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Sat Jul-28-07 01:48 AM
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If it was known since '06 that Tillman was assassinated, why is it only news now? |
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Sat Jul-28-07 01:52 AM
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rethug congress.
aka no oversight.
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Sat Jul-28-07 01:56 AM
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2. Two more words: Good point. |
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Sat Jul-28-07 12:13 PM
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Sun Jul-29-07 01:54 PM
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Executive Privilege.
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Mon Jul-30-07 04:37 PM
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Edited on Mon Jul-30-07 04:37 PM by in_cog_ni_to
Cover-Up.
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Sat Jul-28-07 02:08 AM
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3. It was known, but by whom? |
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Not me, until recently. Hell, half this country thought for a long time 9/11 was because of Iraq. It takes a lot of time for the majority to know things.
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Sat Jul-28-07 11:54 AM
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5. The above link takes you to an NY Times article from Spring of '06.... |
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...so why is this only "front page" news now?
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Sat Jul-28-07 11:04 PM
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11. I don't know, but sniffing the wind, something is brewing. Don't ask me what it is. nt |
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Sat Jul-28-07 11:54 PM
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12. you mean someone from the inside, willing to bring down the house of cards |
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Sun Jul-29-07 10:37 PM
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23. I don't know, but certain powerful elements are scared shitless |
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about something involving this, and they seem willing to put a lot of heat on people who get too "close" to something. But I could be wrong. I sincerely don't know what it is.
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Sat Jul-28-07 02:50 AM
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4. And Bush**ler's Assertion of "Executive Privilege" Raised a Red Flag or Two |
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Is murder an "executive privilege"?
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Sat Jul-28-07 11:56 AM
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6. Gotta be investigated, doncha know... |
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All these things take Time
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Sat Jul-28-07 12:07 PM
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7. that seems to be the thing we're running out of... |
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...to get this cabal to pay for its crimes...
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Sat Jul-28-07 12:11 PM
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8. I did a DU search all the way back to '05 |
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There really hasn't been a new development in the case other than the coroner's report.
The basic facts have been known, by us at least, for years.
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Sat Jul-28-07 12:28 PM
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10. right -- which brings me to my question |
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especially in light of the year-plus old NY Times piece linked above....
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Sun Jul-29-07 12:01 AM
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13. The coroner's report is the reason for the new attention |
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Before, yes, there were questions, mysteries, the possibility than Tillman did not die by enemy hand. This coroner's report makes the truth of the matter appallingly clear: Three bullets to the forehead.
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Sun Jul-29-07 01:42 PM
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15. Another BFEE-hit. I'm wondering if there were any *pre* Dallas, we've missed? |
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Sun Jul-29-07 01:50 PM
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16. I'm not ready to make that leap |
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I find it appalling enough that the truth of this man's death was and is being hidden by the White House.
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Sun Jul-29-07 02:22 PM
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19. given their track record, we can assume the Bushies are guilty until |
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the unlikely event they are proven "innocent"
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Sun Jul-29-07 12:02 AM
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14. the times they are a-changin' |
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Dems held hearings, Kevin Tillman testified, raising awareness Dems asked for info, got EP'ed AP made a splash about the coroner report, the mood of the country has shifted enough that other media piled on, being the jackals they are.
Timing is everything.
I'm glad that the Tillman family may finally get the truth.
That will leave only about 9,999 lies we need to expose.
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Sun Jul-29-07 01:56 PM
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18. Didn't the e-mails of the military lawyers |
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congratulating each other for keeping the lid on everything to prevent a criminal investigation just surface? Maybe there is an insider who is leaking.
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Sun Jul-29-07 02:34 PM
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20. I believe that Tillman's death and subsequent cover-up is tied in some way to the DOJ/NSA wiretappin |
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scandal - don't ask me how, but I just have a strong suspicion. When Pat Tillman was killed, I told my family, "They killed him."
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Sun Jul-29-07 02:42 PM
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21. Ultimately it is all tied to the Bush/Cheney co-presidency. |
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The Bushies didn't kill Pat Tillman physically. But what they did to his identity, reputation, and legacy is a crime. We don't know they did it, of course. We do know that they won't provide evidence either way. And when was the last time that exculpatory evidence didn't find some way out of the Bush Administration's information black hole?
They don't hide information that is good for them. They sometimes make it up, but they don't hide it.
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Sun Jul-29-07 03:23 PM
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22. There was a GOP congress assisting the cover-up |
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Now there is a Dem congress and they are holding hearings and asking for documents and reports.
The Republicans just use the troops as props, but when the photo op is over they dont care what happens to them.
They have proven this over and over..
The Republicans knew the troops didnt have proper armor, but did nothing because they dont care.
The Republicans knew the troops were having their tours extended, but did nothing because they dont care.
The Republicans knew the troops were not getting proper rest between tours, but did nothing because they dont care.
For years the Republicans knew about the problems at Walter Reed, but did nothing because they dont care.
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Sun Jul-29-07 10:54 PM
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24. I haven't read anything that concluded he was intentionally killed... |
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Edited on Sun Jul-29-07 10:55 PM by cynatnite
With the actions of those soldiers before and after Tillman's death it does make it appear as many believe. Personally, I belive it was friendly fire and those soldiers panicked in the worst possible way...burning his stuff and so on. Because of that, officers up the chain of command covered-up which eventually led to the WH. It would hurt recruiting efforts, image of the Army, their cheerleading of the war and they'd have to actually say that 'war really is hell'.
What hasn't helped in this entire mess is the doctors, IMO. I question their experience in doing autopsies. When a bullet hits something the damage done is usually dependent on how far away the shooter is. Usually, the closer you are..the more damage depending on the caliber and what you are shooting at. Since I haven't read the autopsy report and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night, I do not know how much damage occured to Tillman's body. I do not know if Pat Tillman was standing up, prone or anything.
If he was lying on his stomach and his head could be seen by those firing upon him, a soldier could hit it a lot further than 10 yards away. Hell, in the Army they made sure we could hit paper targets a lot further away than 10 yards.
The other question I had was about the bullets themselves. Were there three bullets from three different guns? Two from one and one from another? Three from one gun?
These are the things I'd like to know.
Disclaimer: This is only my opinion and it's subject to change as more facts come out. Should concrete evidence arise to contradict my opinions I will apologize to those who demand it. :)
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Mon Jul-30-07 04:15 PM
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25. More media manipulation/dejavu from the Media Industrial Complex |
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