So, what phrases are you sick of that DUer's use ad nauseum? Here's some of mine!

[Danger Mouse]

1. 'speaking truth to power' - used at least 1,000 times a day by DUer's. I don't know what it means, and I don't think most of them do either.

2. 'meme' - if you can't beat it into my head with a hammer and chisel, then why bother?

3. ':popcorn:' - this one causes my homicidal tendencies to boil to the surface. why do people feel the need to do this at the start of a flamewar? if i could murder a smilie, it would be this one.

4. 'holding their feet to the fire' - okay, okay, we get it already. do we all read from the same script??

5. 'IBTL' - this is the one I'm most guilty of personally. only an asshole posts 'IBTL'...kind of like...oh right, me. dammit.

6. ':eyes:' - this is how people say 'I don't have a real argument so I'm going to pretend your argument is too stupid to respond to.'

7. 'concern' 'concern trolls' 'thanks for your concern' etc. etc. etc. :argh: - just a nasty way of insulting people who say things you don't like.

8. in general, the tendency to dogpile, groupthink, and snipe at people in place of intelligent discourse

Hey, let's show a little individuality, people. Do you want to be like the office prick who says 'think outside the box' and 'change the paradigm' every five minutes? Nobody wants to be him. If you're him, you probably don't want to be.
When a thread contains several dozen instances of 'speaking truth to power'...that's a sign of a problem.
Anyone else have some posting pet peeves on DU?

[Horse with no Name]

1. Can we have the next thread about how sick we are of DU'ers

who want to decide what others can (and can't) say?

[Danger Mouse]

4. I never said I want to decide what people can and can't say.

Just saying that it annoys me.

[cui bono]

182. Maybe you could learn what they mean before deciding that they annoy you.

Speaking truth to power is a great phrase. It means exactly what it says... Speaking the truth to those in power. You really couldn't figure that out?

[Danger Mouse]

190. No, I couldn't. I'm really that stupid.

And even knowing what it means, it still annoys me.
:shrug:
A phrase can be a great thing, but I think that one is about done to death. Just my opinion.

[babylonsister]

97. You forgot this!

:eyes:

[Danger Mouse]

99. I can do more eyerolls than you!

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
I AM THE WINNER!

[ryanus]

384. ha ha.....rolls eyes

:eyes:

amen brother\sister

[Solly Mack]

2. "Yes! We're all individuals"

[Danger Mouse]

9. Yes, we ARE all different!

:P

[Solly Mack]

15. I'm not

hehehehehe

[Swamp Rat]

21. No fair!!!

I was supposed to say that!!! x(

[Solly Mack]

25. off to the comfy chair with me

[Cha]

53. We need that DU lexicon that

AmyStrange wrote up!

[Danger Mouse]

56. oh lord, that contains half the things i'm talking about...

[Swamp Rat]

61. LOL!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=184&topic_id=6715&mesg_id=6810

[Cha]

75. Euuu! They're

gonna at it! :smoke:

[piedmont]

158. ,

[Joanie Baloney]

252. Hey!

Is that a young Linda Evans (circa M-M-M-Mitchell) holding a golden dildo?

Priceless. ;)

JB

P.S. Oh yeah...I think she shifted my paradigm.

[Danger Mouse]

22. It's been too long...

since i've seen that masterpiece :cry: i remember the night i was watching it...back in 2003-2004, drinking a 40 of olde english...lord only knows why i was into malt liquor for awhile, that stuff is nasty.

[Solly Mack]

30. I was long into some Bull one night, years ago...many years ago

I still have nightmares

[tblue37]

334. Maybe we all look alike, too.

Well, I know that at least I look alike.

[Canuckistanian]

130. Not me. I'm the same.

That's my little declaration of independence.

[Mythsaje]

3. I LOATHE that eye-roll smiley

I don't care about the popcorn one. But the only time I ever see the eye-roll smiley is when someone is being an ass.

And I don't mind the word "meme" either. It's just another way to say "Talking Point" or "lie" or "piece of disinformation" or "fucking bullshit."

Unless it's ours, of course, and then it's just a mindworm that gets the message out to more people.

:D

[Danger Mouse]

17. Yeah, the eyeroll one is rarely used for any other purpose.

Something about that popcorn punk pisses me off. :popcorn: the vacant, content stare...the nonstop stuffing the face...

[BattyDem]

20. When I see it, I get a craving for popcorn

Seriously! :blush:

[Danger Mouse]

24. At least you didn't say 'series' =P

nt

[tblue37]

335. Me too. I can almost feel the delightful crunch in my mouth as

I watch him stuff his face. That smiley has caused me to pop some up--more than once.

[madokie]

73. this one has beer is it ok ;-)

:-)

[Danger Mouse]

82. that one's cool.

but where are the peanuts?

[madokie]

96. plum forgot them, sorry

[Mutineer]

81. All the smilies piss me off.

It's like a 13-year old girl run amuck.

[Danger Mouse]

83. WHY DO YOU HATE US, MUTINEER???

:) :-) x( :-( :( ;-) ;) :D }( ;( :P :* :+ :7 B-) O8) :evilfrown: :evilgrin: :hippie: :party: :toast: :bounce: :mad: :puke: :eyes: :smoke: :think: :crazy: :silly: :wtf: :argh: :freak: :dunce: :hangover: :nopity: :hurts: :boring: :spank: :wow: :beer: :grr: :nuke: :scared: :thumbsdown: :thumbsup: :dem: :kick: :shrug: :puffpiece: :loveya: :donut: :tinfoilhat: :hug: :grouphug: :cry: :pals: :headbang: :banghead: :dilemma: :blush: :rant: :sarcasm: :woohoo: :applause: :hide: :popcorn: :rofl: :spray: :patriot: :yoiks:

[UpInArms]

235. rolf!

[KamaAina]

89. Hey, just an eye-rolling minute there, pal!

:eyes: :eyes:

I often use it after describing some piece of repuke tomfoolery that leaves me at a loss for words. If that makes me an ass, then... :kick: it is!

[Danger Mouse]

92. It's not necessarily the smilie itself, it's the intent of the user...

;)

[Mythsaje]

320. In that context, it's fine...

It's when it's aimed at fellow DUers that I find it offensive.

[orleans]

270. when i see the popcorn i interpret it as the poster saying "this is going

to get interesting"

i don't view it as a negative

[Danger Mouse]

306. it's been used like that many times...

what annoys me is when people use it at the start of a flame war. not contributing anything to the discussion, just pouring some gasoline on the flames.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

198. Could one make a case for judicious use of the eye-roll smiley?

It seems there might be appropriate circumstances for its employ.

Maybe?

MKJ

[Danger Mouse]

200. of course.

everything's fine in moderation. i'm just griping about stuff that gets OVERUSED by duer's.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

203. Well, the smileys are best in very small doses.

I'm dying to post the eye-roll here, yet resisting for the greater good.

How about :woohoo:, it's really cute! MKJ


On edit, EH, great thread, thanks.










P.S. :yourock:

[Danger Mouse]

210. why thank you.

it has been a very good thread, if i don't say so myself :)

[Bluerthanblue]

284. how stupid....

...i am... i use the eye roll smiley when i've made a mistake,- or to acknowledge my ignorance, i didn't see it as a comment on someone being an ass. :eyes:

but then, i'm not the brightest bulb on the string...






oh, and i see the "speaking truth to power" as a quick way of saying having the courage to confront the dragon, whoever the dragons may disguise themself to be.

silly me :eyes:

[Danger Mouse]

307. very silly.

:hi:

[texastoast]

5. Now that you bring it up

Not really.

[BattyDem]

6. If we eliminate all of those things ...

there would only be about 5 posts a day! :P

[Danger Mouse]

13. And every one of those posts would contain an inside joke

or a freeperism.

[BattyDem]

16. LOL ... that's probably true

:hi:

[mmonk]

7. The word "extremist"

eom.

[Danger Mouse]

19. an example? this one i am unfamiliar with.

:hi:

[mmonk]

26. There are plenty.

I'm even beginning to think that's my middle name or something. But then I check my birth certficate and no, it's still what I thought it was.

[EST]

8. I'll tell you what bugs me-

The first is the continued use of dipshit words and phrases picked up on free republic until they are too worn out to crawl away, whimpering.
The use of "noone" when the poster actually means "no one," contracting two words to make a non-word.

[Danger Mouse]

11. moran, series, screwn, and the like?

:hi:

[tblue37]

336. I actually love "screwn."

It reminds me of the joke about the tourist at a Boston convention who asked his cabbie if he knew where he could get scrod. The cabbie replied, "Sure, but it's been a long time since I have heard it used in the pluperfect tense like that."

Bada-bing.

[SammyWinstonJack]

36. toll?

:shrug:

[EST]

49. Tanks.

I wuss gonig to smell it "tall" but cudna werk it right.

