Bushco going after Michael Moore -- Subpoena issued

[Bozita]

WTF?

[Blackhatjack]

1. Over Cuba visit? n/t

[Bozita]

2. yup, Cuba

[cynatnite]

3. Link? n/t

[aquart]

4. None. Tonight Show announcement.

[cynatnite]

9. I didn't watch the entire segment...

thanks.

[Nite Owl]

5. Michael just said it

on Leno.

[Gabi Hayes]

15. he mentioned it on Leno. he was informed of it an hour or so before

he went on

he hadn't told his family at that point.

Leno was VERY supportive, btw

non of the CNN treatment

very inspiring, for the most part ESPECIALLY when he had the three 911 workers stand up -- they were in the audience

people on other threads said the Sicko Card part was lame, but I didn't think it was that bad, especially when compared to other gimmicks, and he was pretty engaging, funny, poignant, etc, for the most part

the audience was pretty much behind him, as well

he told an interesting little story about how Harvey Weinstein called him EVERY day for awhile, before the film's release, demanding he take the part about Hillary's healthcare apostasy out. because he's one of her major backers

[proud patriot]

37. I'm with You Micheal

:yourock:

[Guaranteed]

6. Oh, and I suppose the DoJ WILL enforce that subpoena, eh? nt

[Jack Sprat]

25. Our DoJ has no business enforcing anything. It is a mockery

of justice, at best.

[orleans]

57. that's what i thought. and i bet that's what a lot of people will be thinking. n/t

[roody]

7. Good. It's time to shine a light on the travel ban.

[orleans]

63. he mentioned that. he said that Leonardo DiCaprio and ..someone else

had gone to cuba--

is the doj going after them?

he also laughed and said something to the effect of: we're a free country--but you can't travel to cuba!

great point.

[KitchenWitch]

8. A$$hole$

[mmonk]

10. Yep

Left the board here to watch it. Came back to see everybody's reaction. Pretty pathetic, isn't it?

[EFerrari]

11. Another stupid move from BushCo. They're falling apart at the seams.

I hope Mike has all the appropriate condiments handy.

[Swamp Rat]

29. Like this is going to make Bushler more popular.

NOT! :D

I hope it is broadcasted live on TV!!! :bounce:

[EFerrari]

48. Hey, Swampy! Wouldn't it be great if Mike spread the icing?

lol

:)

[frogcycle]

12. dumb fuckers just don't know what's good for them, do they?

he is gathering a WHOLE lot more bipartisan fan club with Sicko than he had before

[dorkulon]

13. Wow. This is serious suppression of dissent.

These guys are shameless, and have no idea what freedom actually means.

[crim son]

17. Sure they do: it means the ability to do whatever you want,

whenever and to whomever, in pursuit of your own happiness/wealth/power. Others however do not have the same privilege.

[IChing]

14. thanks ....FOR WHAT THE ANNOUNCEMENT WAS

ENEMY OF THE STATE!!!!
Fascist nazi fucks..................got that DU?

Nazi Fascist Fucks.

[frogcycle]

20. the surprise announcement was the SICKO healthcare card

that he described on hardball - but now he has a sample

[frogcycle]

27. he also re-committed to his diet

says he's going to lose a pound a week until he looks like Jay

[VP505]

16. Just a little

bit of what you call your basic vindictiveness, cause ya know MM has embarrassed Bu$hCo and we can't have that.

[frogcycle]

18. they are trying to say he broke the ban on commerce w/cuba

by getting the people treated

can we just get everyone who is uninsured or who has a horror story about their coverage or their parents or friends to speak out? that should be about 280-290 million or so...

[IChing]

24. This is much more than commerce

don't cheery pick this shit.

[frogcycle]

31. huh?

I am not excusing it - just 'splainin' the lame excuse they are using to harrass him

[IChing]

35. I know it has not come here on the west coast

and I'm outraged sorry to vent on you and others

It is fascism and Totalitarism, reminds me of soviets
visiting outside of the iron curtain.

It is a major statement beyond Michael Moore.

