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Pamela Troy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:47 AM
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Conservapedia and Augusto Pinochet: The Merits of Mass Murder
Edited on Fri Jul-27-07 11:51 AM by Pamela Troy
Pinochet was responsible for the death of at least 3,197 of his opponents. (March 19, 2007 edit, 2.17 pm)

Critics hold Pinochet was responsible for the death of at least 3,200 of his opponents. (March 28, 2007 edit, 2:32 pm)

Critics hold Pinochet is said to be responsible for the death of 3,200 of his opponents. (April 12, 2007 edit, 10:03 pm)

General Augusto Pinochet is a bit of a problem for the right. His embrace of free market economics is as widely publicized as his regime’s mass murder and torture of liberals and leftists, so he can’t be ascribed to the left, (at least not for another few decades.) It would simplify matters, of course, for right-wingers to denounce Pinochet as a murderous thug, to say that his human rights record puts him beyond the pale.

But many of them just won’t do that. They like him too much.

So Pinochet’s brutality must be finessed, presented in a manner that makes it less disturbing. The editors at Conservapedia are faced with the task of, not just misrepresenting the history of Pinochet’s regime, but of explaining how a man whose name became synonymous with torture and political repression could have been such good friends with conservative icons like Margaret Thatcher and Jesse Helms.

One approach, as illustrated at the beginning of this chapter, is to imply that the one-sided bloodbath following Pinochet’s takeover is the stuff of legend rather than fact. A simple and bald statement: “Pinochet was responsible for the death of at least 3,197 of his opponents” is changed to something that “critics say,” inviting Conservapedia’s young readers to assume that there’s some question about whether or not Pinochet was in fact responsible. The words “at least” are removed, fixing the body count in the reader’s mind at 3,200 (The editor generously rounds it up by three corpses.) And in the last edit, the “critics hold” addition is shifted to the even more passive “Pinochet is said to be…” pushing the phraseology even closer to the language used in folklore. Pinochet’s victims are thus made more and more abstract, more and more unreal to the students Conservapedia is “teaching.”

This effort to sell the idea that there’s some dispute about exactly who was responsible for the killings and repression pervades the entries dealing with the 1973 coup. The article on Salvador Allende includes the following passage:

In 1973, at the height of numerous Cold War crisis's occurring simulataneously worldwide, the socialist government was overthrown in a coup d'etat. The Chilean National Commision on Truth and Reconciliation concluded in its 1991 report, "Within hours Chile's elected president, Salvador Allende, lay dead (this report concludes that he committed suicide), and a military junta presided by General Augusto Pinochet took power.” Many in the US vigorously protested both the CIA's alleged involvement in the coup, and the appalling human rights violations that followed, including the murder of Victor Jara, a popular songwriter and musician and ardent supporter of Allende. Jara was one of several thousand Chileans who were taken into custody by Pinochet's forces the day after the coup. He was tortured for several days, then shot to death.

It would probably surprise anyone familiar with the history of what Time Magazine referred to as the “carefully planned and meticulously executed" overthrow of Allende in Chile to “learn” in Conservapedia that there is some doubt about whether or not Augusto Pinochet was leading the military junta immediately after the coup, or responsible for the actions of that junta’s armed forces in the days following September 11, 1973. And yet the rationalizations offered by one of Consevapedia’s editors in the article’s discussion page are framed as if who was in charge following the coup is an historical mystery akin to what happened to the little princes in the tower. “Perhaps tomorrow you can add some information to the Augusto Pinochet about the 3,000 people who ‘disappeared’ subsequent to the 1973 Chile coup,” he writes. “I understand that (some sources) blame Pinochet for this and have accused him of mass murder.”

“Some sources” that hold Pinochet responsible for the carnage include, of course, contemporary press coverage of the coup and its aftermath, thousands of Chileans who witnessed the coup, including those who actually survived Pinochet’s prisons and torture chambers, thousands of Chileans (and a few Americans) whose children, husbands, wives, brothers, sisters, friends, and parents were among those murdered by Pinochet’s forces, and the 1993 report by the Chilean National Commission on Truth and Reconciliation.