[madokie]

79. hell I thought noone was something you went home at lunch time for

no wonder the post that use noone never made sense to me,

[EST]

279. I think it is pronounced "noon-eee"

Something like a "nooner" only it's the person on the bottom.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

10. Any Phrase That OPERATIONMINDCRIME Uses.

:evilgrin:

[Danger Mouse]

12. seriously.

fuck nader.
:rofl:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

23. LOL

[mmonk]

39. Nah

;-)

[enigmatic]

14. This is an easy one for me

People WHO POST THREAD TITLES WITH SCREAMING/semi-SCREAMING CAPS!!! :D

[Danger Mouse]

18. WEHAT ARE TYOU TYALKING ABOUT????

:hi:

[mmonk]

42. NO WAY

Are you series?

[Danger Mouse]

45. OMGZ, stop it you moran!!!!

or you're screwn!!

[mmonk]

52. WoW

ThAts HUGH!!!!

[Danger Mouse]

63. stop, stop, before shame causes me to catch fire!

:cry:

[lyonn]

202. Confession time, I once spelled huge "hugh"

through ignorance or neglect. Wasn't long until I noticed people making fun of freepers for spelling it that way. Where is that smiley with the red face? Now where is the spell check?

[Danger Mouse]

218. freeper troll!!!!!

:P

[LostInAnomie]

27. Strawman - Most people don't actually know what the hell it means or how to use it.

People using strawmen - Because it is a dishonest way to try to win an argument.

People posting intentionally divisive topics and then acting surprised when flame wars start.

People using the phrase "enabling fascism" for every thing that they disagree with.

Small groups of extremists starting a divisive thread and then PM bombing each other for backup and swarming.

People comparing modern day events to some of the greatest historical triumphs in our nations history.

People making blanket, broad-brush statements about groups of DUers or DU in general (sexist, homophobic, racist, knee jerk, etc.).

People recommending the shit out of a thread to prove a point instead of because of actual content.

Aggrandizement of contemporary public figures.

[Danger Mouse]

29. All of those are great.

Of those, my favorite is people comparing modern day events to some of the greatest...too lazy to type the rest :P
I think the same thing applies to people, as well. 'Wow, Cindy Sheehan is better than Gandhi!' :bandhead:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

47. Gotta Agree WIth You 100% On Every One Of Them.

Great list!

I just want to add one more:

When posters say "ok, you can have the last word now" to people in a condescending manner, as if the poster shouldn't be expected to respond to the prior attack done before the declaration. Allowing someone to have the last word is honorable when done appropriately, which is when someone summarizes their argument politely and then allows the other poster to offer their final insight. But when it's done only as a way to try and undermine the opposition in such a way to portray that if the poster responds, they're doing something wrong; and when done in a way that the argument hadn't been expected to come to a conclusion but the "you can have the last word now" statement was just thrown out of the blue to portray the opposition as reactionary; is quite childish, weak, deceptive and stupid.

I see some do that to others frequently and it's such a ridiculous way to end a debate.

[Danger Mouse]

55. I cannot stand condescension. It is one of my biggest pet peeves.

Since I consider it incredibly disrespectful. I'm guilty of it, too, at times. Doesn't mean I like it.

[Rabrrrrrr]

68. Oh, yes. Totally. I am *totally* with you on that one.

Yeah, totally.

:eyes:

[theredpen]

111. I guess some people just can't handle condescension

...and we should cater to them. Don't worry, I won't ever be condescending to you. Not even once.
:eyes:

[Danger Mouse]

114. Boo.

Boooo.
:P

[spacelady]

87. Have you ever let someone have the last word on DU, OMC?

:D BTW, this is my favorite smilie!

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

93. All The Time. Why?

[spacelady]

95. Why? I asked because I just have never seen you do that. n/t

[spacelady]

201. Some of the most eloquent posts are those that aren't posted at all...

I like your style, OMC!

[Danger Mouse]

94. Everybody play nice.

:P

[babylonsister]

98. And this is my favorite question!

:popcorn: :rofl:

[Kingshakabobo]

214. Do you mean like THIS?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=402052#410539

OPERATIONMINDCRIME Wed Mar-14-07 02:23 PM:
So I'll let you have the last word now because this has been a monumental waste of time trying to get you to understand these facts. I have no reason to believe, no matter how many times I have to repost the facts, that you will all of a sudden become aware to why you were in the wrong here. I fully expect your reply to repeat yet again the same false statements, accusations and premises that I've already handily defeated and refuted ten times over now. So go for it. I can't stop you. But I'm done. There's nothing more I can possibly do to explain this to you.

So I'll let you have your last words. Have at it.


.........
:rofl:

[Swamp Rat]

236. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[datasuspect]

248. POW!! BING!!! ZAP!!!

too rich, just way too rich.

[Danger Mouse]

250. Well now.

:hi:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

289. Nope. In Fact, I'm A Bit Surprised You And A Few Below You Were Foolish Enough To Think So.

Pay attention to this part:

"But when it's done only as a way to try and undermine the opposition in such a way to portray that if the poster responds, they're doing something wrong; and when done in a way that the argument hadn't been expected to come to a conclusion but the "you can have the last word now" statement was just thrown out of the blue to portray the opposition as reactionary; is quite childish, weak, deceptive and stupid."

What's meant by that is when a poster just throws it out there without having really given their final thoughts or any reasoned arguments whatsoever, but instead do so with the ONLY purpose being to paint the person responding as reactionary and with no ability do debate; as if to say "yeah yeah, we know you need to get the last word, so go babble something else since you need to feed your ego" blah blah blah. It is referencing when there was no real finality or drawing down of the argument or intend to close the argument through actual debate, but instead when it is done not as a closing but as an actual attack on the poster. Can you not understand this difference?

For example: What you posted above of mine does not fall into this category. There was a lengthy debate beforehand and I summarized my arguments and issued my final thoughts, while giving a sense of closure on my part. I then threw the ball into your court for you to have your final thoughts. Nothing wrong with it when it is done in such a way. If you actually opened your eyes to that post, you'd see how lengthy it was and that there was true effort to refute your silly arguments and summarize why they were wrong. Debates have to come to a close sometime, and there's nothing wrong with a poster initiating that effort.

But my post you linked is not anywhere near what I'm talking about. I'm talking about when the response offered no real logic or refutation, was in the middle of an attempted debate, and thrown right out of the blue not with the purpose of actually summarizing position and finding closure, but only as a personal attack on the opposition.

So I find it quite funny that you used it to try some childish 'gotcha' on me, even though it isn't at all the type of post being referenced. I find it even funnier that a few others who fail to have critical thinking skills even applauded you as if your childish 'gotcha' had any merit. One of them especially cracked me up, with their smilie worship of you, because it showed how reactionary and childish they can be so often, without actually stepping back for a second and actually, ya know, like, thinking and stuff. I'm just amazed their smilies weren't green! :rofl:

So nice try there pal, but if you can't see the difference between the post of mine you linked and the type of behavior I was talking about, then I feel sorry for you.

[Kingshakabobo]

290. I knew the "geometric logic" would explain all,

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

291. Don't Get Bitter At Me Pal. It Wasn't My Fault You Thought You Were Being

smart in this case but were shown to be a fool. :hi:

[hfojvt]

292. wow, that subthread looks like 'War and Peace'

Somebody shoulda dropped it after the first 10,000 words.

[mzmolly]

329. I've alerted on this post.

:P

[Duncan Grant]

332. LOL!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I'm PMing my "extremist" friends so they can "swarm" to read this...

[Kingshakabobo]

369. Tell them to play nice. We don't want any deletions.

PM only the quasi-extremists.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

347. You Didn't Point Anything Out. In Fact, You Have Yet To Address Any Context At All.

:hi:

[Kingshakabobo]

361. Huh? Please explain. n/t

[A-Schwarzenegger]

365. Ha! It's a post title from the thread you referenced.

I thought everybody would recognize a post title from The Deluded One.

[Kingshakabobo]

367. Ahhhh soooooo.

:)

[Berry Cool]

316. Does saying "OK, fine, I know you're going to answer this--keep kicking the thread!" count?

With the assumption that you're the one who can't let go of the argument, and that by replying to it, you are only calling more attention to the (presumed sound) arguments of your opponent and your (presumed idiotic) replies?

[mmonk]

90. Straw man?

[tblue37]

339. Wicker man

[question everything]

100. And describing our own government as fascist

while happily saying this on a medium that, were we a real fascist state would not exist and they would be in jail for trying to whisper any criticism of our government and elected officials.

[Danger Mouse]

104. i think we have a tendency to be overdramatic at times.

:hi:

[Swamp Rat]

237. They're still gathering names and evidence.

They'll get around to you someday. :)

[mentalsolstice]

126. Yeah, I get that a lot...

and I never get it, 'cause it's different every time. My POV is usually pragmatic...I'm way left, but I acknowledge that my view isn't accepted...so I compromise...and when I do, I'm accused of setting up a strawman.

[Danger Mouse]

131. Compromise...using that word in the presence of some DUer's

will cause their heads to explode.
:P

[mentalsolstice]

174. ...and just set it up as a fair argument? eom

[Lorien]

208. Agreed to all, In addition to "enabling fascism", another one I loathe

is "liberal fascist" as in "so you want to ban disposable plastic shopping bags? You're the kind of LIBERAL FASCIST who gives the rest of us a bad name". I have a strong feeling that many people don't know the meaning of the term "fascist".


