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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 02:59 AM
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Question Authority
Nixon was paranoid, and a liar to some extent, but even for all his human foibles, there seemed to exist a core of decency in the man. Decent enough to fund the EPA, and to forbid the BIA from excising tribes from the rolls, and decent enough to resign when he realized how much damage he'd done to his party and the presidency.

The people behind many of Nixon's mistakes, however, have been recycled through the Republican party for the past thirty-five years, surfacing again during the Reagan administration on the fringes of the Iran/Contra scandal (and the question of whether someone negotiated with Iran to hold the hostages until after the election).

Grover Norquist, one of the founding fathers of the neocon movement, is still the twisted bastard he's always been. His government-drowning wet dream seems to be the foundation of nearly everything the neocons have tried to do, to reduce American faith in government to a mere fraction of its potential. OF COURSE the neocons distrust government--not only does it interfere with the power of the corporate sector, but they're just so BAD at governing in the first place that it would seem obvious to them that government doesn't work. THEIR notion of government doesn't work, but, then again, that should come as no surprise. They don't WANT it to.

They've had these thirty-five years, and a whole shopping list of missteps, to hone their skills at both manipulation of data and public opinion. Darling Raygun played this message with his "we're from the government and we're here to help" line, and the stage for all of this nonsense in Iraq and the Muddle East was set up during his administration. It was only a matter of time before they put together some excuse for occupying an oil-rich nation. They just weren't sure WHERE and WHEN.

We SHOULD be suspicious of government. Our founding fathers certainly were. They understood how power attracts the corruptible. But the message we should be getting out is that we should be suspicious of POWER, in all its many forms.

"Question Authority" isn't just some trite, outdated phrase, but something all humans should do on a constant basis. By crippling government, they've set the stage for everything to be controlled by corporate fiat, and there is NO reason to believe the corporations would be any more benevolent than government. The chances are far less, as a matter of fact, for corporations make no bones about their primary purpose being the accumulation of profit.

Governments collect power. Corporations collect power and profit. As far as I'm concerned, government's main task should be limiting how much power any one entity, or conglomeration of entities, can amass. Including itself.

The message? "Corporations are no more inherently benevolent than government. If you are willing to cast a suspicious eye on one, you should not ignore the other."

The neocons and their Republican stooges have learned quite a bit in the past thirty-five years. Perhaps even more than we've learned, when you get right down to it. Meaning "we," the official arm of the Democratic Party, not those of us out here on the "fringes." WE get it. They either do NOT, or they're bound into the same destructive patterns as their Republican counterparts.

Government should be used to maintain public services, keep power from accumulating in any one place, and defend this nation from threats, both foreign and domestic. It is not a cure-all, by any means, but it IS the single thing we can rely on to prevent dangerous infections in the body politick. It has to be made to be more responsive to citizen needs and citizen concerns, and prevented from gaining a dangerous level of power in and of itself.

Crippling government to the advantage of the corporations is not an answer to government corruption or mismanagement. True oversight will take care of that. Not just congressional oversight, but citizen oversight.

The neocons are in the business of acquiring power for their corporate allies, and it is THIS that fuels their attacks against government. Nothing more, nothing less. As long as government is doing its job, and preventing the acquisition of too much power in one place, the neocons cannot succeed.

They serve Mammon, regardless of what God they CLAIM to serve. Greed above ALL.

GOP = Greed On Purpose.

They want more. More power, more money, more STUFF. No matter the cost to the future, or this nation as a whole. It's evil on an epic scale, but worse because it cloaks itself in the guise of good.

Nixon was a small evil, and, in the end, not all that evil at all. Just misguided and troubled as some humans are. But those he left behind have corrupted the whole system and it is that corruption that we now face. A canker at the heart of the rose. A cancer at the core of the American spirit.

They've been smart. We now have to be smarter. They've trained Americans to be reactive to soundbytes and now, as much as we hate to do it, we have to start thinking of how to put our message out in the same way. At least until we can start to reverse some of the damage they've done.

Having the best-crafted, most thoughtful, and brilliant message in the world isn't going to help unless we can get and keep the attention of the people. The stage is set. There may never be a better time to say what must be said.

It's going to take wit and talent, but we've got more of it than the Repugs and neo-cons have ever had.

"Corporations exist to take your money and make use of your labor. That's it. Anything else they promise you is a lie."

"The news media is telling you want they want you to think."

"Freedom means choosing for yourself, and allowing others to do the same."

"Diplomacy requires that we, occasionally, actually talk to our ENEMIES."

"Acting the swaggering bully doesn't ever engender friendship or trust."

"Big Business is NOT your friend. It wants to be your MASTER."

"Government isn't perfect, but just consider the alternative."

"Too much power in too few hands is DEADLY to the notion of liberty."

"Americans have always known when enough is enough. And we've had enough."
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MatrixEscape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:02 AM
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1. Let's see if we can get some things straight, first:
While I agree wholeheartedly with your inttial statements, I think that some of your quoted talking points need some clarification or elaboration, (as you are inciting).

"Corporations exist to take your money and make use of your labor. That's it. Anything else they promise you is a lie."