[frogcycle]

45. well he didn't even explain it on the show

which is why i offered what i had heard a few weeks ago

[IChing]

56. sorry

[EnviroBat]

87. I have to agree IChing.

Could it be that a major revolt is it hand? I'm really beginning to hope so. History is repeating itself in an ugly way, and we're standing around, mouth-breathing, watching it happen, just like they did in Nazi Germany.

[silverweb]

19. Good.

This is going to get very, very interesting.

Skewer them, Michael!

:popcorn:

[Bozita]

21. Moore WILL show up and answer Qs. How about Rove?

[bdamomma]

89. Michael should say I will answer your questions only if

Rove appears in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

[Elwood P Dowd]

22. That's great news.

Now the idiots will give Moore and the film more publicity. The horrible treatement of the 9-11 workers will be exposed to millions of Americans. Health care issues will be front and center.

[IChing]

30. The MSM is sooooo fair

It is good but it is fascism.

[mmonk]

34. Yep. When they go too far, they help Michael make his case.

[IChing]

39. It is not just about Michael Moore

this is very big collectively speaking for many
issues. It applies to all americans on many levels.

It is a very major blunder.

[Penndems]

23. Bush is just like Nixon: Paranoid about his enemies

We just heard this on "The Tonight Show". Absolutely unbelievable, and totally shocking.

[John Q. Citizen]

97. bushco is far worse than Nixon. Nixon was a pack of thugs, bushco is a criminal empire.

[crim son]

26. Maybe Bushco can find a way to turn Moore's trip into a material

attempt to disrupt our "peacekeeping" efforts in Iraq. Then they can take away all his assets and imprison anybody who supports him.

[LSK]

28. Bushco is being really stupid here

Why was he in Cuba? To get 9/11 Recovery Workers HEALTHCARE.

Let this stay in the news for a while, it only benefits Moore and the American people and makes Bush look like the heartless chimp that he is.

[frogcycle]

32. yep

they are collectively "going postal"

[IChing]

33. It says you are a traitor for doing it...

the ground swell of support for Michael will help our progressive cause.

[Gabi Hayes]

36. what do you want to bet they ignore it, pretty much what they've done, mostly.

look what happens when they try to pull a CNN.

they're pretending this story doesn't exist.

hoping the subpoena will change things a bit

I saw his appearance, and immediately wished he'd said that he'd respond to the subpoena as soon as Bushco started responding to those from congress

right?

[IChing]

40. great point

It is such a weapon to use against this benign fascist nazi regime
that can be applied to so many things.

[Gabi Hayes]

51. it's ALWAYS about the media, and what sort of exposure given (or not)

JFK was the first one to really take advantage of TV, after the baby steps taking by Ike

Nixon's handler's learned their lesson. look who was behind his 68 campaign. read "The Selling of the President"

then Reagan took it to heights only exceeded by Dumbo, and that only because of the MUCH more active complicity of M$M (they were merely passive during Reagan, spewing his video images, as provided daily by Deaver, etal)...see On Bended Knee

by active complicity, I mean the M$M was very careful to IGNORE all the major stories about Chimp in 99-2000, or else he'd never have gotten the nomination, much less been in a position to steal the election

but that should be obvious to everybody here

just flogging a dead dolphin on this but, but it just sticks in my craw that people don't but as much/MORE blame on media than they do the republicans. M$M CHOOSES to report/not report what they do.

etc

etc

that's why we're still in Iraq, why we went there in the first place, why Bush was allowed to steal both elections. most dumbass media consumers don't have TIME/inclination to get much past TV for their "news". As someone said, if it didn't happen on TV, it didn't happen

etc

[IChing]

61. Sorta when the Nazis owned are controled the message in Germany

Most Americans have never seen the torture photos.

[orleans]

69. the audience was totally supportive of mm, clapping & showing agreement w/him

and i have noticed that leno's audience isn't the most progressive/liberal of groups.

[bdamomma]

88. yes, it will bring out Healthcare issues more

and I wouldn't mess with MM, he knows his stuff. Plus Michael is bringing out the injustices of this inadequate health system in the US, the big pharamceutical companies do not like that. Go for it Michael!! You have my support.

[me b zola]

38. In solidarity with Michael

Thank you for speaking out for me.

