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Fri Jul-27-07 02:53 PM
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Interesting Pat Tillman poll... |
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Fri Jul-27-07 02:56 PM
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Fri Jul-27-07 02:56 PM
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Looks like I'm in the majority so far.
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Fri Jul-27-07 02:57 PM
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Fri Jul-27-07 02:58 PM
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4. That is VERY interesting! |
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Fri Jul-27-07 02:59 PM
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5. Wow...Could people be starting to get it? |
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Fri Jul-27-07 03:02 PM
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6. I voted, and it turned out to be with the majority. Amazing. |
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But how can any rational person deduce otherwise?
The only reason they would have burned his journal is if his opinions expressed therein would be against the interests of the administration and therefore harmful to their goals, once released to the public.
And the only conceivable reason I can find for them burning his uniform is to hide some sinister evidence it would reveal - like bullet-holes.
Is there any other reasonable explanation that I'm missing?
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Fri Jul-27-07 03:20 PM
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10. No way. It was a Ranger Squad for dog's sake. |
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They were covering up a fuck-up.
Rangers, unlike Berets, SEALs, and Delta, are usually tough guys who maybe aren't that bright.
They fucked up and freaked out.
And, once they discovered his journal, there was just no way they would let that get out and into the hands of his family.
That said, the close pattern of the hits to the forehead have bothered me since it was first announced. I have shot a lot of people with an M16 and I questioned that from day one. The range had to be awfully tight.
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Sat Jul-28-07 12:21 AM
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16. Something still doesn't add up. |
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If I were CID, I'd be very interested in WHO was in those two platoons and who they were working for. We had 'company' guys in G.I. uniforms in Nam - as you probably know. Not everyone is simply who they say they are. Then again, if I were CID I'd probably not be permitted to go in that direction.
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Sat Jul-28-07 10:07 AM
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21. Would a Ranger kill a Poster Boy without prior approval? Are they that dumb? |
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That would be moron-level dumb. Bush-level, even. How would they know it would be covered up back home?
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Sat Jul-28-07 11:26 AM
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24. That's kinda how I was thinking. |
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You can't bet the farm, hoping that they would hang a Lt Gen out to dry.
If they were going to kill the guy, I would think that they would blow him up.
Not three quick ones to the forehead.
Still, this is one weird picture.
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Fri Jul-27-07 03:03 PM
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From what I read in today's AZ Republic, I tend to think he was murdered, but that it was not part of some big high-level conspiracy, just a pissed-off fellow soldier. Had he come out publicly against the war before he was killed?
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Fri Jul-27-07 11:58 PM
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14. i don't think he had come out publicly, but he was talking about it |
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--as far as i remember hearing
at least to his mom, he kept a diary/journal and was going to meet with ... someone (i forget...norm chomsky maybe?) re this bullshit war
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Fri Jul-27-07 03:14 PM
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8. IMO Tillman was intentionally killed by a US soldier at close range and facts about his death were |
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purposefully covered up for White House PR purposes.
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Fri Jul-27-07 03:16 PM
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9. Don't you think it was more a combination of the last two ? |
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IMO, may have happened like this - Tillman was murdered because of his opinions about the war and U.S. policy. Then they schemed to use a hero's death to promote the war. Also, A lack of any real journalism helped with the cover up!
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Fri Jul-27-07 03:27 PM
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12. I tend to agree with you... they used 3 and 4 together... |
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But it does seem that he was murdered.
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Fri Jul-27-07 03:57 PM
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13. I hate being this cynical but the cover up makes it look bad |
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The soldier who killed him may have been an over zealous nut-case who thought he was actually being Patriotic. Bush uses Executive Privilege - http://youtube.com/watch?v=iYN_DhqbFuU Pat tillman was a true hero who unfortunately was used as a propaganda ploy
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Fri Jul-27-07 03:24 PM
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11. Most seem to think he was murdered because of his opinions on the |
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war. It would make Bush look bad if a national figure like Pat Tillman came back with negative opinions of the war.
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Fri Jul-27-07 11:59 PM
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15. that's exactly what i think. then they had to do their damnest to |
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cover the whole thing up.
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Sat Jul-28-07 12:33 PM
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26. Especially if he then ran for Congress as a Dem. (eom) |
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Sat Jul-28-07 12:22 AM
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17. Not very many votes, but the results are stunning. |
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Sat Jul-28-07 10:19 AM
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23. Love your Steinem quote. Lol... |
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Sat Jul-28-07 04:11 PM
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28. I admit I stole it from someone else on DU, but it pretty much sums |
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up what's going on in our government today.
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Sat Jul-28-07 12:26 AM
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18. How long before freepers complain...... |
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....about no "Nothing happened, move along, nothing to see here" choice?
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Sat Jul-28-07 12:34 AM
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19. I have a lot of company |
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in my opinion. Whoever did it was close and knew who he was aiming at.
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Sat Jul-28-07 09:08 AM
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20. In other words, 95% of the American people... |
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Don't trust the Government.
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Sat Jul-28-07 10:16 AM
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22. Wow, so far, 70% believe ... |
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"Tillman was murdered because of his opinions about the war and U.S. policy." :wow:
DU must have got to the poll first. :-) Only a few hundred votes ...
Without a doubt, Tillman's family and all of us deserve the truth.
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Sat Jul-28-07 12:24 PM
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25. People are getting *very* suspicious. |
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Tillman was accidentally killed by friendly fire and errors were made in the reporting of the incident. 5.6% Tillman was accidentally killed by friendly fire and facts about his death were purposefully covered up. 18.3% Tillman was murdered in a scheme to use a hero's death to promote the war. 5.7% Tillman was murdered because of his opinions about the war and U.S. policy. 70.4% votes: 540
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Sat Jul-28-07 12:34 PM
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27. Minds are starting to change . . . . one of the secretaries in my office |
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stopped me in the hall yesterday to ask if I'd heard about the Tillman news (she knows I'm a political junkie, but as far as I know she isn't particularly interested in the subject at all) -- then said "they murdered that boy, you know" and -- the real kicker -- "makes me wonder whether there might not be something to all those 9/11 conspiracy theories." That led to a 10 minute discussion of LIHOP vs MIHOP -- a subject I've never felt free discussing in the workplace before. Until now!
I can only hope that the tide is starting to turn.
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Sat Jul-28-07 05:51 PM
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29. Was murdered because of opinions on the war and us policies 68.9% |
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Controversy continues to surround the death in Afghanistan of Army Ranger Pat Tillman. Which do you believe is closest to the truth in this case: Tillman was accidentally killed by friendly fire and errors were made in the reporting of the incident. 6.6% Tillman was accidentally killed by friendly fire and facts about his death were purposefully covered up. 18.4% Tillman was murdered in a scheme to use a hero's death to promote the war. 6.1% Tillman was murdered because of his opinions about the war and U.S. policy. 68.9% votes: 604
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Sat Jul-28-07 05:53 PM
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Controversy continues to surround the death in Afghanistan of Army Ranger Pat Tillman. Which do you believe is closest to the truth in this case: Tillman was accidentally killed by friendly fire and errors were made in the reporting of the incident. 6.6% Tillman was accidentally killed by friendly fire and facts about his death were purposefully covered up. 18.3% Tillman was murdered in a scheme to use a hero's death to promote the war. 6.3% Tillman was murdered because of his opinions about the war and U.S. policy. 68.8% votes: 605
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