New DU Group: Impeach Group

[Skinner]

The mission of the DU Impeach Group is to discuss impeachment as a strategy for dismantling the power of the current administration. We do not want to debate the merits of impeachment, but rather the hows of accomplishing this. The Impeach Group discusses how to accomplish impeachment of the current administration, the most effective ways to lobby Congress, and Democrats who may or may not favor impeachment. Members are not permitted endorse or support non-Democratic party candidates who support impeachment.

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[MissWaverly]

1. Bright idea, Skinner

heck, I will remember this at the next fund drive.

:-)

[radfringe]

2. oh yeah!

[mmonk]

3. It's on.

:patriot: :bounce: :party:

[Swamp Rat]

4. Thank you... I strive for catharsis with every brush stroke.

[madokie]

5. Thank you

[sellitman]

6. To all Lurkers...

I hope your head is exploding!

[EFerrari]

34. And your little dog, too!

:rofl:

[NotGivingUp]

7. Ah...I see...the most important subject of our time is being shoved in a closet. n/t

[mmonk]

8. No. Not a place for debating the merits but for

looking at ways to push impeachment with congress.

[snappyturtle]

9. I would think if the new group adhers to the methodology of

impeachment, we should still see other posts about it in General Discussion and LBN; hopefully, for announcements of upcoming hearings to draft it!

[mmonk]

10. Any resolutions I would presume

would be represented in General Discussion in the form of announcement.

[snappyturtle]

12. Hopefully. n/t

[Skinner]

13. Oh, fercryinoutloud.

It's not being shoved in a closet. Some members who are interested in Impeachment specifically requested an Impeach Group:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1455518&mesg_id=1455518

...so we created it.

Members can still post about Impeachment elsewhere on the discussion forum.

[mmonk]

14. Thanks for knocking down that myth, Skinner.

[WilliamPitt]

16. Does it come with crying towels

so they can wipe the tears as they talk about being in the "dungeon"?

So rewarding to do as you were asked, eh?

[mzmolly]

18. LOL. Hey, you forgot "ghetto" and "exile."

;) http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1439024#1452892

Amazing how the same "idea" can be taken treated differently depending, huh?

[mmonk]

26. An action group is different from a discussion group.

Were you suggesting an impeachment activist group or a separate discussion area for impeachment?

[mzmolly]

45. If you read the thread, I said I'd like to see both. A place to find impeachment

discussion easily and to organize.

[mmonk]

27. An impeachment activist group is different from this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1439024

This is not an Impeachment discussion group or area.

[proud2BlibKansan]

42. It's an activism group, Will

Some of us are done debating the merits and ready to DO something.

And it has been very productive so far. We are already networking and hooking up via phone calls and emails.

You are more than welcome to join us! :)

[proud2BlibKansan]

17. Thank you Skinner

and bless you. Sometimes I don't understand how you guys stand it around here. :)

[ninkasi]

32. Thanks, Skinner

I'm going to be following this with much interest. I saw the request, and appreciate the forum.

[EFerrari]

36. No good deed goes unpunished.

lol

[Canuckistanian]

37. You just can't win with some people, can you?

You're either accused of ignoring new ideas or you're damned for "sidelining" debate.

I for one agree wholeheartedly with this move.

It'll be like a "clearing house" for impeachment news.

My thanks to all you guys, yourself, Elad and EarlG.

[merh]

44. bookmarked this so that when the mods move

threads not posted in the group to the group, they can be reminded of your position.

:hi:

[rucky]

11. And every week we'll vote on who to impeach from the group.

sorry, wrong forum.

[EFerrari]

35. . . .

:spank:

[roxnev]

15. Impeach now

The reason Democrats should bring impeachment in to play, is to play the same Game As the Republicans are playing, Stalling for time By agreeing then disagreeing. The house could slowly string Impeachment hearings out till bush is out of office
Article 2
Section 2 The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States,:evil: except in Cases of Impeachment.

Congress may not restrain the president's power to pardon, except in impeachment cases:).

By bringing impeachment against the President and staff, and the Vice President, No one could be Pardoned, set the impeachment trail for Jan 5 2009. That way there could be no promise of pardon. Any plea of executive privilege would be considered obstruction of justice

http://www.senate.gov/civics/constitution_item/constitution.htm

[mzmolly]

19. "They've left us no other choice."

;) Thanks for the info and welcome!

[John Q. Citizen]

20. Thanks Skinner. It's already getting a lot of use. To those DUers who are interested

in putting impeachment back on the table and then shoving it down the administration's throat, come on up and let's get to work.