[Imagevision]

41. I'll bet this happened before Gonzo's news of perjury investigation was

in motion...

[frogcycle]

47. i bet it was in response

he just heard about it an hour before the show - but the show is taped in afternoon...

[orleans]

72. so i wonder who told mm

"I haven't even told my own family yet," Moore said. "I was just informed when I was back there with Jay that the Bush administration has now issued a subpoena for me."
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Entertainment/2007/07/26/michael_moore_says_hes_been_served/8497/

when you get a subpoena who gives it to you? how did he find out he got a subpoena backstage??

[frogcycle]

92. good question

he may be dramatizing a bit

or maybe they actually served it there? - i doubt that

[alfredo]

42. Big mistake. there's no way the public won't see this as political.

Bush hasn't forgotten F 9-11. This is payback pure and simple.

Dictators use the judicial system to punish critics. What next? Seize the films and the money earned?

[orleans]

74. oh my god--that's it. it's bush's new presidential directive that he

signed lately, that lets him decide who is doing what to help the enemy and then bush can take their money and property.

randi was talking about this today with a caller--i think the caller said what if bush decided to go after hillary and take all her campaign money...

[alfredo]

79. Gates did write her and apologized for his deputy's actions.

[SeattleGirl]

43. Fucking assholes!!!

They give the middle finger to the CONGRESS when THEY are subpoenaed, but it's just fine to go after MM.

I hope this backfires on them big time!

I hope the 9/11 workers ask if they can testify.

I hope this shines an even bigger spotlight on the lack of access to healthcare here.

AND, I hope it really shines a spotlight on the hypocrisy of the Bush admin for people who were previously oblivious.

[IChing]

44. Not a damn nomination on this thread?

Thanks Bozita

[Old and In the Way]

46. They really are stupit.

Do they think the public is sympathetic to this stunt? Moore must eat this up. He'll tie them in knots. If they indict him (doubtful), can you imagine the discovery phase? I can't believe, given all of the PR problems, they want to go after a guy who is only trying to help the sick and poor. Whoever came up with this bright idea, just made a really dumb mistake.

[frogcycle]

they are either REALLY dumb and clumsy

or they know something. Just like with everything else - if they KNOW ther aren't going to be elections in 2008, KNOW that martial law is coming, KNOW that public opinion doesn't matter...

[IChing]

52. This has so many political points on this that "the loonie left" can use

it is unbelievable. It is bad, but also at the same time the whole corporate fight
of "free trade" and other issues are such
that it can and will bite then in their hypocritical ass.

edited for outrage and coherent reading.

[BlooInBloo]

49. God they're stupid. Give SiCKO MORE publicity?

[B Calm]

50. Damn... everybody in the country will want to see SICKO now!

[Wednesdays]

53. Mind boggling...even Reagan wouldn't have gone that far

I can't begin to imagine Carter or Ford having the gall. Yep, the wheels are really coming off the bus now.

[eridani]

54. Whatever you do, PLEEEZZZE

--don't throw me into that briar patch! :evilgrin:

[JTG of the PRB]

55. LOL! Bushco just keeps getting funnier! Wait... This is REAL?

In that case, allow me to react properly.

LMFAO!!!!! :rofl:

Are they SERIOUS? Michael Moore is probably the last guy the Administration want sunder oath. This guy will tell the truth, and point out the fact that the Bush administration is full of lairs and hypocrites! Have they gone off the deep end?

[marmar]

58. The insurance and pharmaceutical companies called in some favors, I see.....

:argh:

[WinkyDink]

59. Maybe MM should defy it, citing Harriet Miers as precedent.

[orleans]

76. love it! n/t

[Richard Steele]

86. Bingo- he should CLAIM that he doesn't have to appear because of "executive privilege"...

...thereby forcing B*sh to make an announcement denying it.

(B*sh never actually asserted that privilege for Miers, you know-
Congress just has someone else's claim that he did. Very irregular,
and not at all legal.)

Moore could generate more publicity for this AND for the
current contempt debacle in one fell swoop.

