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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 07:26 AM
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“…if IMPEACHMENT is underway…the military will stop Iran War – Vet. Intel Profs for Sanity
Edited on Fri Jul-27-07 07:29 AM by autorank

Here’s something comforting. The Vetern Intelligence Professionals for Sanity and Dr. Justin
Frank, MD, Psychiatrist, teamed up to analyze Bush at this point. Just how far out is he. Check
this out at Robert Parry’s site, Consortium.Com.


Dangers of a Cornered George Bush



By Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity & Dr. Justin Frank


July 27, 2007

No Conscience



George W. Bush is without conscience, and it would require a lengthy series of clinical sessions to
find out what happened to it. By identifying himself as all good and on the side of right, he has
been able to vanquish any guilt, any sense of doing wrong.

No Shame



George W. Bush seems also to be without shame. He expresses no regret or embarrassment about his
failure to help Katrina victims, or to tell the truth. He says whatever he thinks people want to
hear, whether it be “stay the course” or “I’ve never been about ‘stay the course.’” He does whatever
he wants.

Contempt for Truth?



Contempt itself is a defense, a form of self-protection, which helps Bush appear at ease and
relaxed—at least to big fans like New York Times columnist David Brooks.

Sadistic



His certitude that he is right gives him carte blanche for destructive behavior. He has always had a
sadistic streak: from blowing up frogs, to shooting his siblings with a b-b-gun, to branding
fraternity pledges with white-hot coat hangers.



SO BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE...



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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 07:32 AM
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1. "Suppose he went crazy
and tried to use the military to retain office." -- page 215 of The Final Days (Woodward & Bernstein)
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 07:37 AM
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2. Right, but Nixon was never THAT crazy...he just took the wrong wonder
drug, Dylantin, from his Wall Street pall. Tends to make one paranoid when you a) drink and b) don't really need it.

This Bush guy is the real thing, though, and he'd use anything to keep out of jail.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:43 AM
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14. He did go that crazy. There were orders out for the military
not to act on his crazy orders.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:19 PM
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24. Didn't that come from Kissinger?
I seem to recall something along those lines.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:36 PM
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25. I believe so -- it's been a while. Iirc, Kissinger's order was that
Edited on Fri Jul-27-07 12:37 PM by sfexpat2000
the military had to wait 24 hours before acting on any crazy call they got in the middle of the night. And, I think I read that in the Nixon biography "Alone in the White House".
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 07:43 AM
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6. I think Bush and Cheney are beyond crazy but
I also believe the system is stronger than both of them. Their corporate backers will run like rats to protect their money. Bushco will be stopped, but my worry is that unless severe punishment is meted out to all neo-con collaborators, they will hide in their basements and start plotting again.
Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld et al must be tried for treason.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 02:22 AM
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39. I hope you're right, but so far, those corporate backers have
been making barrels of money off these wars--why stop now?
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 07:39 AM
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3. Good post! I was composing mine while you were posting yours
Edited on Fri Jul-27-07 07:40 AM by Atman
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 09:58 PM
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33. You're latest K*R
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 07:40 AM
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4. key point....
We have a president whose psychological makeup inclines him to do as he pleases. Because Congress has been cowed, and the judiciary stacked with loyalists, he has gotten away with it—so far.

........he will continue unless he is impeached!
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 07:41 AM
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5. I like how the call for impeachment as a PRE-EMPTIVE measure, not punishment
That's a very key difference that I haven't seen addressed on DU.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:24 AM
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17. I'm very clear, as are many, on record, for impeachment for punishment for crimes.


These were all threads on DU, General Discussion. There's are many arguments around for impeachment for "high crimes and misdemeanors."


Did Bush Commit Election Fraud? 23 April 2007

In the spring of 2006, Domenici told Gonzales he wanted Iglesias out.
Gonzales refused. He told Domenici he would fire Iglesias only on orders from the president.


That’s the smoking gun. It’s the vital link to Bush committing election fraud. He’s a politician, the senior politician, corrupting the election process by replacing an honest prosecutor with someone who will cooperate the next time the Senator and the Congresswoman call with their requests that some prominent Democrat be indicted to give a hand to a campaign.

There is enough testimony, from a U.S. Attorney no less, to make a prima facie case that Bush committed election fraud. Ironically, the probable election fraud took place while the White House was promoting the Republican myth of voter fraud.

Let the impeachment process begin.