The Numbers Game

Your lurid images pale in comparisons to the stacks of skulls in Cambodia’s killing fields. Do the math: 3,000 vs. 2,000,000. Why are you trying to magnify a few cases of human rights violations in Chile?

(From Conservapedia’s Salvador Allende Discussion page.)

Numbers are so much easier to deal with than the “lurid images” of individual human victims. Numbers don’t bleed or vomit or urinate. They don’t beg for water or for their lives. They don’t weep or scream. or have relatives waiting for them, mourning them, demanding explanations… It’s less upsetting to simply “do the math,” line up digits, give them labels – this is group A, this is group B – and do a simple equation. How, after all, can someone decide how to react to the discovery of a mass grave of nude, bound and tortured civilians if there’s no chart to consult?

This numbers game has been popular among online right-wingers ever since the 1997 publication of THE BLACK BOOK OF COMMUNISM, a controversial work that puts the number of 20th century communist victims at 100 million. Frequently this “the Commies-killed-more-people-than-antiCommies” argument is offered alongside accusations of liberal double-standards when it comes to human rights – though the definition of “double standard” is a strange one. The above quote, for instance, raises disturbing questions about how the author feels human rights should be approached, implying as it does that the proper response is to refrain from criticizing the murder of 3,000 by a free market thug in Chile because that “few” is morally trumped by the murder of 2,000,000 by a communist thug in Cambodia.

It’s an argument that would come close to making sense only in a debate in which liberals had been seeking to excuse the carnage of Pol Pot’s regime. Since there has, in fact, been no rash of liberal commentators writing in major newspapers or magazines about how misunderstood and maligned Pol Pot was, the reader is left with the sense that in fact, the idea is to give the right-wing carte-blanche when it comes to political murder until they can make up the presumed difference and reach that 100 million mark.

In other words, 3,000 dead is compared to 2,000,000 and deemed to be “not so bad.” This approach to “right” and “wrong” is appealing to many because it seems so straightforward. Who can argue with the fact that the number 3,000 is less than the numbers 2,000,000 or 100 million?

Unfortunately it’s a mindset calculated to excuse policies of political extermination, serving the double purpose of dehumanizing the victims and distracting attention away from why they were killed and how. It downplays the moral difference between a government that permits dissent and a government that routinely abuses and murders dissenters.

The context that needs to be kept in mind when assessing the morality or immorality of a regime is not whether the political murders committed by that government rise to three digits, or four digits, or higher. It’s whether people living within that regime feel free to openly dissent without the reasonable concern that doing so will put their lives and physical well-being at risk.

There’s no significant ethical difference between a regime that decides it has successfully frightened the opposition into silence by murdering one thousand, and a regime that doesn’t think it has quite reached that goal even after killing one hundred thousand. The chilling effect on dissent remains in both. And it’s a chilling effect that many on the far right seem to consider acceptable if those who are frightened into silence are leftists.

Low-balling the political killings under Pinochet still, of course, puts the body count in the thousands. And so the next step is to imply that the victims were so incompetent or so immoral that the responsibility lies with them rather than with the Pinochet regime. A handy grammatical tool for this is…

The Passive Voice

The Pinochet government is alleged to be one of the most repressive in the Americas. During his time in power over 3,000 people were killed or vanished. This includes treasonous Marxist revolutionaries and people who died in private disputes.

(From Conservapedia’s Augusto Pinochet article.)

The above excerpt gets us all a bit closer to the reality of what drives the right’s refusal to reject Pinochet. It’s the premise that leftists and liberals are bad people -- and imprisoning, torturing and killing bad people isn’t as terrible as imprisoning, torturing, and killing good people. Conservapedia editors refer to the torture and murder that took place in Chile, but they take pains to do so without ever actually saying who did the torturing and murdering. At the same time, they imply that the victims were incompetent and corrupt. In the Pinochet article, for instance, the following revisions were made to a passage dealing with Pinochet’s takeover:

He came to power as a member of a council of military leaders who <u>after the</u> overthrew of the government of President Salvador Allende on 11 September 1973. Allende, a Marxist, had been elected to his position democratically with a 36% plurality in 1970, but he had been accused of violating the Chilean constitution and had been condemned for his conduct by the Chilean legislature and by civil society organisations.

