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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 04:30 PM
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The Village Bipartisan Block Party...Somewhere a new well of stupidity has been opened
Edited on Sat Jul-28-07 04:31 PM by ProSense
Saturday, July 28, 2007

The Village Bipartisan Block Party

by digby
Atrios and Jim Henley both handily dispatch this mewling piece about bipartisanship from Anne Marie Slaughter in today's Washington Post, but I was struck by this question from John Emerson in Henley's comment section:

Someone has to trace this bipartisan meme to its source. It’s everywhere these days. Broder himself is too senile to be the prime mover, though I’m sure that whoever started promoting the meme penciled Broder’s name in at the top of his list of prospective vectors.

Somewhere a new well of stupidity has been opened to compete with the heretofore dominant neocon / winger stupidity stream. It would seem that some big player has abandoned the wingers and is moving toward a fall-back position. The memo is obviously out there. But who sent it?


This has actually been going on since the election and I'm a little bit surprised that it's taken so long to reach critical mass. It's coming from the Republicans, of course, aided and abetted by their beltway courtiers.
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"Bipartisanship" is only operative when the Democrats are in power. I don't recall hearing the commentariat scolding the Republicans for not being more accommodating to Democrats during their 12 year reign of terror, do you? I certainly don't recall a lot of garment rending over how the Republicans were isolating their moderates. My recollection was that everyone was cheering the GOP's responsiveness to its "traditional values, low tax, patriotic" base. You remember --- the Real Americans? Karl Rove was widely considered to be a genius.

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This would have been a widely celebrated validation of Rove's scorched earth base strategy if the Republicans had prevailed in November. He was just being responsive to those that brung him, and that's the way democracy works, by Jove --- messy and loud, and God bless America! But sadly for the Village, the dirty hippies won the election and the only possible way the elders can keep them from enacting their crazy schemes like ending the Iraq war and providing health care for kids, is to insist that they share power with the Republicans. They still, even after all this time, believe that the Republicans are the grown-ups. I'll quote myself again:

... we are basically the janitors, winning the contract to clean up after the conservative frat boys who trashed the place for the last few years. And Daddy Broder believes his boys when they tell him it was the cleaning people who caused all the damage because he just can't bring himself to admit that they are out-of-control misfits. After all, they come from such good families and dress so nicely when they come to the club.


And as for how this meme gets spread, I will simply direct you to a piece in the NY Times book review written by Peter Beinert back in 2003:

In ''The Great Unraveling,'' Krugman tries to harness his columns into one overarching argument about the Bush presidency. In the introduction, he calls the administration a ''revolutionary power'' -- a term he takes from Henry Kissinger's analysis of France under Robespierre and Napoleon -- that wants to replace the post-New Deal order with an undiluted plutocracy. But to make his case, Krugman has to do more than merely dissect the administration's policies; he has to explain its motives and culture. And here Krugman's unconventional background becomes a liability. He criticizes Washington reporters for being prisoners of their sources, and the dinner-party-going "commentariat" for succumbing to groupthink. But guest lists that cross ideological lines can help liberals understand the conservatives they write about. And many Washington conservatives genuinely don't see the Bush administration as radical: they see it as having ratified a big-spending, culturally liberal status quo. Krugman assumes a revolutionary consciousness that may not actually exist on the ground.


There you go.



July 28, 2007

I Know When I’m Beat

The only honorable thing to do is admit that Anne-Marie Slaughter’s new oped in the Washington Post beats Anne Applebaum out for the title of dumbest thing ever written by anyone in any venue. If it weren’t print, I’d expect her to break into a rendition of “Fly Away, Lesbian Seagull” like the hippie teacher in the Beavis & Butthead movie.

Anne-Marie, let me put it very simply: People like you are responsible for getting the United States into Iraq, people like you make it much harder for us to get out, and people like you increase the danger of newer, stupider wars in Iran and Syria and wherever else. People like you, frankly, validated the set of policies that fostered the September 11, 2001 atrocities before that. If you get the feeling we hate you for that it’s because we hate you for that. Because you realy, really, really messed up. And you couldn’t have messed up that monumentally if you didn’t spend half your time constructing an artificially narrow range of foreign policy outlooks and the other half congratulating yourselves for doing so.

(Note that, in many ways, Slaughter’s oped is Applebaum’s oped, so it may not even be meaningful to distinguish between the two of them.)

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 04:34 PM
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1. Very much recommended. .
Lets all just get along (and do it my way).

It started right at the beginning of the new Democratic majority. It's a Lieberman-kind of bipartisanship they're talking about and it is POISON for Democrats.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 04:49 PM
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5. It started BEFORE the election in 06, as SOON as the fascists realized they
were NOT going to be able to steal enough congressional elections to maintain their stranglehold on power, even though, through Dem timidity and the Senate "Rules," they've manage to thwart any semblance of progress since the new congress has taken over

I doubt things will change much, even if a dem candidate takes the WH

I hope I'm wrong, but Clinton failed to go after the Reaganbush crimimals when he took over, and that's why we are where we are today. my guess is, if dems DO take the reigns, things are SO irreversibly horrible now, and will get MUCH worse, no matter what they do, that they'll be BLAMED for the effects of eight years of dumbo, and will be swept out office in 2012

again, I hope I'm wrong, but I still think I'm going to wake up tomorrow and find it's been a long, drawn out nightmare

however, something tells me, as Rosemary, from "Rosemary's Baby," said: "This is really HAPPENING"....we're just not getting raped by the devil
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 04:35 PM
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2. Bipartisanship" is only operative when the Democrats are in power.
Sez it all!!!!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 04:55 PM
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6. Yep
sure does.
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 05:51 PM
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10. A small quibble: When Rethugs have power, "Bipartisanship" means
democrats don't filibuster or any of the other mean "obstructionist" tactics that prevent "getting things done."

But otherwise, this is pretty spot on.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 07:17 AM
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14. Indeed, in that scenario, it's "Do what we tell you, and we'll throw you a bone that WE would like
anyway, but perhaps need you to cover for us because our fundy pals might not approve!"

In this scenario, we're like the kid who is of age, buying the beer or dirty magazines for their rich, pampered underage "pal!"
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 07:26 AM
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15. I like that analogy!
I have been saying that censure letters and subpoenas are like taking away their cell phones and car keys.

Now they want us to buy beer and porn for them. And sadly, we have leaders who will do just that.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 04:38 PM
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3. I seem to remember...
Back when reTHUGs had all the power, I remember Gingrich or Delay or one of them laughing that "bipartisanship is like date rape" and they just weren't going to have anything to do with it.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 05:36 PM
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9. Grover Norquist, all his quotes come back to bite him, LOL.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 11:21 PM
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13. Oh, yes, he of the colorful metaphors.
He's the one who came up with drowning the government in a bathtub, too.

What a charmer....
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 04:43 PM
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4. great thanks for introducing me to Jim Henley
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 04:57 PM
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7. "Bipartisanship sure means different things to different people.
Edited on Sat Jul-28-07 05:04 PM by EST
I guess if you're a republican it means "we're gonna boss and you guys get to work with us. If you don't want to work with us, you must be anti American and we hate you and didn't want to work with you any way."

I read, somewhere, that four percent of any large population is psychotic to psychopathic. I wonder what makes up the other twenty percent of the neocon/cheneybush supporters.




Until the more rational of the republican party rise up and throw out the leading nutcases in their ranks, there is just no way to deal with them.
"Reality challenged" might be the better term.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 05:17 PM
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8. GOP bipartisanship: "I'll hit you less if you promise not to leave me."
Recommended, with thanks.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 09:04 PM
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11. Kick! n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 11:16 PM
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12. Kick! n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 06:12 PM
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16. Kick! n/t
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