We can add that corporations have amassed a form of person-hood that has not only equaled your own as an individual, they have exceeded your rights by sheer economic power to the point that any vote they make, be it public or private, influential or financial, trumps and denigrates your choice as a valid member of a supposedly representational government. The nature of corporations coming to the point where a fictional entity becomes a virtually powerful entity represents nothing more than a modern-day, digital version of the power that the Feudal Lords held over their Serfs, in all the glory of a grand facade and a clever disguise.

"The news media is telling you what they want you to think."

The news media, (and can we just include all forms of corporately-owned, mass media while we are at it?) is not just telling you what they want you to think. Not at all. They are taking what you have already been taught and told to think, factoring in what you generally tend to think, and feeding it back to you in ways that make you seem to still be thinking anything while they expertly manipulate your tastes, behaviors, responses, and even your sorrows and frustration. That also applies to any aspect of the larger social equation that you inhabit, from contrived ideas about liberal versus democrat to rich versus poor to the supposedly intelligent versus the equally abstract notion of ignorant, unwashed masses, i.e., the poor and homeless.

If you want me to go on and I feel like it, then I just may. Who knows? Maybe not, if my point have been effectively made. I am aware that I am going into elaborate details, but perhaps they could be whittled down and incorporated into talking points that leave large, and exploitable holes, for the sake of simplicity.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:10 AM
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2. I have been trying to revive Question Authority * Think For Yourself
for several months now. I've never considered it trite or an outdated phrase. It was just simply dropped from the lexicon.

Perhaps that is due to the people who used that phrase (the most famous being) Timothy Leary and Robert Anton Wilson have passed away and no one picked up the mantle.

That is one of the main reasons I was trying to revive it. I think we should never be so docile that we forget that as Americans that is one of our responsibilities....

To THINK FOR YOURSELF * QUESTION AUTHORITY

The video I just worked on has Question Authority Think For Yourself message included in it. I posted my video in the video forum back on July 7th, or you can view it here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxZkYVCng4E

I've also been using it in my artwork....

Thanks for pointing this out with an excellent thread:thumbsup:





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MatrixEscape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:43 AM
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3. Then ...
Dare to question where you got the very ideas of the self you have to think for and quesiton the authority figures that impinged it upon your consciousness, form well-meaning parents who wanted you to live long and prosper to teachers who were entrusted with the notion of giving you insight into your innate capacity to think, (multi-million-year-old bio-computer_ and ended-up merely putting imaginary barriers around the self that you would eventually mutate into.

Yon are now dealing with a self that has been throughly convinced that it is willful, self-actualizing, and responsible for all its actions, and you have nothing to back that up with because, in the end, all the real choices were made long ago by the conditioning, and all the choices you might make today are riddled with dire penalties that you have been carefully trained avoid at all costs and for the sake of the survival of yourself and your beloved family. Are those the real conditions of freedom and choice? They must be questioned first, no matter what symbolic and practical barriers where hinged on our organismic survival.

A self that only appears to actually be one in relation to how it has been defined by others and the circumstances that surrounded its formation can be logically questioned with due concern, despite the obvious fears evoked and the potential results implied -- those are the ring-pass-naughts!

Choices that are only the apex of a confluence of various influences and circumstances can certainly be looked into with a logical sense of uncertainty when it is possible that the degree of influences far outweigh the inducment to merely believe that the chooser is solely responsible for the impending outcome.

If we cannot consider, weigh out, and grapple with the essential and basic concepts of free will versus determinism, then we can never know to what degree our own self can influence issues or how much it is merely the apex of an act of observation of a pattern that is merely providence.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:50 AM
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4. AMEN citizen!
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Beerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 05:23 AM
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5. Good post,
but I beg to differ that Nixon or his henchmen were human in any way. The Nixon regime suckled all the fascists that are currently exterminating everyone who disagrees with killing themselves. You're being way too charitable to Nixonian Fascism, and all the horrors it has led to. The Republican party makes Germany's National Socialists blush with shame at their humanitarianism. If only a fake Republican president had the political backing of their mentor, Hitler, they could have exterminated all life. Only the plaintive protests of enslaved citizenry have stayed the hand of the Republicans from carrying out the Final Solution.
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tecelote Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 06:06 AM
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6. Keep in mind, it is not the system, it's the people.
Corporations are not evil. Good people run good corporations. The system can work.

The problem is that our business and government leaders are generally morally and ethically corrupt.

We have the power to create change one dollar and one vote at a time.

Maybe, Americans will wake up in time.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 06:48 AM
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7. Well said
and a well earned rec.

I wish I could write this well.
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:27 AM
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8. My favorite (modified) bumper sticker: Practice random and senseless acts.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 11:34 AM
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9. Fireworks and trumpet fanfare!!!
This post must have been written in a great moment of clarity and lucidity. And should be engraved in stone. And placed on the White House lawn.

BRAVO!


Now that my cheering has subsided, I would like to add that Americans have fueled this nightmare. And we've painted ourselves into a difficult corner. Our ignorance (I dropped out when Reagan draped his blanked over our country.). Our consumption of corporate products, most important of which is petroleum.

I am now of the mind that the single most important and most patriotic act is renewable energy research and development. It's the biggest piece of the rug we can pull out from under them.



You post is highly impressive in it's comprehensive and distilled description of the overall picture of what cripples America.

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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 11:43 AM
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10. I once had a US History lecturer...
...who in one class, apropos of nothing, mused: "I just can't understand why anyone would ever believe a single word they hear in a commercial."

I thought that was very cool.
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