Pinochet, we are told, was just part of a group that “came to power” after the overthrow of Allende. The fact that the coup itself was a military overthrow is deliberately omitted. At the same time Allende is referred to as “a Radical Marxist” who hadn’t really won the popular vote and been “condemned for his conduct.” Thus, the reader is left with the impression that the “military council” simply stepped in after that wild-eyed Allende was overthrown by a popular uprising of outraged Chilean citizens. The specific “conduct” for which Allende was condemned is not described in detail, probably because doing so would highlight the fact that this conduct didn’t include the imprisonment, torture, and murder of his political opponents.

A striking attempt to subtly shift blame from Pinochet can be found in the discussion section of the article on Pinochet victim Victor Jara, where a Conservapedia editor makes the following edit:

Jara was executed killed a few days later”

and comments: “Yes, it is a sad story.”

One of the more memorable moments in that great HBO serious The Sopranos is a flashback to when young Tony Soprano, at about fourteen, witnesses his father chopping off the finger of a terrified man who’d been unable to repay a gambling debt. Afterwards, when Tony and his father are alone together, his father tenderly explains to him that what Tony had seen “was very sad.” The lesson, his father says, is that Tony should never, never gamble.

Thus a violent crime is justified to a child as if it were an unhappy stroke of fate, a “sad” event resulting, not from Johnny Soprano holding a man’s arm down and wielding a cleaver, but from the fact that the victim gambled. In the same way, the word “executed” is altered in Conservapedia to the more neutral term, “killed” and Jara’s death is described as something that inspires sorrow rather than anger. The entry on Jara has been deliberately reworded so that it reads as if Jara died, not at the hands of Pinochet’s men, but from some accident or other natural cause.

Is a Little Torture and Mass Murder Really So Terrible When You’re Fighting Communism? Just Asking!

“General Pinochet headed a military government for 16 years (1974-1990) as he fought and defeated communist opponents in Chile.” (From the Conservapedia entry on Augusto Pinochet)

As we’ve seen, justifying Pinochet involves a great deal of precise wording, creative math and a deliberate unfocussing of the eyes. All this effort is aimed, not just at whitewashing the crimes of the Pinochet regime, but at distracting attention away from the reasons for whitewashing the crimes of the Pinochet regime. A heavy freight of implication comes with the above bland statement, in which how Pinochet “fought and defeated communist opponents” is carefully unspoken.

The most frequently cited rationale behind current right wing attempts to present Pinochet as a hero who “defeated communist opponents” can be found in one of the external links included in the Salvador Allende article, a James Whelan editorial from the Wall Street Journal that includes the following:

Suppose Gen. Pinochet and his fellow commanders had not acted? Patricio Aylwin succeeded Gen. Pinochet as the first elected president and was among those imploring the military to act. A constant and acerbic critic in more recent years, he was in 1973 president of his Christian Democrat Party. He said then that if the military had not acted, Chile would have had to mourn the deaths of hundreds of thousands killed at the hands of Red brigades.

There is no hard evidence offered to suggest that either Salvador Allende or any waiting horde of Red Brigade fanatics had plans to slaughter “hundreds of thousands” of Chileans. It’s simply taken as a given that this is what Marxists do. Therefore, it is implied, killing a few thousand liberals and leftists, torturing an additional 24,000, and terrifying the rest into compliance was – and is -- a valid and, in the long run, a humane pre-emptive strategy.

The Pinochet regime is being used by the right to alter the popular perception of political torture and murder. These crimes are no longer being dismissed as unthinkable by mainstream conservatives. Instead, they are being presented as tactics that should, however unpleasant, be weighed and considered by thoughtful, broadminded anti-Communists. As Conservapedia's article on Salvador Allende observes:

Though the nature of the CIA involvement continues to be widely debated, as well as Allende's status as a truly "democratic" leader, many conservatives have argued that the coup against his government was justified, as Allende had totalitarian, Communist ambitions.

American liberals are all-too-often unwilling to acknowledge what this kind of rhetoric reveals about the current right-wing perception of dissent. These attempts to paint the repressive policies of Pinochet as forgivable, even heroic and necessary, are not taking place in a vacuum. They are being offered at a time when there is a steadily increasing drumbeat from the American right, a drumbeat that equates liberalism with communism, opposition to the Bush administration with treason. The danger these attitudes pose, not just to individual liberals and leftists, but to this country, and the ideals this country was founded upon, must be taken seriously.

