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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 02:01 AM
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The GOP show what cowards they are.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20070727/us_time/willthegopsaynotoyoutube

The sequel to the self-styled "ground-breaking" YouTube debate on CNN may be history before it even begins.


The Rudy Giuliani campaign has cited scheduling conflicts in saying it will skip the Republican version of this week's Democratic debate, while Mitt Romney has mocked the seriousness of the questions and also seems likely to withdraw. John McCain, one of two candidates who had agreed to participate (Ron Paul is the other), has also expressed doubts about the Democratic debate's level of decorum and aides say he may reconsider his commitment. Undeclared candidate Fred Thompson may still not officially be in the race by the event's Sept. 17 airdate.


The Republicans' sudden aversion has political observers wondering whether abandoning an opportunity to participate in the fledging format shows a potentially costly reluctance to engage with voters or is simply an exercise in prudent message management.


CNN's YouTube debate with the Democratic candidates, heralded as an almost life-changing event for American voters, had its rough moments (the puppet snowman, the man with a gun for a baby), and even those on stage complained (Joe Biden referred to it at one point as a "ridiculous exercise"). But once the cameras were turned off, the event received warm reviews from most observers in the mainstream media. The Washington Post's Dan Balz called it "the best of the campaign season," the Chicago Tribune's blog said it was the "summer's best reality show," and the New York Times said that the viewer-submitted questions were able to elicit "points of difference on a broad range of issues, from whether the United States should build more nuclear power plants to whether it would be good policy - or even feasible - to withdraw American troops from Iraq within six months."


The view from the right was less favorable about the impact of this technological shift on politics. White House spokesman Tony Snow told reporters that the President had not even watched, saying Bush was "not big on YouTube debates." Hugh Hewitt, a popular right-wing blogger and radio talk show host, got more specific about what conservatives might object to in a CNN/YouTube debate - he alleged that CNN cherrypicked the submissions for biased questions that a "responsible" journalist wouldn't ask: "the CNN team used the device of the third-party video to inject a question that would have embarrassed any anchor posing it." One staffer for a Republican candidate now leaning toward not participating put it this way: "The problem isn't YouTube, it's CNN."

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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 02:06 AM
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1. Gutless asswipes need to have a corporate media whore in charge
or they run away. Thety will have a debate with Leslie Blitzer or Tweety or some other shit-for-brains.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 02:09 AM
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2. I want to see Paul and McCain go mano-a-mano!
the dialogue oughta be as coherent as a Beckett play.
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 04:16 AM
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3. - saying Bush was "not big on YouTube debates."
"He used to be into them - back in the eighties but to his mind, now, they're old, they're stale," said the dilapidated White House spokesman.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 06:13 AM
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4. Did some WH flunkie
really say that? That would make a great sound bite considering You Tube is a very recent phenomenon.
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 02:28 PM
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10. Nobody said that
but that's my point. Snow said Bush isn't big on You Tube debates - wasn't that the first one ever?
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 03:24 PM
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11. * was pissed about the youtube debates
it cut into his spongebob marathon.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 06:23 AM
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5. Romney said he needed to be somewhere else to raise
funds and that he thought the YouTube debate wasn't dignified enough to participate in because the office demanded more respect.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 06:28 AM
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6. reality-phobia?
if they don't want to respond to real concerns now, what makes you think they will listen to real concerns if president?



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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 06:41 AM
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7. This Is The Second Debate They've Run From...
Of course the corporate media paid no notice that ALL the Democratic candidates went and debated at a Univision-sponsored debate in Miami..but the Repugnicans ran away...afraid to face a group of people they demonize...and moreso, to reach out to this large voting bloc in their language. It was easier for these chickenshits to pander to the racists than to dialogue with potential voters.

Now they're doing it with the younger voters. Yep, that scary YouTube is sure to question these candidates on some of their goofy positions...like those who still in the 19th Century regarding evolution and still are barely in the 20th century on most other issues. These are goons who are used to canned hunts, staged photo-ops and "staying on message"...looks like that message only matters if you're white, male and xtian...(but only the RIGHT xtian).
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 06:47 AM
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8. Cut and run Republics....
Even if the media doesn't notice, we need to make certain that the people do.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 06:54 AM
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9. I Like That One...
We could come up with a large list of things these asshats run from...starting with the draft and marital responsibility...then go on to all the bills the GOOpers are obstructing in the Senate.

I'd love CNN to go ahead with this debate...empty podiums and just run all the questions with the caption "Here's another the chickenshits were afraid to answer". Or maybe some handpuppets (like Olbermann's) that would debate...my bets are we get a lot more revealing answers.

Cheers...
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 03:30 PM
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12. They probably saw the videos.
Buncha rednecks, I bet. Don't wanna be associated with them types, I bet. That was the reason Rush Limbaugh isn't on TV anymore. People got a good look at the type who would queue up for tickets to his show. Not a pretty sight.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 04:50 PM
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13. Surely they could have Rush and Sean's audiences...
...generate all the softball questions they could want to run out the clock. Why in the world should they fear this gimmick, when it can so easily be harnessed?
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