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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:51 PM
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Turkey's about to invade Iraq. Imagine what kind of fit Bush is throwing right now.
Bush doesn't like it when it becomes exposed that other people are coming in to clean up his messes.

This is a good explanation as to why he rejected the Iraq Study Group in favor of what his PNAC friends said (Who have never been right about Iraq before BTW).

And now Turkey is planning to invade Iraq to stop terrorists from launching attacks into their country, ironic perhaps, because Bush says the Iraq War is preventing terrorist attacks.

Who else wants to make a prediction to what Bush is saying about Turkey massing troops on Iraq's northern border, about to clean up one giant mess called Iraq (A mess created by the Bush Administration)?
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:53 PM
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1. at this point he's prolly still got himself convinced that Turkey isn't going to invade
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:55 PM
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2. Just to probably suggest the obvious, but if Bush personally intervened
to persuade Turkey to cease hostilities, should tensions reach the flashpoint, I wonder if anyone would even return his call.

My guess is that when Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton made similar gestures, they got their phone calls returned and some dipomatic dividend as well.

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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:55 PM
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3. He's still busy trying to find Turkey on the map...
and when he does he's going to be crying for Jesus and the dark lord cheney to save his dumbass.....:scared:
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:56 PM
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4. Are the Turks threatening any oil fields?
If not, Bushco probly doesn't give a shit.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:56 PM
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5. Iran Promotes US War with Turkey
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:57 PM
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6. Whatever speech he might make over it if it happens
I'll bet terror, freedom, and Al Qaeda are in every other sentence.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:58 PM
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7. Bush43*: "But I pardoned Turkey last November!! Ingrates!"
:dunce: :silly:
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:59 PM
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8. Somebody has to do this. Might as well be me.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 09:05 PM
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11. GMTA ... one minute apart
:rofl:
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:59 PM
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9. Turkey told you tit is going to invade??????? now you've told the whole world! nt
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 09:01 PM
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10. The Turks & Kurds don't like each other?


Wow .... who could have seen this coming .... kinda like the Shi ites and Sunni
have issues?

How many Turkish soldiers on the border?
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 09:06 PM
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13. Last reports say 200,000 troops
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 09:08 PM
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14. and we can do nothing ...
... Maybe if we sent Condi ..... :rofl:
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 09:16 PM
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16. 10 divisions
or about 140,000.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 09:05 PM
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12. I'm interested in what roll Iran will play in this mess
If I'm not mistaken, they are at risk with their own ethnic minorities (Kurds) in Iran.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 09:10 PM
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15. So it follows that because Turkey
has amassed troops on the Iraq border that they will indeed "clean up bush's mess"?

It would be nice..I never thought of that as a possibility?
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 09:17 PM
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17. That's because it is insane
And you are probably quite sane.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 09:27 PM
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19. It's debatable!
kidding! I've come a long way since my insane youth :)
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 09:42 AM
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30. That makes two of us! nt
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 09:25 PM
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18. Bush has to hate the idea that Turkey
would launch a strike against REAL terrorists operating out of Northern Iraq.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 09:29 PM
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20. Pulease! bush has no fucking clue where the fuck Turkey is!
:eyes:
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 09:37 PM
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21.  Turkey steps back from Iraq invasion after poll
http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article2795638.ece
Turkey steps back from Iraq invasion after poll
By Nicholas Birch in Istanbul
Published: 24 July 2007

As Turkey's government savoured an overwhelming electoral victory yesterday, regional analysts agreed that the immediate impetus for an invasion of northern Iraq had receded.

Sunday's clear mandate for the Islamic-rooted AKP of the Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has been received as a snub to his secularist and nationalist opponents, who put the fight against Kurdish separatist guerrillas across the border at the centre of their failed campaign.

Orhan Miroglu, one of the Kurdish politicians elected to parliament, said the veiled threat of military intervention and a massive military build-up in Turkey's south-east had failed to attract votes.

"Sunday's results are a victory for common sense and civilian democracy over a politics of nationalism and foreign intervention," he said in a telephone interview from the southern port city of Mersin.

With more than 100,000 troops on the border, Turkey's military has been talking about the strategic value of Iraqi operations for months. But it needs parliamentary permission to cross into Iraq. Mr Miroglu, one of 24 deputies to be elected from Turkey's Kurdish nationalist party, says he will oppose an invasion. "We've had enough war," he says.

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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 10:39 PM
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22. * probably will be happy if they invade.
Edited on Sun Jul-29-07 10:39 PM by roamer65
Iraq is destined to divide into 3 parts anyway, so I'm sure * will think 1/3 of the problem has been "gotten rid of". If Turkey invades northern Iraq, we won't do a damn thing about it.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 10:42 PM
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23. Heck, he WANTS *somebody* to carry on perpetual war with!!1 n/t
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 10:47 PM
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24. He still believes Turkey is made of plastic.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 10:52 PM
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25. If Turkey is having unwelcome visitors from Iraq, then it
is their right to take action against it. And if they do, what the hell is the shrub gonna do about it?

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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 11:16 PM
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27. Shrub's got a problem if Turkey invades Iraqi Kurdistan.
The Kurds are our friends in Iraq, and their soldiers in the Iraqi army tend to do our bidding.

If Turkey invades, those guys will move north in a hurry and will expect us to support them since they've supported us. It may not matter to the Kurds that the "terrorists" are PKK (Kurdish People's Party) extremists. It will matter that the Turkish army is in their territory.

And by the way, the Kurds are trying to absorb Kirkuk and its oil fields. They claim that Kirkuk is their historical territory that was "diversified" by Saddam Hussein. They have a point. If we don't side with them, then they might not sell us any oil. Capeche?

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katamaran Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 11:10 PM
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26. Yeah, but the religious party in Turkey just won big in elections
Could be a whole new ballgame with Turkey.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 11:20 PM
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28. Not according to one of my Turkish roommate's friends.
According to him, the religious party actually like the U.S. and Europe much more than the secular party. The secular party thinks that the West is nasty and can't be trusted. Essentially, they're mad about the breakup of the Ottoman Empire after Turkey sided with German in WWI and lost. The Islamic party seems to be more pragmatic and wants to become a member of the EU.

Either party will threaten to kick us out of Incirlik AFB and shut down the Iraqi border through which we supply northern Iraq if the Armenian Genocide resolution makes it through Congress, though. Roommate was incredibly upset by the fact that it had been introduced. She thinks that the Armenians died of exposure and that the Turks had nothing to do with it.
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 02:09 AM
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29. Not an expert on what happened to the Armenians, but...
a lot of historians would agree that there was genocide.

Can anyone shed light on this? I know it's a bit OT, but I am curious.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 09:54 AM
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31. Bush reads/hears "Turkeys about to invade Iraq"
so he's not concerned. I mean, they're just big birds.
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