Should "Debushification" be made an issue in 2008?

[ck4829]

I don't believe in litmus tests for candidates, but I will be leaning for the candidate who will do the most dismantling of Bush Administration policies.

If we want to repair the US and it's image around the world, then our country will need some massive Debushification.

[madokie]

1. sure it should

there isn't anything that he and his crew of criminals have done that we want to keep, nothing.

[jimshoes]

2. And promise to rid this government

of every bushbot they can find. Even if it means turning over every rock in every government agency.

[pinto]

3. That's a good way to put it. Dismantling the (R), Bush policies are

paramount in my take. Across the board, they have bent the federal bureaucracy to a political agenda that has little to do with it's intended function.

It's not the primary role of the federal government agencies to re-elect Republicans. Spin as front man Bush might - 'doing the people's work' - that is exactly what has been going on.

Rove, Cheney and Bush may think this is justified - and they have recruited numerous young, incompetent partisans to further that purely political end - yet it's not.

[baldguy]

4. "I took an oath to the president and I take that oath very seriously."

Sara M Taylor, former Deputy Assistant to the President, refusing to answer questions before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

[RaleighNCDUer]

6. Yup. One of the scarier quotes to come out of this misadministration. nt

[NoodleBoy]

9. I'm pretty sure they take an oath to uphold the constitution, not to the president

[baldguy]

10. Yep. Nazis took a personal oath to Hitler, though.

Just what have they been doing in the White House?

[dollie300]

5. Absolutely!! All throughout government and the courts.

De-neoconification should also be made a issue but I doubt that the pol have the nerve to do it.

[Junkdrawer]

7. "DeOILfication"

Big Oil runs our foreign policy. Until that changes, we'll NEVER leave Iraq - or allow true democracy there.

[kenny blankenship]

8. Absolutely yes and thank you for bringing it up

I want every fucking scrap of paper ever produced by the Bush Administration immediately made public--unredacted--along with all the Presidential records of all past administrations which were scheduled for regular declassifcation that Bush prevented from becoming public domain soon after he seized office.

But how will we get our candidates to pledge to full de-Nazification of the government, if they won't even:

commit to repeal of the Patriot Act ?

repudiate the criminal invasion of Iraq under the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 ?

I don't know if it's possible to take this country back to the status quo ante before the Millennium Putsch, but I know things will continue to get worse if we don't make a conscious effort to try. That means "making a Federal case" of it. Undoing the damage to the structure of govt and the security of our civil liberties will be difficult in part because a powerful executive will naturally be reluctant to give up the accumulated powers and privileges.

What you don't want at this juncture is somebody who represents continuity with the past, someone with an interest in conserving the secrets of the past, someone on friendly terms with the powers that have ruled along with Bush, backed Bush in his campaigns, and have benefited monetarily during his usurpation.

[quinnox]

11. Hillary has often said she will reverse the bush damage

and that is one of the reasons she is running. She said this a few times in speeches on cpsan.

I'm not here to debate in this thread so I will just say this, I understand the "Hillary is the devil" some think, good for you, you all are free to believe anything, that is why America is great.

[Jack Bone]

12. "Debushification"..what a word!

what a concept!!

I love you man.... :loveya:

[EVDebs]

13. Yes, which pest control company, Clark or Orkin, should do the fumigating ? A big tent Capitol bldg

seems appropriate !

[Octafish]

14. Debushification for most of the Supreme Court and much of the Federal courts, too.

CHIMPEACH the Bushies.

[libnnc]

15. Not only that but make sure there are no

neo-con hold overs in any positions in the White House. And no new hires who have any ties to either AEI or the Heritage Foundation.

...and get rid of all those punk assed interns and lower level staffers from Liberty University, Regent and Patrick Henry College too.

Clean. House.

[yurbud]

16. this would have added benefit of forcing candidates to embrace or renounce Bush

if they renounce, they lose their base. If they embrace, they lose everyone else.

[Vincardog]

17. Yes every action of this illegal cabal has to be removed and repudiated.

[gordianot]

18. This is THE big issue behind the door.

There are literally trillions of dollars missing, department of justice is a raging joke, scandals, torture, phony war, probable treason (and possibly worse), malfeasance is everywhere. The scum is so thick I am becoming convinced the GOP cannot afford to leave or ever allow anyone else take over the Executive Branch. I am also convinced even with the usual election fraud the GOP will lose the executive branch. What to do with the scum is going to be a huge problem?

Bush can live in South America and KKKarl can be deported to Germany. Maybe we could ask South Africa for help they worked out of their mess very well.

At this moment I am not a forgiving person.

[mitchum]

19. Sure, as long as we don't use the US method of denazification...

and have these vermin wind up on the taxpayer's payroll.
There were other Allied approaches to denazification that I find far more preferable.

[Cobalt-60]

20. a million times yes

Everyone hired by the government since 2000 should be either immediately fired or assigned to debris clearance in New orleans.
Something like a backup file should be employed to restore the operation of the various departments savaged by Bush to their jan 2000 status.

[BlooInBloo]

21. It should be made LAW before then.

[Toasterlad]

22. OMG Yes.

Did the dickhead sign ANY laws that DON'T infringe on the rights of some or all of the citizens of the US, or serve to undermine the ecological balance of the planet, or advance the agendas of the rich at the expense of the rest? Is there a single law or act or resolution or policy enacted by this administration that DOESN'T need to be undone?

SOOOOOO much work to do.

[Canuckistanian]

23. You'd almost have to start over from scratch

So many things would need to be done. Reorganizing the broken military, purging the civil service of unqualified hacks, rebuilding the devastated DOJ, trying to patch together a working intelligence agency, rescuing FEMA from the ashes, etc., etc...

To say nothing about the economy.

That's a very long list and a massive job. In fact, Job #1 if the new administration hopes to achieve anything.

[mmonk]

24. Without an assertion of the constitution now,

it's all up to whomever is in charge then. Repairing the damage wil probably take 25 years. The courts are set for a very bad course for bad precedents as well. This country has literally been transformed into something else and reversing it in my estimation with any degree of certainty will take impeachment. Otherwise, we're looking at a crap shoot and depending on good will from those in power.

[mmonk]

25. Look at this constitution restoration pledge.

The Center for Constitutional Rights, Human Rights Watch and MoveOn.org have launched a vital campaign to put restoration of the Constitution on the agenda for Democratic presidential candidates -- just as the conservative American Freedom Agenda movement has done for Republican candidates.

-snip-

The pledge reads:

We are Americans, and in our America we do not torture, we do not imprison people without charge or legal recourse, allow our phones and emails to be tapped without a court order, and above all we do not give any President unchecked power. I pledge to fight to protect and defend the Constitution from assault by any President.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?bid=1&pid=217965

[gulliver]

26. Yes, by popular demand.

The little feller has done much to convincingly sell the opposite of everything he stands for. We don't need to go in thinking "anything but Bush," necessarily. But if we think "good for the country," it is going to end up being the same thing most of the time.

Supporting Bush is going to be an albatross for a lot of people for a very long time. The country paid a bundle for the "Bush lesson," though. Maybe too much. We should have known, "Never trust a ne'er-do-well moron son of an unpopular Nixon butt-kissing father." One would think we didn't need that principle demonstrated by painful example over eight long years. But hey, that's what happened.

[earthlover]

27. Bush is not running....

If Guilliani....we need to focus on deguillianification.

If Thompson....we need to focus on dethompsonification.

If McCain....we need to focus on demccainification.

If Republicans were trees, we would need to focus on deforestation.

We must not forget that Bush is going to be gone anyhow. And that the Republican candidate is going to try his darnedest to distance himself from Bush.

So we can't just campaign against Bush.

[ck4829]

29. The changes that Bush has made may stay with us for a long time

And how many people who are in the Bush Administration will play a role in the Republican nominee's potential Administration if he wins?

[tom_paine]

28. Unquestionably, but where will you find the person with the guts to mention it?

Answer: You will not find such a person anywhere near the levers of power or with a microphone, with perhaps the exception of Keith Olbermann.

[BornagainDUer]

30. "DebushNAziification" sounds better. Oops, sorry

didn't mean to be redundant.