Did Bush Commit Election Fraud? (Part 2) 30 April 2007

By pursuing a strategy of promoting voter fraud as a wide spread phenomenon, the authors and supporters of this scheme were trying to influence the votes of tens of thousands of Wisconsin citizens exposed to this effort. This is certainly a corruption of the election process any way you look at it. It is reasonable to assume that many, if not all of those involved knew that intentional voter fraud was very infrequent.

The participants were committing wholesale election fraud in the process of promoting the myth of voter fraud.

Comey's Evidence of a Crime 18 May 2007[br />
Of great significance, however, is the fact that the program was implemented. It doesn’t matter if it was for an hour, a day or a week. Comey tells us warrantless surveillance on U.S. citizens was implemented without the required DOJ approval due to Comey’s unwillingness to attest “as to its legality.”

Section 371. Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States

If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. (18USC371) U.S. Code as of: 01/19/04

If those who continued the warrantless surveillance program did so knowing that the highest and final level of legal authority in the executive branch refused to “attest to it’s legality,” this was “an offense against the United States…” and an “…agency thereof” (DOJ). The several responsible were fully oriented and aware of their decisions.

IMPEACHMENT: "Did The President Ask You To Go?"

The following transcript is annotated in italics by the author.

Schumer: Let me ask you this. Who sent you to the hospital?

Gonzales: Senator what I can say is we had a very important meeting at the White House over one of the most important…

Schumer: I didn’t ask you that.

Gonzales: I’m answering your question senator if I could?

Schumer: Who sent you? Did anyone tell you to go?

Gonzales: It was one of the most important programs for the United States. It had been authorized by the president. I’ll just say that the chief of staff to the President of the United States, the counsel for the President of the United States went to the hospital on behalf of the President of the United States.

Schumer: Did the president ask you to go?

This is the key question. Sen. Schumer’s sole purpose is to get Gonzales to admit, to confirm what everyone knows. Bush told Gonzales and Card to go to Ashcroft’s hospital bed and get his signature.

SNIP

Senator Charles Schumer’s questioning of Gonzales lays the groundwork for impeachment of the president based on the most odious crime imaginable, trying to take advantage of a sick man, a man recovering from surgery, a man whose wife has insisted that there be no visitors. It’s not only a “high crime,” it’s a heinous one as well.

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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 03:50 PM
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30. Exactly, and there are those of us who try to point this out at every opportunity n/t
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Iverson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 07:43 AM
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7. I thought impeachment was off the table.
You're not praising Cindy Sheehan, I hope.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 07:47 AM
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8. damn this is scary....
:scared:

What gets lost in this process is growth—the George W. Bush of 2007 is exactly the same as the one of 2001. Helen Thomas has said that of all the presidents she has covered over the years, Bush is the least changed by his job, by his experience. This is why there is no possibility of dialogue or reasoning with him.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 07:58 AM
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9. triple scary...
<snip>

One thing Cheney says is indisputably—if myopically—true: Bush has been Israel’s best friend. In his speeches, he has fostered the false impression that the U.S. is treaty-bound to defend Israel, should it come under attack—as would be likely, were Israel to attack Iran.

With the U.S. Congress firmly in the Israeli camp, Cheney might see little disincentive to giving a green-light wink to Israel and then let the president “worry about cleaning up.”

Reporting from Seymour Hersh’s administration sources serve to strengthen the impression shining through Bush’s speeches that he is eager to strike Iran. But how to justify it?

Curiously, a National Intelligence Estimate on Iran’s nuclear capability, a study scheduled for completion early this year, has been sent back several times—probably because its predictions are not as alarmist as the warnings that Cheney and the Israelis are whispering into the president’s ear.

Senior U.S. military officers have warned against the folly of attacking Iran, but Cheney has shown himself, time and time again, able to overrule the military.

But What if Impeachment Begins?
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Iverson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 08:02 AM
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10. You can see it.
If impeachment proceedings begin, Republicans and the media that they own will say that the Democrats are harming the troops. We cannot have that!

Doesn't matter, though, because impeachment is off the table.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:00 PM
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34. There were no secrets. Some brains required when he talked
about a "humble" foreign policy and Jesus being his favorite political philosopher. What a give away. The guy had total contempt for both the public and the press since his life/career to that point was noting like that of Jesus, not even close.