[wildbilln864]

60. Was there money involved?

Did the Cuban doctors get paid for their services? I haven't seen the movie yet but if not where is the commerce! What can they say? GW's gramps traded with the enemy during WW2 as I have read! :shrug:

[IChing]

62. Is the big country of Cuba an enemy?

[Disturbed]

68. Another stupid move by the Busholini Regime.

This will anger even more people against them. Not being able to go to Cuba is so freakin'dumb.

[BlooInBloo]

64. I can't wait to see the next ad: "SiCKO: The movie Bush doesn't want you to see".

[IChing]

66. Health care porn

You just might get off on it.

[Bozita]

78. The current 'Murican healthcare system is REAL porn.

The victims are everywhere.

We don't know how good the equipment works.

We DO know it doesn't work very well at all for most of us 'Muricans.

[kenny blankenship]

77. I can't wait to see if there's going to be a next ad

One of the worries MM and co. had around the time of the Cannes festival was that the film master and prints would be impounded by the assholes who've hijacked our government. The master was removed by MM and Weinstein to a "secure undisclosed location" outside the U.S. But that wouldn't mean much if the prints were taken out of circulation here because of the government's intent to suppress the film and prosecute Moore.

There will probably be a reichwing "grassroots" attempt to pressure theater chains to stop showing Sicko, regardless of whether the government comes after the film itself. The claim will be that it's UnAmerican to show Sicko since "treason was committed in the filming of this movie, and we are at war dammit!"

We need to think of ways to support Michael Moore, massively and soon. They don't have to actually win any case against him to effectively suppress his film. All they have to do is make him radioactive with accusations and criminal proceedings.

[nam78_two]

65. Heh, what idiots-good for MM

Good publicity-which they would realize if they weren't brain-dead :eyes:.

[marmar]

70. True. Complete free publicity for "SiCKO".....

Dumb vindictive assholes.

[frogcycle]

67. this is, or course, payback for F 911

bush holds grudges

what do you think that film's box office would be if it were re-released NOW?

[IChing]

71. The media....we need Michael Moore's satirical truth.

We are getting to Nixon's enemies list.

[Wednesdays]

73. Mark my words: tomorrow's newspaper headlines will scream

"Michael Moore Subpoenaed Over Cuba Visit" (not bothering to say who issued the subpoena), while mention of Rove's subpoena will be in small print at the bottom...if on the front page at all.

:argh:

[glitch]

80. They've got a lot to bury. I wonder if it will bury the Tillman story too?

And my guess is the stock market won't be doing too well either.

[Canuckistanian]

75. Smooth move, Bush

You've just made a martyr out of Moore, helped him promote his movie, helped his cause and made yourself look like the vindictive prick that you are.

[Kingshakabobo]

82. This is better than getting sued by O'Lielly.................n/t

[brettdale]

81. kick

It will backfire on Bush*t.

[OneBlueSky]

83. I just hope that Michael Moore isn't traveling in small planes . . . n/t

.

[radfringe]

84. claim executive producer priviledge and ignore it?

why not? if the bushies can do it, why can't Moore?

oh yeah, I forgot, silly me - the bushies are above the law

[HuffleClaw]

85. giving him an opportunity to air his views on CSPAN?

what the hell were they thinking? really, what idiocy. ok, sure, foxnews can trumpet about it but this is gonna backfire bigtime on them.

[malaise]

90. I dare Bush to go after Michael Moore

I double dare that fucker.

[gollygee]

91. More press won't hurt him

go publicize his movie for him, Bush & Co.!

[lapislzi]

93. My advice? Buy shares in Jiffy Pop

Or Orville Redenbacher.

:popcorn:

[IronLionZion]

94. American church groups go to Cuba quite frequently

albeit in violation of the travel ban, but they go nonetheless for humanitarian/missionary work. They just can't go directly there so they go via another country in the region.

I want to go to Cuba and see what it's like for myself. It's a popular tourist destination for Europeans, even British.

[roody]

95. Pastors for Peace just left Cuba.

Tomorrow they arrive at the US border. http://18thcubacaravan.blogspot.com/

[Disturbed]

96. There is no Prison term for this stupid Law..

A fine up to $5,500. Publicity money well worth it for Michael Moore.