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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:06 PM
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1. What do you expect for Conservatives? They've always been devout apologists for RW murderers.
I wonder if they would give Che Guevara the same fawning revisions.
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rudeboy666 Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:20 PM
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2. You must break a few eggs to make an omelette
Sadly, this is the type of mentality that some radical lefties share with right wing reactionaries.

Both are dead wrong of course.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 01:10 PM
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3. dear Pamela, I'm actually terrified out of my wits whenever I see a post
because then I'll see what the right really thinks. I can grasp, on an intellectual level, the Straussian doctrine of "lie early, lie often," but you spell it out so completely. My major is in Latin American history, and I know the cesspit of depravity that Washington turned South and Central America into, even before the Cold War. Langley and Arlington have had no compunctions whatsoever about toppling 30-some democracies and murdering millions, on top of which come the '33 Business Plot and Operation Northwoods and Mockingbird--all common knowledge to any informed leftist around the world. But what truly scares the bejeezus out of me is that they have no compunctions about country number 31--the U.S. Controlled opposition? Missile launchers around the capital? Vote rigging? Destruction of individual and social rights? They've done this dozens of times before--so why not at home? And the "freedom-loving" gun nuts and rightist freaks will goosestep right along, just so long as the puppet du jour seems to be "winning."
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 09:58 AM
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7. exactly. It's mind-numbing but true
Not only is the overthrow of Leftist regimes and the killing of Leftists ok, but it is applauded in the world arena. I brought up a few of these, from Chile to Guatemala to Iran in a discussion on another board, and the resident wingnut dittoheads there told me it was a good thing that we toppled those regimes because the world is "like a game of Risk" (another one said Chess).

I reminded them that the "goal of the game is to control all the territories—or "conquer the world"—through the elimination of the other players." In other words, if our strategy is to "eliminate" the other "team" and conquer the world, how does that make us any better than the other "team" we're fighting against? Also, that human beings are involved and that they were cheering the thwarting of Democracy itself.

That's what scares me the most - if a coup is not only possible overseas, but encouraged and cheered by some as necessary to winning the game, then what's to stop a potential coup here from meeting the same reaction? Nothing of course. I have been discussing election fraud problems on that board for years, and I constantly am met with either "get over it" or "both sides do it." They are rather blasé about the whole thing, as long as it's their side who comes out ahead.

Abortion bombings? Those are ok because they support the cause.

Military coups? Fine.

Election rigging? Ok.

Propaganda? Check.

Personally, I do not support these things on either side, even though the Rightists don't believe me. If a Dem were doing the things Bush, Inc. are doing, I would be just as angry if not more so for feeling betrayed. And conversely, if Clinton had done half of what is done now, the Right would have formed some militias. Or at least more than they did. I have no doubt in my mind about that.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 10:26 PM
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13. If you haven't already, read "Conservatives Without Conscience." by
Edited on Sat Jul-28-07 10:43 PM by alfredo
John Dean. It spells it out in clear language. You will understand why the conservatives act like they do.

I understand now why the Communist could not gain support in the political left. There are very few if any authoritarians (or authoritarian followers) in the left. Most authoritarians gravitated to the political right.

I have read several articles about the Trotskyites migrated from the left to the right and formed the early seed of the neo conservative movement. If your crops don't grow in one field, try another.


Excellent article: http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j061303.html
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 04:53 PM
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4. Know your conservative rhetoric.
Well done Pamela....we've allowed RW fascists to revise and describe our history for too long. Pinochet was a brutal, anti-democratic thug installed by the fascists in Bush1's administration. Like father, like son.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 05:45 PM
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5. Thank you Pamela
I don't see you post here very often, but whenever I do I know it is going to be a very well thought out post. You have only put up 63 posts and you are already one of my favorite DUers. Keep up the good work.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 05:57 PM
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6. When Pinochet died, I had an internet exchange with a right winger who cried.
I'd seen him defend Pinochet before, but the day he died, he turned up on the board (not DU, I hasten to add) and said he was in tears (the right winger is British, by the way).

I couldn't really believe it at first. To him, the guy wasn't just excusable, he was a hero. So I did something I have almost never done, and I rejoiced in the death of a human, on the board, because I think that ultra right wingers like that need to know how much their murderous attitudes are hated by normal moderate people like me.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 10:00 AM
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8. exactly. It's not only acceptable but welcomed
They will cheer the bloody overthrow of a Leftist country (or person) and forgive any crimes done in the process. And they call us moral relativists. I guess like everything else, they just project their own faults onto the world.

Scary.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 11:29 AM
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9. So glad you took the time to post this. I've seen this strange warped effect in right-wingers
posting here, one very clearly who was tombstoned after a few days, claiming with his last breath the C.I.A. had nothing to do with the coup there.

Here's a story which astonished, and appalled me the moment I saw it, and I think very worth sharing:
Felipe Aguero could not believe what he was seeing that day in 1988. Mr. Aguero, at the time an instructor at Duke University, was once more in Chile, a country he had left six years earlier with an overwhelming sense of relief.

Even though about 15 other people were in the room, he couldn't stop thinking about a man on his right. They were sitting around a table at a Santiago hotel, participating in a conference organized by the Latin American Faculty of Social Sciences. Mr. Aguero tried to act normal but felt nervous and self-conscious.

"I was staring in disbelief," he recalls. "I couldn't put together the fact that here, in an academic workshop, was a man who I clearly remember as having been in my own personal torture chamber."

When the conference ended, he collected his things and hurried out.

Mr. Aguero, now an associate professor of international and comparative studies at the University of Miami's School of International Studies, would run into the man more than once over the next few years, and eventually would resolve to talk to him about the first time they had met.

During another visit to Santiago, he went to the man's university office but found no one there. As he waited, the fear and anxiety returned, and he crept out of the building before the man came back. After that, he avoided conferences and other academic settings where he thought the man might be. "I thought, if anyone should be feeling bad it should be him, not me."

In March, 13 years after that unnerving meeting, Mr. Aguero finally tried to ease his pain by confronting its source. In a letter to Catholic University of Chile, he wrote that one of its most prominent professors, Emilio Meneses, was part of a military squad that tortured him in 1973 after the coup in Chile. Mr. Aguero didn't ask for the professor's removal -- he just wanted Mr. Meneses' colleagues to know of his role in the 1973 events. "Of his participation I have no doubt," Mr. Aguero wrote.
(snip/...)



Felipe Agüero, Emilio Meneses
http://chronicle.com/free/v47/i49/49a03601.htm

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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 03:30 PM
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10. "Allende had totalitarian, Communist ambitions"

Sounds like the crap the MSM says about Chavez right now.
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 10:42 PM
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14. Yeah, that crossed my mind too.
Calling people dictators just because you don't like them isn't okay. Because the fact is, I don't like him, but this isn't about one person I don't like. It's about everyone living in the country, and if they decide that they don't want him to be president, they can un-elect him, because it's a democracy, and pretending otherwise becomes justification for destroying entire nations. Recent stories about a "single party" are very useful for getting knee-jerk reactions from people who don't read them carefully, and it's important to note that it doesn't mean creating a single-party system, but bringing different leftist groups into a single party, which rightist parties- or other leftist parties, if they chose to- are still free to run against. This has nothing to do with whether or not I like anyone. It's about preserving FACTS. Freepers think it's okay to lie about people if they don't like them. I don't.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 09:25 PM
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11. If the right wing can justify over 3,000 deaths
Then surely they wouldn't mind an even-up trade: let the ordinary people slaughter 3000 of these fascists. Turnabout is fair play.
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Pamela Troy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 12:07 AM
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15. That's precisely the disgusting attitude I'm condemning.
Do you think this is a game? A matter of keeping score?

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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 03:25 PM
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16. Well, that's the thing...
They pretend to think of it like a game. "We killed less people, we're not as bad, we win". But if it was them in danger of losing their lives, then they would immediatley declare that they know that people aren't just numbers.
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 10:13 PM
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12. God.
Damn.
These people.
Are.
CRAZY.

"Then they murdered him. I found it very sad. Then I went to the 7-11 and got a snowcone. I like snowcones. :)"
:puke:
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