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 08:04 AM
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11. Psst. Donald Trump has called for the bombing of Iran n/t
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:25 AM
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18. "The war is a total disaster, a catastrophe, noting less." Trump to Wolfie
Edited on Fri Jul-27-07 11:26 AM by autorank
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:17 PM
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23. Let’s bomb Iran: Trump to Imus - January 12, 2007
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/12/donald-trump-lets-bomb-iran/

Donald Trump: Let’s bomb Iran.Trump today on Bush’s speech: “You know, the one thing I sorta liked was what they were saying about Iran. I believe you have to go in and strike Iran — not with soldiers. You know, it’s not a world of soldiers anymore. It’s a world of air. It’s a world of different kinds of, you know, we’ve changed.”

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 01:30 PM
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26. Hey, he can't bat 1000, .666 is pretty good, Bush out, and Iraq disaster.
Geez, it's just a picture...I don't think, even now, that * would even make it on his show to get fired.

Recalling his behavior early in his career, when I was in NYC, he's improved (he'd chase off rent control folks). He did tell the naked truth one more time. He said the economy is always better under Democrats than Republicans.

How about this:

Kompressor says "Impeachment Now"
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Administrator1 Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 09:26 AM
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12. Impeachment
The founding fathers placed the impeachment clause in the Constitution as a safeguard for the people against tyranny. Congress, in refusing to exercise this right on behalf of the people who put them there, are neglecting their duty and oaths of office.

The late Barbara Jordan (D-Texas) made an eloquent case for impeachment before the House Judiciary Committee in 1974.

If you favor impeachment, please listen to this recording. Further, if you want to do your part, place the link on your website or any with which you are affiliated. If Congress will not exercise the people's Constitutional rights we must speak out.

http://www.massachusettsobserver.com/barbarajordan.htm

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:27 AM
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19. A huge WELCOME TO DU!!!!!
What an entrance, The Hon. Barbara Jordan, (D-TX) ... one of the greats!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:41 AM
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13. k&r!
Thank you!

:)
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:50 AM
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15. Impeachment is the only sane thing to do at this point.
Easy, quick, clean.

K&R.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:55 AM
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16. Yes it is.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:27 AM
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20. And to thinkboth you and I support it!
Edited on Fri Jul-27-07 11:28 AM by autorank

I declare us both sane!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:49 AM
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22. Will you put that in writing?
I could use that during my campaign.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 03:03 PM
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27. With pleasure Dr. Rank will oiblige.
You can just send me some working and a Franklin, we're good to go;)

...plus the url for the campaign sign. If Gore doesn't fulfill his destiny,
I'm behind you guys all the way!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 03:27 PM
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28. Becoming vice-president of the United States of America is so simple & easy...
I marvel that everyone isn't doing it!

All it takes is a some friends a few bucks.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:03 PM
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35. Key terms for your supporters...

Walking around money & the commercial vote. An investment in your future.

Wezeball or wazhizname needs to dig deep, until it hurts. You think he will?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:38 PM
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36. Deep into what?
Just what exactly are you implying here?

I never met that Palfrey woman, and I must remind you that your Supreme Court "seat" could be at risk.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:41 AM
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21. Kickin' & R'ed
But sheesh. . .I just swear there's enough overt criminality that there is no sane reason we can't demand multiple resignations.

Call me deluded.

Lovely montage as always.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 03:49 PM
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29. Great! and now of all times Bush is at the peak of being exposed for the liar he is and
be exposed to the world as a corrupt loser president, Iran better be on the alert with this whack-job being in charge pushing any serious buttons! (I hope there's a fail-safe in place!)
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 02:16 AM
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38. "failsafe in place" -- I'm afraid...
...that there isn't, at least not a good enough failsafe.

What good is a ruling class if they let this kind of insanity happen in the first place and
continue for any time after it's apparent that everything is collapsing.

The Baker Iraq study group looked promising, in a pedestrian sort of way, but that went no
where.

We're in the midst of a "management" civil war and there's no winner yet.

With 25% approval and dropping, they better fix it quickly. Why, we the people, may start
thinking, "Hell, we can do a better job than this."
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 03:57 PM
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31. Calling him crazy is too easy.... just an excuse. He's not even a sociopath.
He's graduated to psychopath.





No, agent mike... it isn't me. some kid got into my computer.


:hi:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 02:13 AM
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37. :) Work hard, get a promotoin...it's the cooperative corporate way.


Caligula



:hi::toast::hi:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 07:54 PM
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32. Kick. (nt)
:kick:
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