Many broad brush statements and flame wars could be avoided simply by the addition of the word "some", as in "some young men are really disrespectful towards women these days" instead of "young men are really disrespectful towards women these days".



Another phrase I've come to loathe; "don't let the door hit you in the ass" whenever someone talks of leaving DU, the party or the country. It's unoriginal, and it's hardly constructive criticism.

[Danger Mouse]

223. all good ones.

:) :hi:

[rucky]

220. Who are these "most people" you're referring to?

I kid.

[mzmolly]

330. Ahhh, quite apropos at the moment.

Thanks.

[laylah]

28. I SO cannot believe

you waded into this...:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

The MOST hateful place in the DU universe? My girl has chosen a brave man :toast:

[Danger Mouse]

33. Bravery goes hand and hand with stupidity.

And are often interchangable.
How are you doing? :hug:

[BlackVelvet04]

31. Ditto

on the truth to power. The thing that annoys me the most is the deliberately misleading topics and the use of OMG!!!!!!!!!!!

[Danger Mouse]

44. i hate 'truth to power' and wish it would die a slow and painful death.

:banghead:

[Fierce]

66. My people! I've finally found my people on DU!

I, too, hate "truth to power." I will never understand why Democrats (although more often it's self-described progressives) think that power is a bad thing. I don't want to speak truth to power, I want to act so I GET the power! Sheesh!

[Danger Mouse]

69. i don't even know what it means. my caveman brain is too small to comprehend.

:shrug:

[BlackVelvet04]

103. I think a lot of people who use it don't know what it means.....

it sounds so fucking pretentious.

[Danger Mouse]

105. and used by pretentious people, no doubt.

:P

[BlackVelvet04]

118. Indubitably so

;-)

[Danger Mouse]

121. Indubitably delicious!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wBZT5Y4DsU

:rofl:

[BlackVelvet04]

123. LOL.....

:hippie:

[CTyankee]

315. It means: standing up to power by telling the truth, even tho it may

be dangerous. "The Emperor has no clothes!" is an example. It implies great bravery, as well as great insight on the part of the person acting on it.

[harun]

389. Exactly right and it is not our problem that some people don't

understand what the heck it means. Google for crying out loud ??? What is wrong with you people, are you 10?

[CTyankee]

396. Yes, you really can parse the sentence and figure it out, especially

if you are an activist, for cryin' out loud! Haven't we heard this statement since the MLK days? I mean, it is one of our founding statements of belief, right?

I hope it hasn't been cheapened. It is a great statement and it has held great power.

[harun]

399. It is actually also a very important statement in my religion

I am a Muslim and one of the popular sayings to reference of Muhammad is that people when confronted with power that is not doing the right thing should speak up about it, and how important it is to do that.

[melody]

32. Don't mind the eyeroll or any of those other things.

Can't stand the ROFL icon or any other icon used numerous times in a row.

Except when I do it, of course.

[Danger Mouse]

34. Oh, of course, any of those thing I posted about no longer apply if I do them

:P
:hi:

[TheBaldyMan]

35. the whole meme meme seems to have taken hold.

thanks for your concern. :P

[Danger Mouse]

40. gah. thanks for your concern.

a smarmy insult if there ever was one.

[razors edge]

37. Drudge take offs.

I can scan his piss poor site for comedic relief and discern the direction of right wing talking points for myself if I am so inclined.

People who follow his links and post the shit here are double dip shits.

[Danger Mouse]

41. Drudge? People read that voluntarily?

:puke:

[razors edge]

51. Know thy enemy.

But don't spread his poison.

[Danger Mouse]

65. Know, yes. Patronize, no.

:hi:

[question everything]

102. That's fine. I am grateful for DUers who summarize

what they have read on Drudge, Faux, freeperland and other sites. What I don't like is when they just provide the link. I will never hit on the link to provide them with more hits so that they can be proud on how popular they are, and charge more for ads.

[razors edge]

390. Exactly.

If the story is that important it will rise in time, without parroting Matt's BS.

I check to see whats up all around the spectrum, but his crappy spin is so transparent.

[cynatnite]

Well, I'm not in the least bit afraid of K&Ring this because of content...

and I'm guilty of this :eyes: and :popcorn:

Please forgive me :)

[Danger Mouse]

43. Love the sinner, hate the sin

:P

Incidentally, there are few phraes used by Christians that I hate more than this one. Just a fancy way of justifying homophobia, imho.

[cynatnite]

38. dupe n/t

[Wiley50]

46. I really have a problem with DUers that use the phrase,"ad nauseum"

Could be they're Madison Ave. types

That's where all of the Nauseum Ads keep comming from

[Danger Mouse]

48. Curses! You're on to me!

:evilfrown:

[Cha]

50. I never get tired of

:popcorn: and drink..so sorry you do :(

You have a winner with # 7, though.

You might wanna check that "Noone" in the 3rd to the last sentence..that drives me wild. :)

[Danger Mouse]

59. changed it...i hate making dumb grammatical errors like that.

i must commit ritual suicide to atone for my mistake.

[Cha]

70. No...just let us eat

our popcorn till we're stuffed..that's all I'm asking :popcorn: :popcorn: :9

[Danger Mouse]

77. Those blank staring eyes, the vacant smile...

urge to kill...rising...rising...

[question everything]

54. Honestly, I don't even know what sentiments

the popcorn is expected to convey. I don't go out much.

And ever since the very first debate, when someone used the term snarky to describe Gravel, it is being used here for everyone and every comment.

[Danger Mouse]

57. Ah, is that one being done to death as well?

Not surprising.
The popcorn is just 'oh wow look at this huge mess i'm going to watch it for my amusement,' which i find...stupid.

[question everything]

106. Oh thanks

I would rather someone say that they find something stupid - and perhaps even explain why - instead of using the emoticon.

And this often is the problem. Instead of telling why they disagree with someone they just post an emoticon - the rolling eyes, the popcorn and perhaps others - and feel that they had their say.

This really is my complaint: the lack of real debate by some DUers, calling them names, instead.

Perhaps this is a generation gap thing..

[Danger Mouse]

110. well...when you have nothing of substance to say...

and the other person is pissing you off, and you can't make your point with an argument of substance...
your best bet is to insult, insult, insult! if you deride them, you can make it look like their argument is beneath you, that you're too SMART to counter them.
it's a bullying tactic, and merely betrays the simplemindedness and immaturity of the poster who does it.
i've tried not to do that sort of thing, but of course i have gone astray on more than one occasion when i lost my cool.

[iamjoy]

58. I Love The Rolls Eyes

for me, it's a substitute for sarcasm because the :sarcasm: is just too boring and obvious. But :eyes: is kind of like "Yeah, right." or "Sheesh!"

what is IBTL?

[Danger Mouse]

60. 'in before the lock' it's a staple of the Lounge.

:banghead:
of course, i've done it too many times to count.

[Oeditpus Rex]

62. K&R

Which seems to mean, "I have nothing to say, but kicking and recommending threads makes me feel like I'm contributing."

[Danger Mouse]

74. heeyyy, you made me think you were k&r'ing me...red herring!

hmm...yeah, that is kind of irritating now that you think of it. i try really hard not to do that...

[tblue37]

343. Sometimes there really isn't much to add, but a thread is important enough that

you feel it should be seen by others rather than allowed to drop out of sight. I am always in a hurry, so I seldom bother to kick or recommend any threads, no matter how much I like them. But sometimes I will K&R without posting, because I really do think a thread should be more widely seen. Since I hate taking the time to recommend, I only do the K&R when I really feel it is important.

I think it is a good thing to do sometimes, even if I have nothing to add to the discussion. It isn't always about what I want to say, but about what someone else has said that I think others need to see said.

IOW, if you ever see a "K&R" from me with no comment on a thread of yours, consider it a very high compliment. I believe I have only used that "K&R" post 3 times--ever.

[SPKrazy]

64. yeah du'ers who say such things should be

rewarded for their efforts :D

:rofl:



oh Elrond you crack me up, great post!

:hi:

[Danger Mouse]

67. you bastard!

didn't old gregg kill you yet, or is he drunk off bailey's creamy again? worthless drunken man-fish.

[SPKrazy]

72. i dunno, old gregg seems to have mellowed out or something

he hangs out in the backyard most of the time getting drunk

:shrug:

:rofl:

[Danger Mouse]

80. maybe he had a nice tall glass of that funky milk.

he better watch himself or he's going to be the guest of honor at my next fish fry.

[NCarolinawoman]

71. I used the word "meme" once and I didn't know how to spell it.

I spelled it "mem". When I wrote it I remember feeling a little self-conscious cause I realized it was kind of a hackneyed term I'd seen at web-sites. But it does come in handy and I'll probably use it again.

The term "speaking truth to power" really does get on my nerves and kind of makes me laugh :evilgrin: in a contrary kind of way.

