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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:03 PM
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Tillman: "vote for Bush’s Democratic opponent"
A long article from September 2005. I have not read all of it yet.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/09/25/MNGD7ETMNM1.DTL&type=printable

The battle between a grieving family and the U.S. military justice system is on display in thousands of pages of documents strewn across Mary Tillman’s dining room table in suburban San Jose.

As she pores through testimony from three previous Army investigations into the killing of her son, former football star Pat Tillman, by his fellow Army Rangers last year in Afghanistan, she hopes that a new inquiry launched in August by the Pentagon’s inspector general finally will answer the family’s questions:

Were witnesses allowed to change their testimony on key details, as alleged by one investigator? Why did internal documents on the case, such as the initial casualty report, include false information? When did top Pentagon officials know that Tillman’s death was caused by friendly fire, and why did they delay for five weeks before informing his family?

“There have been so many discrepancies so far that it’s hard to know what to believe,” Mary Tillman said. “There are too many murky details.” The files the family received from the Army in March are heavily censored, with nearly every page containing blacked-out sections; most names have been deleted. (Names for this story were provided by sources close to the investigation.) At least one volume was withheld altogether from the family, and even an Army press release given to the media has deletions. On her copies, Mary Tillman has added competing marks and scrawls — countless color-coded tabs and angry notes such as “Contradiction!” “Wrong!” and “????”
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:05 PM
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1. Look to the mothers, the wives, the daughters.
They won't rest. They will insist on knowing what happened to their son, their husband, their father.

:hug: Mary Tillman.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:17 PM
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8. They are not alone.
I don't give a shit about professional football. I have never watched a singe game of my own choice.

But this is more than sports. This is murder for political reasons and nothing can slap you in the face any harder.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:12 PM
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2. This is travesty #2; the fact he was murdered, and the fact the family was
lied to. I cannot believe my gov't did this, but ohhh, yes I can.

Bookmarked.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:13 PM
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6. Bookmarked here as well.
Found it linked from a site we don't mention. But still a very relevant find on their part.
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Tanuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:18 PM
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3. His commander later called Tillman "worm dirt" because he was an atheist
Edited on Fri Jul-27-07 10:22 PM by Tanuki
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/24/pats-worm-dirt/

"Kauzlarich, now a battalion commanding officer at Fort Riley in Kansas, further suggested the Tillman family's unhappiness with the findings of past investigations might be because of the absence of a Christian faith in their lives.

In an interview with ESPN.com, Kauzlarich said: "When you die, I mean, there is supposedly a better life, right? Well, if you are an atheist and you don't believe in anything, if you die, what is there to go to? Nothing. You are worm dirt. So for their son to die for nothing, and now he is no more — that is pretty hard to get your head around that. So I don't know how an atheist thinks. I can only imagine that that would be pretty tough."

Asked by ESPN.com whether the Tillmans' religious beliefs are a factor in the ongoing investigation, Kauzlarich said, "I think so. There is not a whole lot of trust in the system or faith in the system . So that is my personal opinion, knowing what I know."



(edited for typo)

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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:10 PM
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5. I remember reading that.
And find it just as disgusting today.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:45 PM
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10. I do, too; his mom or brother repeated that during the hearings. nt
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:14 PM
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Actually, Tillman Would Say He's Right.
Of course, he's also an insensitive asshole. But what a good Christian!
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:14 PM
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7. Dupe n/t
Edited on Fri Jul-27-07 11:15 PM by Toasterlad
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grumpy old fart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:28 PM
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4. Tillman killed by Bushies?
interesting threads being <a href="http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_rob_kall_070727_did_bush_admin_order.htm">woven</a>, and not from whole cloth....

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:29 PM
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9. WOW- thanks for that GOF!
I personally side with the poster who suggested that the job
was done by a Blackwater merc.
I think that is the most likely scenario and would
explain the Kabal's scrambling to cover it all up.
BHN
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 12:15 AM
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11. It's like the 9/11 commision all over again.
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PetrusMonsFormicarum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 12:55 AM
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12. And Why Executive Privilege?
Why is the Ass Clown's Dark House stonewalling the examination of documents pertaining to this particular case? How high goes the conspiracy to cover up this man's death? Once again, the simple way, fessing up to a very tragic friendly fire incident, would have ended any controversy. And if this was not an accident, and this man was murdered . . .


http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Law_scholar_baffled_by_Executive_Privilege_0716.html
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 01:33 AM
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13. I think the term "executed" is more to the point than "murdered."
It may not have been 'formal' but it was done, it was covered up, and the cover-up reaches right into the WH itself.
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