procured by Emanuel.

Cegelis, a liberal who got 44 percent of the vote against Hyde in 2004, thought she deserved a second shot. Emanuel thought otherwise. Cegelis ripped Duckworth as an interloper who didn't live in the district and for equivocating on Iraq. Cegelis sought a specific troop withdrawal timetable, while Duckworth backed "aggressive benchmarks."

The outcome proved, albeit narrowly, that Duckworth's mail game, which entailed seven mass mailings to Democrats, was more effective than Cegelis' ground game, which relied on precinct workers. Cegelis has given Duckworth a tepid endorsement. The final result was 14,283 for Duckworth, 13,158 for Cegelis, and 5,133 for Lindy Scott."

http://www.russstewart.com/5-3-06.htm

[Blue-Jay]

30. Duckworth was chosen by popular vote, NOT by Rahm.

She won the primary. That's the way it works.

[Debi]

35. Wonder how Cegalis would have done in the primary funded by the DCCC

and having IL elected Democrats campaigning and raising money for her? Is THAT how all primaries work? Usually the national party stays out of local races until the primary is over and the voters of the district have chosen the candidate.

[Blue-Jay]

38. The voters of the district made a choice.

Whether they made the wrong choice or not is mere speculation at this point. That district is a traditional Republican stronghold in the middle of a "blue" area, and I'm not convinced that Cegalis would have done any better unless you have information to the contrary. Do you? I'd be interested to see it.

It's not my district, but I'd have happily voted for either candidate if it were. I just don't see the point in rehashing old news.

[madfloridian]

37. With half a mil or more of DCCC money which Cegelis could not match

And publicity on national shows on CNN and MSNBC.

She got amazing advantages over Christine.

[Blue-Jay]

39. Maybe so, but I don't think you really understand the demographics of the area.

Seeing as how the OP has been deleted, I don't see the need to continue this discussion.

[madfloridian]

41. I understand 44% for a novice against an icon first year out.

This was a party decision, made with the loyalties in mind.

Just like this decision.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/904

"Early on in the process– in mid-2005– Dave contacted Democratic Party organizations throughout the district, as well as the state party and the DCCC in Washington. Everyone was enthusiastic and encouraging. Glen Rushing, the DCCC point person for the region, told Dave he was "just the type of candidate we're looking for." He offered to introduce him to Alabama Congressman Artur Davis, the DCCC-appointed mentor for Democratic candidates in the region, who following their first phone conversation offered to help him with his race. Rushing then promised to get him in touch with Florida DCCC chief, Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Emanuel's lieutenant for the Southeast.

Then something happened, something very dark and secretive, something people are just uncovering now."

[cynatnite]

32. You had me until you blew your feet off...please don't do that again...

:)

Thanks, Will. You do good work.

[IChing]

34. Worth at least 10 recommends.

LOL.....God bless you Will...sleep well

[mmonk]

36. It's ok. Sometimes I get pissed off with both eyes shut.

[helderheid]

40. GAAAAAAAAAAAHH!!!!!!!!!!

[madfloridian]

42. I think my feelings are hurt.

I agree with Will openly, and he deletes his post which was a very good one and totally correct.

:applause:

It was a good post.

Betcha I won't agree again. :-)

[Blue-Jay]

44. He probably deleted BECAUSE you agreed with him.

:rofl:

[madfloridian]

46. Probably.

It scared him, but that's twice this week.

It was a good post, seriously, and he should not have deleted it.

:dilemma:

[LSK]

45. not sure what you wrote but neither Duckworth nor Cegelis appear to be running

Maybe I should? :rofl:

[madfloridian]

48. That's about what he said....but much more colorful.

:hi:

[LSK]

49. too bad I missed it as I live in the district

and donated to Christine in the primary and worked for Tammy in the general and met Christine in March.

[riona]

51. This post has a message for everyone

:kick: