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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:46 AM
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Ummm ok...who here wants a "European-type state"
Edited on Fri Jul-27-07 10:47 AM by Perky
Romney: Americans Angry With Iraq War

By AMY LORENTZEN
Associated Press Writer

ADEL, Iowa (AP) -- Presidential hopeful Mitt Romney said Friday that the country is angry over the lack of progress in the Iraq war, a stinging assessment of the Bush administration's handling of the conflict from a Republican candidate.

Campaigning in Iowa, the former Massachusetts governor also argued that despite the nation's frustration over the war, voters aren't ready to replace President Bush with a Democrat.

"I know the Democrats are getting all ready, they are measuring the drapes and getting the carpet all ready for how they are going to take over the White House, and I think they are going to get a big surprise," Romney told a crowd gathered at a golf course. "America is not happy with how the war in Iraq is going, and is angry. But America is not about to take a sharp left turn and put somebody in the White House who would turn America into a European-type state."


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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:47 AM
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1. Like, perhaps, Sweden?
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:57 AM
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13. Ja, tak! (NT)
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Exiled in America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:48 AM
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ummm..... I do.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:48 AM
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2. Not me!
God forbid we should have healthcare, worker's rights and a leader who can read past a third-grade level.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:49 AM
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3. or proper news, with proper reporters...
...much more vacation time, and decent fucking beer....
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:58 AM
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17. And in three different languages, probably.
> God forbid we should have ... a leader who can read past a third-grade level.

And in three different languages, probably.

Tesha
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:00 AM
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19. Live in a "WE" instead of a "ME" country? Hell no, I won't go!!!




pssst..... which way to the plane.....
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:51 AM
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4. That wouldn't be too bad; but it's unlikely to happen
I like America, of course, but adopting some of Europes saner policies would be a good idea.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:51 AM
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5. Oh yes, European-type states are the pits!
I mean, no one could survive living in a country with a communist extremist ruler like, say, Merkel or Chirac, could they? Or even that crazy leftist Gordon Brown.

Demonizing EUROPE now? Romney is nuts!
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:36 AM
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32. Yeah Merkel really sucks...
guess that's why Germany is experiencing the greatest period of economic growth and satisfaction with the economy in decades. :wow:

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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:52 AM
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6. I want an American-style state that takes care of Americans and not corporations n/t
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:52 AM
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7. That is a new analogy of the left
Never heard of the left being accused of trying to turn the US into a Europe.
:shrug:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:39 AM
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33. I wonder if the movie Sicko is prompting this new talking point?
Does anyone know if Romney has received much of his campaign money from HMOs or health insurance corporations?
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 01:51 PM
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54. It's actually a pretty old theme...
...the whole "decadent Europe" thing. It was mostly an anti-immigrant meme, but it was invoked to fight labor activists, whether home-grown or Marxists from abroad.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:52 AM
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8. like norway, which was voted one of the best places to live
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:55 AM
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11. depends on WHERE in Europe.
Edited on Fri Jul-27-07 10:56 AM by WoodrowFan
well, that depends on WHERE in Europe. If he means that I'd prefer a social welfare net that works, a President with more than 2 brain cells, a higher quality of living, etc, then yep, I do.


(sorry Lionness, I meant to reply to the OP, not you)
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:58 AM
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16. i agree with you, i dont want us to turn into Poland, for example.
but norway, sweden, finland would be ideal.
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Devlzown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:54 AM
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9. America must evolve a good deal more
before something like that can happen.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:01 AM
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21. Like grow beyond adolescence, you mean?
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Devlzown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:06 AM
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24. Precisely.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:11 AM
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27. That would mean grounding every single one of the misadministration, for starters...
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Giant Robot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 01:02 PM
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52. We've hit adolescence?
:shrug:

The way certain people act in this country *cough administration cough* it would seem they are petulant children acting out their tantrums on the world stage.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 03:15 PM
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62. I must admit, I was terribly wrong. You're right!
:banghead:

How could I have given them so much credit?

Thanks for that bit of reality.

Could I pleeeeez take a nap now?

Petulant children wear me out.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:55 AM
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10. I'd prefer an early 21st Century European-type state to
the early-mid 20th Century European-type state the corporatists are hell-bent on moving us toward
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:56 AM
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12. And lose our sacred culture of death?? No way!!
In America, we have the choice to ignore people who are sick and can't afford health care. In pinko Europe, they force you to do something about it.

In America, we kill people who kill people to prove that killing people is wrong. In Europe, they probably give those guys quiche or something.
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:57 AM
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14. Well that's a relief...
imagine how fucked we'd be with single-payer universal access health care, a subsidized K through 16 educational system, functional unions, fewer potholes, an appreciation of art, the three-hour supper, a well-funded and efficient mass transit system, belief in the scientific method (rather than biblical fairy tales), proportional representation, appreciation for leisure time rather than overwork, high-mileage cars and high speed limits (if at all), nobody named Bush running anything...

Yup, it's dystopian all right. Thank gawd for the Atlantic Ocean or those teeming socialist hordes would be upon us in no time.


wp
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WritersBlock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:59 PM
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50. Emmm... I hate to disillusion you about that pothole thing.


But most of the rest is fairly accurate ;)

"teeming socialist hordes" Love it!

:rofl:

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lapislzi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:57 AM
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15. Good heavens, no!
What would I do with 6 weeks vacation? Free health care? Are you nuts? Subsidized college? Day care? Please, oh please, Mr. Romney save us from the evils of European socialism!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:58 AM
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18. SOCIALISM!!! SOCIALISM!!! COMMIE!!!! COMMIE!!!
:rofl:

Those guys are so silly.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:00 AM
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20. I think that would be A-OK for me.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:01 AM
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22. Looks like they are getting scared of
Americans rejecting the Kill For Oil program and the popularity Sicko is enjoying.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:03 AM
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23. Like Norway, Sweden, or even, Ireland?
Ireland, where Seniors get all their medications for FREE?

Nah, I don't want that. I'll keep the crappy system we've got here, thanks. :sarcasm:
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:08 AM
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25. Your question reminds me of a conversation I had with some native Cubans (not exiles).

I was surprised to hear that they were eager to develop some capitalism after Castro died. In response to my surprise, they said, "Sure we want capitalism, just not American style capitalism".
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:09 AM
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26. Sounds good...sign me up
Even Albania is more laughs than Utah...
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:14 AM
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28. Would it mean the public would support jazz?
I'll take it, then.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:17 AM
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29. Norway is a great country.
They've got a king and beautiful native costumes. Not to mention all the shiny happy people that live there.

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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:18 AM
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30. Romney is making a Xenophobic appeal to rural america
A Golf Cource in Adel, Iowa 20 miles from Downtown Des Moines

How many John Birch-typss do you think were in that crowd
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:33 AM
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31. BAAAADDDDD Old Europe
Edited on Fri Jul-27-07 11:33 AM by 48percenter
:spank: :spank: :spank:

No we don't want any of that leftist shit like well-networked and functioning public transportation, healthcare for all, recycling, green energy, separation of church and state.

Fuck that!

:eyes:
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OutNow Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:59 AM
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34. Yes!
I'll sign up for all the stuff people have already mentioned, but I want to emulate Germany rather than Ireland. Germany - great beer; Ireland - Guinness - blahhhggg.


Oh - plus I already speak German. :-}
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:00 PM
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35. Ewww! Yucky Europe!
:eyes:
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:04 PM
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36. Yes, and there is a problem with that?
A country where people care about each other? A country where a corporation is not a person?

Sounds good to me. If not, can I get a free ticket to emigrate to one of those nasty European States? Where I can get decent healthcare without going broke (again)?
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SteelPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:06 PM
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37. Fearmongering
Most of the people who would say such tripe, or get riled up by it, really have no idea what it means.

"European-type state" is moron code for 'they want to raise your taxes and make your children communist'

God, why won't these assholes just go away. I'm so sick of their moronic bile.
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BulletproofLandshark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:06 PM
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38. Sign Me Up!
The "American-type state" has been passe for a while.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:08 PM
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39. I do. Europe seems infinitely more civilized than the US.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:20 PM
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45. .........................
:thumbsup:
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:13 PM
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40. If that's what it takes to get a decent al dente pasta, fine by me.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:15 PM
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41. Oh geez, wasn't Mittsy throwing the French boogy-man around last week?
this guy's campaign is pathetic. I'm actually hoping he'll be the nominee, he is so freaking silly and stupid. Oh, wait a minute, what am I saying, we "elected" silly and stupid twice.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:17 PM
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43. I don't know he LOOKS kinda "French" to me-know what I mean? Maybe he's hiding something?
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:27 PM
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47. You're right, Romney SOUNDS kind of French too doesn't it?..n/t
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 02:31 PM
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57. I don't know maybe. Do Mormons come from France?
"Mormon" really sounds "french"
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:16 PM
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42. Wasn't Ireland rated the nicest place in the world to live?
Someone should ask Romney, "What is it about peace and prosperity that you don't like?"
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:20 PM
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44. Well tell me now, Mr. Romney, is Ainglish the official language of a Yurupeen-type-a state?
If not, and I hear the answer is no, then you can just forget it!
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:22 PM
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46. "Measuring the drapes" again...
:rofl:

And, it depends on what he means by "European-type state." All he really means, I think, is "rah rah sissboombah, America is Number ONE, we don't need no stinkin' EUROPE wussiness," etc.
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FredStembottom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:31 PM
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48. No. Frikkin'. Way!
Edited on Fri Jul-27-07 12:32 PM by FredStembottom
I want to claw and scrape 24/7 and still fail!

I want 3 jobs with at least 2 of them constantly under threat of being sent to China - with 112 "guest workers" poised to take the third one!
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:54 PM
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49. Me! I want Italy in the winter and the UK in summer.

Have passport, will travel.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 01:00 PM
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51. And become CIVILIZED????!! Perish the thought!!!
"America is the only nation in history which miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to degeneration without the usual interval of civilization." Georges Clemenceau
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 01:04 PM
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53. Can't we just take the social programs and not take the god-awful bureaucracy?
And their educational systems are fucked in the head. The free bit is good, the one and only one path, chosen at age 8 is seriously evil.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 01:56 PM
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55. I want one! May I have Monaco, PLEEEEEASE?!
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 01:58 PM
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56. I want France :) n/t
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 02:42 PM
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58. You must CHOOSE - Europe or Utah! (cue ominous music) n/t
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 02:44 PM
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59. BRING IT ON!
Tea and toast and muffin rings how are ya. A secular america is what I dream about.
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AnExtremist Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 02:46 PM
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60. Germany is European, and * is heading us there some 70 years back N/T
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Tracer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 03:10 PM
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61. Looks like the Mittster didn't learn anything ...
... from his two years in France! when he was over there proselytizing (while killing his car passenger in a crash).

And furthermore, O Mighty Mitt, the American people are NOT angry at the "lack of progress in Iraq" --- they are angry that we are there in the effing first place!!
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