[Danger Mouse]

86. Whenever people say 'speaking truth to power' I think of Vezzini in 'The Princess Bride'...

always braying 'INCONCEIVABLE!' but that word, i do not think it means what he thinks it means. :P

[Rabrrrrrr]

76. Oh, and your Avatar is just fucking brilliant...

:eyes:


I especially love your cliche jumping on the anti-meme bandwagon meme. How creative. :eyes:

:popcorn:

Yes, all your complaints are duly noted, O Creative User of Oh So Original Avatars.

:eyes:

[Danger Mouse]

78. i'm too dumb to make my own avatar.

:cry:

[Ghost in the Machine]

84. I think the phrase 'jumped the shark' has... well.... jumped the shark

:hi:

[Danger Mouse]

85. oh dear me. people still say that?

how very sad for them.
:P

[Ghost in the Machine]

88. Yeah, something's *always* jumping a shark around here. I sure

am glad I live in the mountains....

[Danger Mouse]

91. Didn't you get the meme? Mountains jumped the shark YEARS ago!

[Ghost in the Machine]

101. D'OH!

[BlackVelvet04]

107. I admit to stupidity

what the hell does "jumped the shark" mean?

[Danger Mouse]

108. It means 'is no longer relevant' 'is old hat'

more or less, it means 'it got old'
It was a popular phrase for awhile a few years ago...until it jumped the shark, natrually.

[BlackVelvet04]

116. Thanks for the info......

I had no idea what it meant.

[Ghost in the Machine]

109. It's in reference to the show 'Happy Days' when The Fonz jumped a shark

in a water skiing competition while visiting California...

on edit: Some also say that that was the moment the show died, or faded into irrelevancy..

[Danger Mouse]

112. ah, i see. interesting.

thanks for the info. :hi:

[Ghost in the Machine]

128. quite welcome. mind you though, that's just *my* interpretation of the phrase.

:hi:

[tblue37]

344. It's the correct definition, not just your idosyncratic interpretation. (eom)

[BlackVelvet04]

117. So it means irrelevant?

I'm so confused. I don't remember Fonz jumping a shark....guess I missed that episode.

[Ghost in the Machine]

125. oh man... the Fonz, water skiing.. IN HIS LEATHER JACKET...

and his hair didn't get wet...

[NoPasaran]

263. Here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpraJYnbVtE

[eggman67]

268. Here it is

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XlUAJjRwPrc

[rucky]

278. I've coined an addendum to "Jumping the Shark"...

Res-cute (verb): An attempt to extend the life of a failing show by:

a) Adding a kid. (Lucy, My Three Sons, Brady Bunch, Family Ties, Cosby...)

b) Adding Ted McGinley or Heather Locklear (Happy Days, Love Boat, Married w/ Children... Melrose Place, Spin City)

Maybe McCain should hire McGinley to manage a new staff of cute kids.

[eggman67]

282. There's a whole site dedicated to that

http://www.jumptheshark.com

McGinley has his own section. Fun site.

[rucky]

285. no shit?

i guess the trend is obvious.

[eggman67]

287. Oh, hell yeah

McGinley is the kiss of death, it's quite a list.

From the site:

"Ted is the patron saint of shark jumping. Chances are that if Ted is anywhere near your cast, consider the show on the downward spiral."

[Canuckistanian]

113. Thank God, I'm not the only one

I HATE "speak truth to power". I don't know why exactly. It just sounds so.... wishy washy.

And "IBTL" is a direct ripoff from FR's "IBTZ" (in before the zot).

[Danger Mouse]

115. ..zot? ZOT??

yeargh.

i'm glad to see that there are many DUer's who hate that particular figure of speech! :hi:

[Oeditpus Rex]

119. I'm sorry they got it first

"Zot" was a great bit of onomatapoeia used by Johnny Hart in "The Wizard of Id" and "B.C." and a cool sound effect when the kid zapped the creepy green things in a video game I used to play.

[Danger Mouse]

129. I think of the 'Tower of Zot' in Final Fantasy IV...what a dork I am...

:P
dang freepers, they ruin everything. Even Christmas. ESPECIALLY Chrismtmas.

[jakefrep]

120. CALL CONGRESS RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!!11!!1!!

The overuse of these phrases is outrageous.

[Danger Mouse]

122. Ah, geez! Yeah, I'm going, I'm going!

Oh, wait, nevermind. :P
As I said in an earlier post, we can get a tad overdramatic at times. Just a tad.

[EstimatedProphet]

124. I hate "What phrases do you hate?"

:P

[Danger Mouse]

133. I hate YOU.

:P

[EstimatedProphet]

141. Well, I hate you back!

You're a good German!
So there!

:rofl:

[Danger Mouse]

143. Oh, man, oh man. You guys keep gettings ones that I missed.

Go ahead, now call me a 'sheeple' to REALLY drive home your point! :rofl:

[EstimatedProphet]

145. Yeah, actually that's another bad one

[Danger Mouse]

154. 'Good German' annoys me far more.

Any phrase that implies a DUer is complicit or being duped. Seems to be popular among the :tinfoilhat: crowd.

[swag]

127. "ad nauseum" and "in memorium".

It's "ad nauseam" and "in memoriam."

Accusative case.

If you don't know a language, don't use it. Or consult a reference work.

[Danger Mouse]

132. Oops.

:cry:

[swag]

134. Don't cry.

I corrected two major blogs on these very points just this week.

Our nation still loves you.

[Danger Mouse]

135. Our nation?

Oh, that makes me feel so special. *glow*

[swag]

138. Your special *glow* pulls the moisture to my loins.

[entanglement]

136. Why do you hate America?

:rofl:

[Danger Mouse]

139. I not only hate America...

I hate baseball, apple pie, and our national anthem.
I also check the Koran out from a library once.
:scared:

[Blue_In_AK]

137. I don't even know what IBTL means. n/t

[Danger Mouse]

140. 'in before the lock'...

typically posted in the Lounge, in a sex thread or a flamebait thread...dumb and useless, so of course i do it all the time.

[slampoet]

163. I agree with that one. It almost implies they post and then tattle to admin to get the last word.

[Danger Mouse]

166. Uh...I wouldn't know anything about that.

:hide:

[CTyankee]

317. Oh, that's nothing. I must admit I blithely thought "nopity" would be

pronounced "nahpity" with the emphasis on the "nah." I wondered what the hell it meant until um, later when, as the saying goes, "dawn breaks over marblehead."

[Blue_In_AK]

322. You bring up a good point.

Is that nopity as in "no pity" or nopity as in "nopity, nope, nope -- no way"?

[CTyankee]

331. I guess I thought it was a strange variation of "nope" but I have been

known to have strange ideas about words. In a town near me there was a diner with a big sign "Dinaurant." I would pass by that diner and say to myself "What kind of a name is that?" One fine day it did dawn on me that it was meant to be a combined diner and restaurant. It only took a few years for me to figure it out...

[Blue_In_AK]

333. I see where you're coming from with that one, too

because I would assume it had something to do with dinosaurs and could imagine some giant Barney or something on their sign. :shrug:

[Kurovski]

142. Everything I say.

I annoy the shit out of myself.

[Danger Mouse]

152. God, I hate you already.

:grr:

[Kurovski]

164. Your hate gives me strength for another day of self-loathing.

C'mon baby, light my fire. :grr:

[Danger Mouse]

165. Yess....let your anger grow...

[Kurovski]

171. Point me to the dark side, RIGHT FUCKING NOW.

The world of sunshine and puppies, gingham and cupcakes has grown too great a burden for my weary soul.

[Danger Mouse]

176. Just follow this guy.

[Kurovski]

181. Okie-dokie!

I've just got to feed the goldfish, and I'm on my way.

[RedCappedBandit]

161. Well then

at least you know you're never full of shit!

[Kurovski]

167. It's true.

Self-contempt: it's the new high colonic.

It's why I suspect Dick Cheney to be a secret DUer.

[AZBlue]

144. Using "1" instead of "!" or "hugh" instead of "huge"

I know it's a take-off on the board-that-shall-not-be-named, but we really don't have to stoop to their level, do we? (on edit: the only time this really makes sense is if it's a thread pointing out the stupid things people do on that other board)

And, I loved your #3 - if you figure out a way to murder a smilie, I'll figure out a way to hold it down for you!

[Danger Mouse]

146. I'll remember that. You can be my accomplice in smilie homicide.

Which isn't against the law...YET. :evilgrin:
Stoop to their level? Sadly, we often do.

[blondeatlast]

254. Actually, you CAN name that board. You can't name the other one

which no longer exists. :evilgrin:

[More Than A Feeling]

147. I think that what I hate most (besides excessively negative people;-))

is the NEVERENDING LOYALTY OATHS! They make me want to switch my registration to Republican, just so I can have the pleasure of pissing off the people who take it upon themselves to endlessly monitor every poster for any hint of dissenting feeling towards any potential nominee (even though we all know they mean Hillary). Kucinich voters never ask for loyalty oaths.