Just take the elevator or the stairs to the top floor of DU, or use the convienent heloport. It's not down in the dungeon, it's up in the penthouse suite!

[cynatnite]

21. I wouldn't mind joining, but...

will this become a place to trash dems like Conyers when they don't move some might expect?

[mzmolly]

46. Yep, that's my concern. Any group that is serious about "impeachment" needs to consider

various view points, not let a couple vocal people dictate the terms of the debate.

[MsMagnificent]

22. Awesome!

Need to clear out a group to fit this one in...
why is there a limit to groups?

[ClusterFreak]

23. Kicked...and....

Rec-the-fuck-o-mmended!!!:bounce: :kick: :headbang: :applause: :woohoo:

[davidwparker]

24. merci mille fois!

[camusrebel]

25. Just make very certain we all are in agreement about

DOING DICK FIRST. House Res. 333 now has 15 brave reps signed on....its almost over the top!! Is your Rep one of the courageous heroes.....or a complicit coward?

After Deadeye is gone, moron will pick a new vp............THEN we nail his retarded ass

See, so we will never have to hear about Pelosi caving, putting it back on the table just so she can be president. Do Dick First....he's WAY more evil. Plus, whose gonna pull the trigger on Iran, chimpy?? Lets get the by far more dangerous psycopath first.......this makes perfect sense yes?

Can I get some response? feedback?

[davidwparker]

43. "or a complicit coward" - Mine's a Republicon, but I'll still make the calls. n/t

I agree that Cheney is first.

[NotGivingUp]

28. hmm...are you feeling the dampness yet....of the deep dark hole?

bu-bye...impeachment is oooooffffff theee table. The 'parties' say so. If you impeach, that would entail the truth...the truth behind all of us....the truth behind what you think is YOUR country.

[BlooInBloo]

29. Does this mean such threads will be moved?

[Tom Joad]

30. this is a peachy idea! eom

[Jim Sagle]

31. Fuckin' A.

[superkia]

33. We really need to except that

both sides have the same agenda. If they impeach or truly go after the wrong doings to the constitution, it will make the news where all the blind Americans form their opinions from. If that happens, it will show how corrupt the government as a whole is and eventually people will see our governments plan and will not stand for it. If you havent seen Aaron Russo's documentary yet, you really should take a look. Its not only about the tax scam its about the overall plan, which seems to be moving forward faster than I ever thought it could. I just saw on the news today two different reports about the so called problem with terrorists using the internet and how bush is pushing to update an old law. That menas that we wont be able to discuss things like this on the phone or the internet without breaking a law. By the time most Americans notice their freedoms being taken, it will probably be too late?

I am ordering 100 copies of the documentary and handing them out to some friends and co-workers, hopefully it will open some of their eyes. We need to get the message out!

[countmyvote4real]

38. Please help me understand this group about Impeachment.

How is it that when the margins are so tight (in the Senate) and essentially off-the-table in the House, this DU group does not allow any references to non-Democratic Party proponents for the impeachment of this malicious administration?

I should back up a bit. In my mind, Impeachment is about the rule of law and when confined to the rule of law, it results in the support of our Constitution. The exception is the impeachment of Bill Clinton for lying about extra-marital affairs. That was clearly political. And he was ultimately acquitted of high crimes and misdemeanors. He lied about an extramarital blow-job that killed (wait for it)… nobody.

Now we have the worst POTUS ever by many accounts. He’s clearly lied his way to the deaths of countless Iraqi civilians as well as over 3500 of our own troops. Why in the world would DU limit discussion of this topic to Democratic supporters? (Especially when there are so few supporters for impeachment.)

Impeachment in this case should not be a partisan issue. It’s about our Constitution. We (DU or whatever) the people should celebrate and champion any voices from across the aisle that support the impeachment of this tyrant.

So, please inform me and anybody else that visits this site why this is not allowed in this DU forum. Are DU and the Democratic party really that precious and exclusive?

I think otherwise, but I would like to know the rational behind this directive or more to the point, this obstruction to the actual impeachment of this administration. Face the facts. We need the other side to do really do this.

Sorry for pissing on the DU Impeachment group. I think I’m becoming more of an Independent by these exclutions.

[EFerrari]

39. It's entirely possible to strategize impeachment without

violating DU rules. Come on over. :)

[garthranzz]

40. ABOUT TIME! THANK YOU, SKINNER!

Now, let's do it. Let's get the lying coward who steals elections out of office.

[glowing]

41. Skinner... While I don't agree with endorsing another political party

to win any election, I think we have to push all sides to impeach and if that means crossing the lines to haggle their offices, I think it is necessary. The pressure has to put on all the congress... they are ignoring us.