What did Pat Tillman know-what are they covering up? Why did they silence him? Has anyone

[fed-up]

interviewed all those that had any contact with or were stationed with him the entire time he was in Afghanistan?

This execution style killing is more than just the murder of a poster boy/recruiting tool for the war....

[smiley_glad_hands]

1. He kept a journal.

It was burned.

[hisownpetard]

4. How, when and by whom was his journal burned??! n/t

[frogcycle]

10. information not discovered in the "investigation"

his uniform was also burned ?!?

[hisownpetard]

11. OMG - I didn't know that. I'm actually feeling sick to my stomach.

He could have been murdered by someone in his platoon, and the big brass just let them off the hook
because it would be bad for them, politically, for the truth to come out.
Or, do you think it's possible that his murder was actually arranged by higher ups?

Either way, this is scary beyond belief.

[frogcycle]

12. personally

with nothing but the news reports to base it on, I think it was a "hit."
Not an accident. Not a comrade "losing it" and deciding spur-of-the-moment to off him because of his attitude, or a grudge, or something. Cold, calculated murder for hire.

• He had been bandied about as a big poster boy for the war when he joined.
  
• He was being very outspoken about opposing the Iraq debacle, keeping a journal many knew about, and had made arrangements to meet with an antiwar activist author.
  
• His "coming out" against the war was going to be really, really bad pr for the cabal.
  
• He was sent from Iraq to Afghanistan on some sort of temporary redeployment.
  
• The unit headed out on a mission, a Humvee broke down, and despite the platoon commander's objections as unsafe, the platoon was split up with one group going ahead, the other dealing with the disabled Humvee.
  
• When the two groups encountered each other later, there was this skirmish due to "mistaken identity" and he took three rounds from an M16 in the forehead from no more than ten yards away.
  
• There was no enemy contact, no enemy fire, no damage to any equipment or personnel from enemy fire.
  
• His journal vanished; his uniform was burned.
  
• The Dr. that did the initial exam recommended an inquiry, but it was not done.
  
• The official story that came out was a complete fabrication, encountering enemy forces, his being heroic, getting the silver star posthumously for valor, blah blah blah.
  
• later it was amended to acknowledge "friendly fire" but still the details were off. The distance was not acknowledged; enemy involvement was still alluded to - blamed on the "fog of war"
  

You do the math.

The most telling evidence, in my opinion, is, as with the Sherlock Holmes 'dog that did not bark', the lack of any alarm bells going off anywhere when it first occurred. Captains and majors and colonels don't instigate coverups like this on their own, with such a high-profile soldier. The communications necessary to pull it off - getting the fabricated story straight, running it up the chain of command, getting all the witnesses on board - just DOES NOT HAPPEN that fast. As Wes Clark said (either on MSNBC or Charlie Rose - I forget) decisions like this don't even happen at the 2 or 3-star level.

So if it was unintentional, somebody had to get all the way to the top to start the wheels turning on the coverup, and then it had to be implemented before anyone said anything else. It just doesn't happen that way.


As much as I think the 9/11 conspiracy theories suffer from the simple fact that you can't keep something like that quiet with the number of people who would be involved, now that we KNOW this was a coverup conspiracy, i don't believe it could have been pulled off without advance planning.

Our dear leader (b or c; take your pick; but I vote c) put out a hit on him. I firmly believe that, and will until it is proven otherwise.

And that explains all the obfuscation that we see. Not just this incident; if there is this then there are no doubt more. They know that if even some of the truth comes out as to what they have been up to, they are going to prison for a long, long time.

[hisownpetard]

13. Personally, I'm with you on this. Also because a while back,

when the news was first coming out that it was 'friendly fire' that caused
Pat Tillman's death, I remember reading somewhere that almost immediately
the word was passed to every soldier and officer who could possibly
know anything about it to keep mum on this subject, at all costs.
(It may have been an article that was written by Pat Tillman's brother,
who enlisted and was over there as well). Supposedly, this order
was from "high up' in command and was passed along almost in
the same breath as news of Pat Tillman's death was whispered from
one person to the next.


Who could possibly have enough clout to scare everyone even remotely involved
into participating in this ugly cover-up?

Again, I think the answer is B or C.

[frogcycle]

2. he was outtspoken against the iraq war

had an appointment to meet with Noam Chomsky. Got sent to Afghanistan and, from the sound of it, set up for a sniper. Probably a mercenary, IMO. Or CIA?. The coverup was so fast the brass had to already know what was coming.

[fed-up]

3. he wasn't wandering around Afghanistan alone-somebody knows where he went, what he saw...nt

[Lerkfish]

7. Good point, the coverup was instantaneous.

doesn't leave much room for any other explanation.

[MadMaddie]

5. They say he was shot twice in the back or head, the shots were

very close together and who ever pulled the trigger was only 10 feet away...he was assasinated...

[TwilightGardener]

8. 10 yards, not 10 feet away, according to AP.

[frogcycle]

9. three shots

so closely spaced that the dr initially thought it was one wound

close enough range that misidentification is unlikely -

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/26/AR2007072602025.html?sub=AR

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/09/25/MNGD7ETMNM1.DTL

[hisownpetard]

14. But why burn the uniform? eom

[Zywiec]

15. Let's see what an M4 can do

It can fire a three round burst in about a fifth of a second. If there were an accidental discharge, I would say that may explain three rounds in a very tight shot group.

[frogcycle]

16. fortuitously placed in the center of his forehead

there were also body wounds

[dorkulon]

6. I found a pic!

This is how it really happened!

[cynatnite]

17. Who are 'they'? n/t