[Danger Mouse]

149. What, are you kidding me?

You must swear fealty to Obama/Edwards/Cabbage/Clinton/Monkfish/Turnip for ALL ETERNITY.
Failure to do so will result in you being blasted from the timestream.

...it's not just for political cantidates.
take cindy sheehan, for example.

[More Than A Feeling]

151. Oh, I hate threads about Cindy Sheehan too.

Probably for that very reason (although I honestly haven't given my dislike that much thought). I stay far away from those.

[Danger Mouse]

153. It's like being caught between an angry rock

and an angrier hard place.

[RedCappedBandit]

148. The term "Strawman"

Just another worthless, one worded response that contributes nothing to the discussion.

[Danger Mouse]

150. One word responses:

Doing the arguing so YOU don't have to!
:hi:

[fizzgig]

155. your concern is noted

:popcorn:

:P

i agree with you on a lot of these points, i just wanted to be a brat ;)

[Danger Mouse]

156. nice grammatical error in there, too.

you ARE a brat. :spank:

[fizzgig]

159. d'oh!

:P

[Marr]

157. "I hope (fill in the blank) stays off of small planes."

[Danger Mouse]

162. WELLSTONED!!!!

Everything is a conspiracy. Didn't you KNOW that?
Watch this, to learn the truth.
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/flash-tub/letter-from-internet-2.php
this may shock you...if you're a sheeple.
:P

[Kingshakabobo]

217. That one drives me up a frickin wall! n/t

[blondeatlast]

255. Oh, indeed. nt

[slampoet]

160. "Stealing is always wrong"

(Gotta luv that ill logic. Even the bible sanctions some stealing. The fact is there are a LOT of DU people who fear loosing their stuff more than they fear loosing their freedom. They don't care if the cops accidentally shoot someone as long as they get to watch it on cable. This is a fear with me also. It is because deep down we all know that 99% of us have put more effort into shopping than fixing the problems of the world, and if a person stole everything they had, there would be no karma points in the world because they were out buying instead of fixing. Don't be so hard on yourselves. I am the same way. I've twice lost everything and I'm still scarred by it. But don't be so hard on the "thieves". The person who got free gas was ripped a bigger hole that Ken Lay. Stop attacking working people who are just trying to get ahead. It makes you look closer to the Freep borderline than you think you are. )


"It's for the children" (Funny how everyone was saying screw the children when i was asking why i had to work for a lower minimum wage than people over 18 for the entire 1980's, or why my programs were being cut. But I was a minority back then because i was part of the baby bust and therefore politically ignorable by the boomers and the older generations. Now that children are more of a percent of the population, people hold up their kids like little human shields to defend any self serving BS.)


"You can just survive off beans and rice." (This identifies the true trustifarian. The last ass who said this then admitted that he spent the money he saved on BEER. Anyone who has Really had to take ramen or rice or mac and cheese for a week would never say this to a poor person. Instead they would cook for them and feed them, just like Christ would have.)


"That's an urban myth." (When you are describing something that happened to yourself, not a friend or a cousin's friend but something you saw and lived.)


"It's only a few bad apples..." (There have been so many cases where entire precincts had to be cleaned out and started over. Why is this myth still around? Because everyone has a relative who is a cop or thinks they know someone who is a cop. Funny thing is, when I ask cops if they have any friends who aren't cops? 80% of them tell me they don't.)

"Greatest Generation" (The plurality of current 70-90 year olds are called this. When I was young I met the parents of the so called greatest folk. Back when the Greatest Generation was 40-60 years old i heard stories from the parents they left in retirement homes about what selfish jerks, screwing up the world, all the GG's were and how they didn't know how to have a good time and were wasting their lives. The GG's parents are about 90-120 years old now and I recall all the great stories of rum-running, rolling down stockings, working the railroad, building cars, digging the panama canal, and all sorts of other great American things. GG is just a way to sell books that the GG's fell for like EVERY other Madison Avenue pitch. Just like they fell for Fox NewZ.)

[Danger Mouse]

169. There are no absolutes in the world.

Or at least, very few.

[DS1]

168. Thanks for playing

[Danger Mouse]

170. I friggin HATE that one.

:)

[DS1]

184. Obnoxious, isn't it?

[Starbucks Anarchist]

172. Thanks for your concern.

Your meme is tiresome.

:eyes: :popcorn:
.
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.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.:P

[Danger Mouse]

173. Oh, you're such a good german.

Stop drinking the kool aid, and break apart from the other sheeple.
Thanks for playing, btw.
:P

[Starbucks Anarchist]

175. You can't handle the truth...

To power. :P

[Danger Mouse]

177. Watch out for small planes, btw.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

178. Small planes cause global warming.

Why do you hate the environment?

:popcorn:

[Danger Mouse]

179. IBTL!

There. I said it. I ruined my own damn thread. Happy now? :P

[Starbucks Anarchist]

180. I reject your strawman.

:eyes: :P

[Bluebear]

183. Post: Family of 9 dies in SUV crash. "Rove got his diversion!" "SUV owners suck!"

And similar glad tidings in response to some tragedy.

[Danger Mouse]

196. The best, and the most tasteful isssss....

'they had it coming' 'they deserved it'...etc.

[devilgrrl]

185. Not to harsh your mellow but I've seen some of those used in a appropriate manner.

There are/have been "Concern Trolls"

"meme" is a another way of saying "talking point"

I've had the ":eyes:" used on me - in many instances... and for good reason. :blush: Plus, I enjoy employing it myself... :blush::blush:

:shrug:

[Danger Mouse]

191. I know there are/have been concern trolls.

My annoyance is with those who drag it out everytime someone says something that they don't want to hear.

'Meme' is perfectly acceptable on its own. Just overused. And used improperly.

:eyes: is just fine too...but not when it is used in lieu of rational discourse...in other words, being a dick for the sake of being a dick.

just my .02

[devilgrrl]

206. Fine!

:silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly:
:silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly:
:silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly:
:silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly:
:silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly:
:silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly::silly:*


*That's my favorite smilie. :7

[tblue37]

370. "Meme" has an actual meaning, and it isn't just another term

for talking point.

Richard Dawkins coined the term "meme" in The Selfish Gene to describe ideas that are self-replicating, the way genes are—units of culture, spread by imitation. Just as genes do, memes compete for survival according to the mechanism of natural selection. The most successful memes are the ones that get more copies of themselves "into the next generation" of ideas.

The point of using "meme" in political discourse is to suggest that certain ideas are of a sort that might, once they are injected into the idea stream, catch hold and successfully compete against memes that we need to get rid of. For example, the meme that patriotism is the same as supporting whoever happens to have control of the government needs to be countered, but simply saying "Patriotism is not the same as supporting whoever happens to be in control of the government" would never make it as a meme. For this reason, I support using "Good German" against people who support the government no matter what, because that's what they think patriotism is. Successful memes are the sort that are easily accepted, easy to remember, clear in their meaning, etc. Soundbites for the deepest level of the mind. (Of course, using “Good German” against someone just because they disagree with you is ridiculous.)

A talking point can become a meme, if it is successful enough to become widely received wisdom. George Lakoff’s writings about how Democrats need to use framing more successfully is also about turning mere talking points into successful memes.

I would like to recommend a book entitled The Meme Machine, by Susan Blackmore (Dawkins wrote the foreword for it). She takes Dawkins’ idea and explores it in much more detail.

[Toasterlad]

186. I Love the Popcorn Smilie.

Sorry. I don't plan to stop using it. OR the eye roll smilie. I find them endlessly entertaining.

:hide:

But maybe you guys can clear up something for a relative newbie: what does the acronym MIHOP mean? I've seen it a bunch of times, but I can't decipher it. Help a brother out.

[Danger Mouse]

194. I knew, but I forgot.

Sorry. :P
I'm a baaad DU'er.

[LeftishBrit]

231. It means...

"Made it Happen on Purpose" (i.e. 9-11 was an inside job).

One that irritates me is "OCT-er" (Official Conspiracy Theory supporter) for those who don't believe MIHOP.

[Toasterlad]

302. Of Course!

Thank you. I can now read posts with increased confidence. :toast:

[mzmolly]

187. Some of mine = "status quo" "DLC apologist"

There are more, they'll come to me later.

[Danger Mouse]

192. DLC apologist, yes, another favorite of mine.

but why are you saying this? you must be on the DLC payroll!

[piedmont]

188. "I could care less"

I reeeally hate that one.

[Danger Mouse]

193. Context? Is it someone pretending not to care...

in order to be dismissive and callous towards someone else?

[Posteritatis]

211. Particularly since it implies the poster does, in fact, care... (nt)

[rucky]

222. Maybe it's because we care more?

:shrug:

[sandnsea]

189. oy

:eyes:


:rofl:


:hi:

[Danger Mouse]

195. ooh, this is gonna be good...

:popcorn:

[VLC]

197. Yep, I'm new here and #7 has already happened to me twice.

Both times completely unwarranted and nasty.

[Danger Mouse]

199. Have you been to the Lounge?

It's a lot friendlier there, if you got burned badly here. :hi:
I've been stuck with the 'concern troll' label several times, and i hardly ever even post in GD :P

[Bluebear]

204. 'It's a lot friendlier there'

Well I don't know about friendlier. It certainly is a different type of discussion.

[Danger Mouse]

209. Well...i find it friendlier. Others may not.

:hi:

[VLC]

205. ... / the rolling on the floor laughing smiley

... - don't know what that means, but seems nasty in some instances.

The rolling on the floor smiley is fine when something is actually funny, but I hate seeing it in an argument when it is used to basically say "You're so stupid it's funny."

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

207. Sometimes it's used when something is really funny. Like this.

Daily Kos: Death Cat Begins Gonzales Watch

MKJ

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1457821

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

On edit, had to replace the example of Vitter with the cat.

:-)

[Bryn]

212. How about this..

"Ask me anything"

"Help me to reach goal of ######## posts"

Look at my post count. Too low for time I've been here. SO HELP ME REACH 1,000 POSTS! :P

[Danger Mouse]

213. Ah, guilty as charged.

:blush: i do that all the time.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

215. "He's TOAST."

Never happened yet- don't believe it ever will. To ANY of 'em.

[Danger Mouse]

219. A whole lot of wishful thinking there, eh?

:)

[WildEyedLiberal]

216. "______ speaks for me!!"

What kind of robot lets other people speak for them? That just reeks of mindless idol worship. There are some politicians I really, really like, but even them I disagree with occasionally. Think and speak for YOURSELVES, people.

Also, anyone and everyone who doesn't toe the DU/"progressive" line being "DLC." Conyers and Pelosi are "DLC" or "DLC sympathizers" or part of the "DLC mindset" according to these idiots, half of whom I highly doubt even know what the DLC is.

I agree with your list, too, especially "speak truth to power" and "hold their feet to the fire." Both are just cheap and easy ways to feel like a daring revolutionary activist without actually doing anything.

[Danger Mouse]

221. We're pumping our fists in the air in front of our computer screen!!

Take that, establishment! :rofl:

[tblue37]

372. "____ for president!"

Every time ANYONE says one thing certain people agree with, those people begin chanting "____ for president!" They do it for Oprah, Murtha, Ron Paul, and just about anyone else who says ONE thing they agree with. They don't even consdier whether the person they are touting for president would make a good president or even supports any of the many policy positions the poster supposedly supports. The "Ron Paul for president"-ers especially piss me off, since he is very strongly in support of many, many, many positions that would horrify them if they ever bothered to look at the people they are suawking "___ for president!" about.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. Pat Buchanan has always been against the Iraq invasion and occupation and holds Little Boots in complete contempt, calling him radical and saying he is not a conservative at all. Buchanan's American Conservative Magazine even did a cover story bout how Bush was no conservative. But that doesn't mean we should want Pat Buchanan for president, now, does it?

[rucky]

224. DING! DING! DING! WE HAVE A WINNER!

and always seems to be in CAPS

[Danger Mouse]

227. help, I CNA'tT get MY CAPLOCKS key TO WORK PROEPerly...

:P
:hi:

[Balbus]

228. The jerk-offs that post that phrase are the biggest idiots on the board.

[Vilis Veritas]

271. Darn. I did that twice in the last week...

But my prize to the winner was cute!

[Reterr]

225. "Since I'm a member of the reality based community"

Made sense in the context it was first used in (following whatsisname's comment about super-powers creating their own reality). But now it is over-used by every random dude on the internet, who thinks his opinion is more valid than that of anyone who disagrees with him.

[Danger Mouse]

226. That's the internet for you.

I am the supreme authority on Issue X. no one knows more than me about Issue X. I can never be wrong about Issue X. If someone is foolish enough to disagree with me on Issue X, they are either stupid, dumb, and idiot, or ignorant.

[cynatnite]

229. "nistas" - I have come to despise that one...

Clintonistas, Hillarynistas, Cindynistas, Chaveznistas....

It doesn't matter who it's used with. I see it and I hate it. :puke:

There ought to be a law against that one. BLECH!

I don't get why it's used as much as it is.

[Danger Mouse]

241. It's caused by a rare condition called 'Assbrain's Syndrome'

in which a person's brains are located squarely in their ass.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

230. The term "DUers."

[Danger Mouse]

242. may i humbly ask why?

:hi:

[LeftishBrit]

232. The word "Nazi" used for individuals who are simply seen as bossy or interfering

E.g. 'health nazis'; 'smoking nazis'; 'recycling nazis'; etc. I think the term should be reserved for oppressive genocidal dictatorships and their supporters.

[Danger Mouse]

243. why are you being a 'nazi nazi'?

:P
i agree with you, though. using the word in such a way diminishes its importance.

[Chulanowa]

233. X is playing chess and Y is playing checkers

So, who's playing go?

[Danger Mouse]

244. i don't follow.

please explain?

[Chulanowa]

328. Oh, it's just a phrase I've seen everywhere.

"Obama is playing checkers, but Clinton is playing chess" - "Democrats play checkers, but Republicans play chess"

The phrase just annoys me, both by the implication that intelligent people are stupid, and that chess is somehow terribly complicated.

If you're wondering what go is... here ya go :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_%28board_game%29

[Danger Mouse]

355. chess is a very simple game to learn.

not terribly complex. i've not seen that one before, but i agree with you that it is inane. :)

[DemBones DemBones]

402. Yes, but not simple to play well. That's the meaning.

Unfortunately, this first started out when Kerry supporters assured us Kerry was playing chess, that any moment he would make some grand move against the Swiftboaters.

He got the part about how to resign right at least.

[Truth2Tell]

234. Owned. n/t

[Danger Mouse]

246. aw, i love that one, though.

:cry:

[Truth2Tell]

319. Well, I love the popcorn, so we're even.

:) :popcorn: :)

[Danger Mouse]

354. pwn3d. even worse

:)

[tblue37]

373. I actually like "I just threw up in my mouth a little bit." Sorry--that

one makes me laugh. It is so precisely appropriate in so many contexts.

[Swamp Rat]

238. I like words.

[Danger Mouse]

247. that's one of my personal favorites.

probably the only time you'lll see Reagan at the top of any sort of evolution chart. :hi:

[HughBeaumont]

239. Agreed, and also -

The "inevitability" trollsters. Uh, yeah, because we did away with these little things called "primaries"?

[NobleCynic]

240. Could we get rid of "moran" at the same time?

I wince every time I see it. "Leet speak" in general needs to be done away with.

[Danger Mouse]

249. | w|ll h4x0r j00

:P
moran has been beaten to death, dragged out of the grown, and beaten even further. it should be given a decent burial and retired.

[NuttyFluffers]

245. Wow, just wow. Get help, and soon!

.

:argh:

:puke:

:mad:

:eyes:

exhaustive list of grievances, delivered in pedantic manner, will follow -- possibly in a separate topic -- if there are attempts to reply.

any further debate will be met with pithy one-liners.

superiority will be maintained by cynical coterie through the use of running dialogue of in-jokes asides that are blatantly obvious but treated as truly clever veiled criticisms.

:sarcasm:

[Danger Mouse]

251. not cynical coterie! anything but that!

:scared:
:hi:

[NuttyFluffers]

253. pithy one-liner to you!

now i give you prissy stuck-up lips
:*

[cboy4]

256. Yea, there is one that irritates me:

:P

That's the smug/smart ass smiley, and if this thread is any indication, you enjoy using it.

Glad to help point out that even you can be annoying Elrond!

[Danger Mouse]

259. Oh, I know I can be (am) annoying.

And I've openly admitted to do half of those things anyway. Sometimes I say or do things that seconds later I wince and say 'why oh why did i say/do that'.
None of us are perfect, some of us are just less perfect than others. ;)

[AwakeAtLast]

257. Personally, I see this too much

...

That's all you got?


...


I don't get it. :eyes:



The eyeroll was just for you! :silly:

I happen to be fond of crazy eyes - :crazy:

[tammywammy]

258. I dislike a few

Speaking truth to power - what?
Thanks for your concern - it's just snarky

What I really hate is if you say something like "I don't agree with Cindy's actions here" someone invariably says so you love this war or you must love Bush

[Kingshakabobo]

260. Thanks for your concern is way overused.

It was a nice idea for true "concern trolls."........12 post wonders inquiring about <insert fox news talking point>...but now it's just used for disagreement.

[tammywammy]

265. It seems like in the last few days the number of times I've seen

"thanks for your concern" has multiplied by 100x.

[treestar]

261. I like DUers

And none of those things really bother me.

Thanks for you concern does not seem to me to be used for the purpose you suggest. It's usually when the post responded to has attitudes that make it very suspect that the poster is really a right wing spy. If you spend any time with wingnuts you can pick up their language issues and themes, and since they walk in lockstep, they are much more affected by it.

Also such posts often seek to divide and conquer.

I don't agree with your number 8 at all. There is a lot of intelligent discourse.

There is also a lot of irony and joking, maybe you're taking that literally.

[Octafish]

262. ''The freepers will laugh at us.''

Who cares if the ignorant find the truth funny?

[Arugula Latte]

264. I just got a flashback to the movie "Carrie"

Remember her freaky fundy mother? "They'll laugh at you!"

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

266. Sick and tired of phrases that DUers say ad nauseum? Not even a qualifier as to phrases "some" DUers

say ad nauseum? From your litany, it seems that you are just sick and tired of DU.

[Danger Mouse]

296. Not in the least, otherwise I wouldn't stay!

:hi:
I didn't put a qualifier in, true, but these aren't things every du'er does, obviously, and even then, they're only truly annoying when done in excess.

[Deja Q]

267. peak oil

Where's that book on amazon.com that refutes the concept, with aplomb...

[CitizenLeft]

269. my pet peeve

...people who grossly exaggerate your stance to mock you instead of using common sense or logic to counter your point.... or better yet, instead of accepting your fucking opinion because you have a right to it. As in, if you forgive the Dems for being cautious about impeachment, you're a Bush apologist and should go post in freeperland. Or, if you think Vick should pay for his brutal abuse of animals, you're suddenly immune to all human suffering and could watch children die dry-eyed, but dammit, those dogs must be saved. Or simply daring to say that Cindy Sheehan is not a politician - and that's both good and bad - suddenly means you don't care her son died and that she shouldn't run against Pelosi because she's "not rich." That was the winner of the silliest and most disengenuious "argument" I've seen on this board in the 3 years I've been posting here. Gimme a fucking break. There ARE such things as gray areas - yes, Virginia, you can actually think two things at once! - and people who refuse to accept that simple concept - or the idea that you simply have a right to your opinion without being ridiculed - just piss me off with their childishness.

[woo me with science]

272. Navel-gazing meta threads, like this one.

DU absolutely LOVES threads about itself. We just LOVES to look in the mirror and masturbate over all of our wonderful quirks.

Remember the one a couple months ago that was complete self-reference? Something like:

Inane conclusion based on questionable fact, but I'm right.
Incensed response, followed by WTF smiley.
Links to conspiracy site, with admonition vaguely referencing Freeperville.

That one was so much fun!

[mzmolly]

275. I also love when people who have the ability to hide a thread, come in and

rant waving their superiority complex around. So much fun. ;)

[woo me with science]

309. Now why on earth

would I want to hide a fun thread like this? :)

[Danger Mouse]

297. If you don't like threads like these...

then you don't have to participate. :hi:

[woo me with science]

308. Who said I didn't like them?

Who ever said masturbation wasn't fun?
:rofl:

[Danger Mouse]

353. i once read a book called '101 lies men tell women'

one of them was 'i don't masturbate'
:P

[woo me with science]

357. Bwah!

:rofl:

[Danger Mouse]

360. i should dig it up and post about it sometime...

it's got some real gems :P

[Hosnon]

310. New smilie needed:

"Quirks" dripping with whiteness...

[woo me with science]

312. ROFL!

:rofl:

[eggman67]

273. Using the argument "but Bush did it"

to justify bad behavior from someone on the left.

It would seem to me that that would be the best argument against the behavior.

[Danger Mouse]

299. It's always sad when we stoop to their level...

i would think that we'd go out of our way to avoid it at all costs.

[lonestarnot]

274. Well certainly not with anyone that posts the word IMPEACH!

[Marr]

276. Hmm. Almost makes me think you could just write some code and let it post everything automatically.

It needs a little routine, like:

1. OMG CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS SHIT?! "<insert random headline>!!!"

2. Post Response: "I hope <name from article> stays off of small planes."

3. Post Reponse: Tinfoil Hat Accusation #429"

4. Sub-Thread Reponse: "Enjoy you're stay."

5. Sub-Thread Response: DLC Accusation #982

6. Post Response: "<name from article> is a national treasure."

[VLC]

293. perfect - complete with misspelled "your"

[Danger Mouse]

300. We could make our own thread generator...

hmmm
it'd probably end up being too realisitc.

[RandomKoolzip]

277. "Loyalty oath," "Blind loyalty..."

An oath requires a signature and implies a contract. No one is required to "sign" anything here. People who complain about being "forced" to post "loyalty oaths" are exaggerating and acting melodramtic.

Also, "BLIND loyalty" is another phrase I despise. The whole purpose of DU is to spread information amongst Democrats. No poster here is "blind," (I don't mean literally blind) meaning, they support a candidate or a party or an ideology 100% without caveats. That's just impossible, but that's what the phrase implies. It make me wanna fuckin' puke when I see it.

Also, vegans/vegetarians calling meat-eaters "animal-haters." So, are us omnivores safe in assuming that vegatarians hate plants? Man, you fuckers DESPISE vegetables so much you cut 'em up and EAT 'em! Gross!

"Strawman." Learn the meaning before you use it, please.

"Ad hominem." See "Strawman."

[tammywammy]

281. "Man, you fuckers DESPISE vegetables so much you cut 'em up and EAT 'em! Gross!"

:)

I also hate the "animal hater" term.

[RandomKoolzip]

283. Me too - it implies that I have true malice in my heart towards chickens.

By this line of logic, I guess that vegetraians fly into murderous rages at the sight of a carrot, right?

[Danger Mouse]

305. Yes. I do. Last night I ripped into a carrot's throat with my teeth...

and drank the carroty blood that issued forth from the gaping wound.

[tammywammy]

337. LOL

"and drank the carroty blood that issued forth from the gaping wound."

[Danger Mouse]

298. I'm a vegetarian, but i see nothing wrong with eating meat...

considering i ate meat most of my life and still enjoy the taste.
I think the conditions in which many meat animals are raised is deplorable...

[tammywammy]

301. I agree that the

conditions that many meat animals are raised in are horrible. That's one reason I pay a little extra for free range chicken, etc. But I also have meals with no meat. :shrug: It's just the name calling that sucks.

[Danger Mouse]

304. It does. And claiming the moral high ground because one doesn't eat meat...

is incredibly lame.
Meat isn't murder, in my book, I just choose not to eat it.

[unsavedtrash]

280. "off the table." n/t

[yardwork]

286. Some named Elrond Hubbard is telling me to think for myself and avoid group-think?

Thanks for your concern. :eyes:

[Danger Mouse]

295. I'm not a Scientologist, if that's what you're implying...

but if i were, it'd make the OP pretty ironic, wouldn't it? :)

[yardwork]

388. Yeah! I'm glad that you got that I was being humorous, all in good fun.

After I posted I worried that I hadn't used enough icons! lol!

[On the Road]

288. Thread Title "So-and-So Slams So So-and-So"

Nothing wrong with it, exactly -- I just have enough of reading predictable opinions and want to learn about more investigative details or hear about concrete action.

However, the most wearisome posts by far are: "But the earth is only 6,000 years old!" It was amusing the first hundred times.

[Blue_Roses]

294. "I'm outta here..."

"Bye DU," and all the other "I'm leaving" threads. Just go ...

Great thread:)

[Danger Mouse]

303. There was a real humdinger in the Lounge last night...

:nuke:

[Hosnon]

311. Pretty much any thread that is overflowing with self-righteousness.

We may be enlightened liberals, progressives, etc. but we don't know everything and we aren't always right.

Edit: Spelling

[Auntie Bush]

313. I've got a peeve!

I can't stand posts that correct other peoples behavior or posts...like the behavior police, the spelling police, the grammar police or the humor police. Or people in general, who feel they are smarter than others thus putting others down.

Why can't everyone do what they want the way they want? I'll bet there are lots of people around here who read DU but are afraid to post for fear of offending some self appointed policemen. A little harsh...but true!

[Throd]

314. KKKing George III Bu$Hitler Rethugobot...

Ok, I get it. You hate Republicans. Me too. But if you have a serious point to make, please don't make me have to wade through how cleverly you can mangle their names in a derisive manner.

Reminds me of all the people who would use a hammer and sickle to spell "Clinton".

[tammywammy]

321. Along those same lines: Fitzmas

[Cameron27]

323. That cracks me up too,

I never understood the point of using this *, instead of his name either.

[Danger Mouse]

348. lol...

kkking george iii bu$hitler rethugobot
:rofl:

[BlackVelvet04]

318. And another one....

"Nothing to see here, move along." I hate it when somebody posts that.....it reminds me of the cons on another message board.

[PatSeg]

324. Thanks for the Saturday morning laugh

This thread was hysterical!!!

I personally dislike acronyms. It comes across as both lazy and exclusive. If one has something to say, they should say it in their "own" words and in a way that doesn't make others feel like outsiders. I hate "club mentality". It reminds me of republicans.

Elrond, you are really funny! Thanks again.

[Danger Mouse]

350. Glad you enjoyed it!

The whole point of this thread is just for people to gripe about annoying behavior, not to tell anyone how to think or act.
It's all done with a sense of humor, I'm glad you were able to appreciate that. :hi:

[PatSeg]

362. Without your unique humor

it could have just turned into a major bitch-fest. We all need to lighten up a little now and then, and laugh at ourselves.

[Danger Mouse]

364. I've tried to keep it positive.

I was sure that the thread would be akin to throwing a rock at a hornet's nest, but it hasn't gone to that level. I was pleasantly surprised.
I think it's important to laugh at ourselves as well. We're silly people.

[PatSeg]

379. And silly can be a good thing,

especially when issues today are so heavy and overwhelming. The success of this thread indicates people were ready for a break. Personally I don't trust anyone who doesn't have a sense of humor.

[Danger Mouse]

381. It makes me happy if it helped people cool down a bit.

I was just starting it to be inane, really. :hi:

[tblue37]

375. Especially when so many of the acronyms are so obscure. n/t

[PatSeg]

377. We could make up own acronyms

that don't mean anything and see how long it takes for someone to ask what it means, instead of pretending that they know!!!

[Danger Mouse]

378. LOL! Yeah, that's a great idea!

gtbu!

[PatSeg]

383. Okay

I just REALLY "laughed out loud"!!!!

[bryant69]

325. "Am I the only one"

I hate that one.

No you are never the only one to notice/feel/believe something.

Bryant

[Danger Mouse]

351. Hey bryant, ltns...

we've had dealings before on the R/T forum, but you might not remember it, it's been a long time since i've darkened that forum.

[1932]

326. "the worm has turned"

[Fading Captain]

327. #8 - reactionaries

There are people on this board who love to accuse the right of facism, but man, question their nearly religious grip on their agenda, and look out ... (whether it's kucinich, Obama, Hillary, Sheehan, Nader, Anti-Nader, or whatever cause it is which they support without question)
It's a pile on.
People insinuate you are a Freeper. Or a Troll. Or stupid white male. Or a radical feminist dyke. Or a whatever.

I used to read DU an awful lot to keep in touch with issues on the American left.

But, as I've watched more and more Democratic party candidates pay lip service to my values, and then run to the right ... and knowing full well that DU has said that you can not support a candidate running against Democrats (even if their views are more inline with what many of us view as Democratic Values), well, it's know wonder free speech and great debates are going extinct on the board.

DU would rather be a big player in a corporate Democratic Party then help promote Democratic Party values.

So, when Hillary Republic Clinton supports the Iraq war, supports legislation that gives more power to health care corporations, when she supports trade legislation that wounds the American labour movement ....
And then I see Ralph Nader supporting all the things I believe in ...

Well, DU will not be a good place to talk about the issues that Democrats believe in.

[ComerPerro]

338. "Speaking Truth to Power" usually means:

sticking it to a low ranking, minimum wage memeber of an organization. This could be a cashier at WalMart, or an intern at a Congressman's office.

Most of the time it involves shouting at and insulting someone who generally can't insult you back.

[Bluerthanblue]

359. geez, is that

how you read it? I see it more as the little guy not letting the huge monster intimidate them.?

Like the Tienanmen Square guy and the tanks-
I never considered your perspective-


peace,
blu

[ComerPerro]

385. most DU stories about "speaking truth to power" involve what I described

[IChing]

340. I am going to start a new OP using every single phrase or smilie to piss the world off.

that was used in this thread.

[IChing]

349. I think it would very funny if it was done right

[Danger Mouse]

352. if you do, please send me the link.

i would enjoy it :hi:

[Kingshakabobo]

363. Such a dastardly plan would never succeed! Would it?

[IChing]

371. We have tons of better writers on DU than me

that could easily pull this off.

My messages are usually short and not drawn out beyond a paragraph.

[tblue37]

341. I really hate excited posts that tell us to turn on the TV or the radio

RIGHT NOW!!!!! without telling us what is going on. I also hate when whole threads go on and on with nothing but brief, "OMG!" or "That's so cool!" or "I can't believe he just said that!" kinds of comments, all the while ignorong pleas from cube rats or others who can't get to a TV or radio to at least tell them what the hell the thread is even about, or what is going on, if they already know the topic of the thread.

Since I am severely hearing-impaired, I don't listen to radio or watch much TV, so such threads really drive me up a wall.

[Danger Mouse]

346. I can't believe he just said that!!!

With absolutely no context or explanation...yeah, that would get old pretty quick ;)

[treestar]

342. Wake up on the wrong side of the bed today?

And need to take it out on DU?

:popcorn:

[Danger Mouse]

345. Yes? No? Maybe so?

Not really.
:)

[Bluerthanblue]

356. i hate it

when people post nasty responses to posts that are good-bye's.

I understand the impluse, being left is not a positive thing, but somehow the wise-crack remarks make me feel like i'm back in grade school... "I know you are but what am I?"- kind of thing, but this is my hang-up, and people have a right to post whatever they want.



blu

[Danger Mouse]

358. you mean, when someone does an 'i'm leaving thread' ?

or are you referring to something else?

[Bluerthanblue]

366. yeah, either that or

an "I'm feeling like I don't belong here" or "I'm leaving the US" or 'looking to' kind of post-

Sometimes the person posting might just need to hear that they aren't alone in their perspective- (at least that's my take on it) and getting kicked when they are down seems like .. bad form-??
I've been told i'm over sensitive, but i want to stay that way~

I found a pop-corn smiley for ya-



no buggy eyes- :P

[Danger Mouse]

368. i'm a little ambivalent on that issue...

i think a lot of times the 'i'm leaving du' threads are pure attention seeking, and in one case in the lounge, one last attack on his/her enemies as well as a denial of responsibility...in which case i have no problem with telling the person 'good riddance'
if the person is just lonely or sad or something, i may something nice, but i won't beg them to stay either.

[Bluerthanblue]

374. i can see that,

and you are probably right most of the time.
When my kids were littler, i remember they'd say "you just HATE me!" in they way you are describing. Sometimes i didn't respond well, but -for me- either saying nothing, or simply reminding them of why that wasn't true usually worked, or at least didn't haunt me at 3:00am.

I'm kind of an anomaly here, i don't always key into personalities well.

I can agree playing into attention seeking behaviour wouldn't be a positive thing, and i'm not big on begging either-

peace,
blu

[BeHereNow]

376. Speaking truth to power, here is what I have to say about it:

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh:
MEME!
:rofl:
BHN

[Danger Mouse]

380. my official reaction to this post...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr49c9BHKoA

[dorkulon]

382. .

:eyes:

[Danger Mouse]

386. Thanks for a great thread everyone!

I'm glad it turned out so nicely. :hi:
It's nice to see a thread where people have a good time and for the most part it doesn't get personally or snarky.
It was just a fun, positive thread, and it made me happy. So thanks. :)

[TorchTheWitch]

387. More pet peeves...

1. Posting an entire block of emoticons... is there some reason I need to look at 4 dozen bouncing green smilies when I can see ONE just fine?

2. Freeperisms (HUGH!11!!!, series, moran, screwn, etc.)... after so many years they are no longer humorous and just makes us look stupid.

3. When unable to come up with a reasonable response, insult spelling and grammar.

4. Believing that Freepers have worse spelling and grammar than we do (they don't - we're just as guilty) and when we do it using the excuse that it was a typo or the poster just typed too fast or .

5. Starting a thread with "OMG!!!! I THINK I'M GONNA PUKE!!!" If you really feel like you're going to puke, kindly refrain from announcing it, and do it in private elsewhere... I don't want to hear about your need to puke any more than I want to hear about your need to belch or fart.

6. The latest outrage committed by Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Glen Beck, etc... why the hell do you listen to these freaks, and why in the world do you imagine I give a crap what they think? It's not like we don't know that everything that comes out of their mouths is well compensated crap, and that finding anything they say even worthy of notice further lines their already bulging pockets.

7. The Lounge... a total waste of bandwidth that practically advertises there are far too many of us that have nothing remotely intelligent to say, have no life and a deep need to be listened to.

8. Starting a thread that is nothing but a link... if you're too lazy to give at least a snip and your thoughts on whatever it is you're linking to, I'm too lazy to bother with it.

9. Starting yet another thread to add to the multiple threads already on the first page about a particular topic... I still get sweaty palms recalling the dozen or more first page threads discussing Colbert's balls.

10. Gleefully announcing "____ for President!" just because ____ made some worthy comment. Believe it or not, I don't chose a presidential candidate based on a single worthy comment they made on some subject.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

391. "Please help me respond to a wacky freeper email that I just got from my wife!"

[BlooInBloo]

393. Good one.

[BlooInBloo]

392. "make no mistake". Why DUers insist on sounding like republicans is beyond me.

[kenny blankenship]

394. that reminds me: "in harm's way"

[Rosa Luxemburg]

395. don't you ever take away the 'evil grin' smiley

I love it:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

[DutchLiberal]

397. What's IBTL?

Oh, and the :eyes: CAN be useful from time to time.

[ecstatic]

398. LOL. The mysterious "DLC" organization is wayyy overused for convenience nt

[AnotherGreenWorld]

400. Way to hold those democrats feet to the fire

And the way you speak truth to power is very nice as well.

What really annoys me is when people use the phrase "it begs the question" to mean "it raises the question." Journalists do this every few sentences.

[deepthought42]

401. ...

:popcorn:

What??? I'm hungry... :bats eyes*

:evilgrin: