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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 08:31 AM
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BIG MISTAKE: HILLARY HAS NOT RETURNED TAINTED $$ FROM TAN FAMILY (CNMI FORCED LABOR)!!


This is truly shocking! This is either a prime campaign fuck-up or Hillary thinks she can keep tainted Abramoff money from the wicked Tan Family, the infamous sex slavers and forced abortionists of the Northern Marianas Islands!!

What kind of person is she?!?!

Who the fuck does she think she is anyway?!?!

Please recommend the HOLY HELL out of this thread, I am pissed!

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/7/30/22910/9939

Friends of Hillary PAC received and has never returned:

KIM LAM, PEK, Homemaker; 9/30/2005; $2,000
TAN, JOISE, N/A/Homemaker; 10/2/2005; $2,000
TAN, RAYMOND, Luen Thai/President; 9/30/2005; $2,000
TAN, SIU L, Tan Holdings Corp./Chairman; 9/30/2005; $2,000
TAN, WILLIE, Luen Thai/COO; 9/30/2005; $2,000

If you like Hillary, call or email her campaign and tell them to return the TAN $$ ASAP before its too late. Obama and Edwards will no doubt soon bring this up! Dengre at KOS thinks this is a setup and imagines the WaPo story that will be published once she is the nominee:

Clinton Donations tied to Abramoff, Sweatshops and China

Owners of a Chinese Corporation tied to a $9 million dollar fine for operating sweatshops on a US Territory and the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal, have donated $10,000 to Hillary Clinton's run for the White House.

For more than twenty years Willie Tan and his family have been associated with sweatshops, labor abuse and corruption on the Commonwealth of the Northern Marianas Islands, a US Territory in the Western Pacific just north of Guam. Abramoff successfully lobbied Congress to block reforms to the Marianas Islands, including an increase in the minimum wage.

Mr. Tan and his father, Tan Siu Lin signed a consent decree fifteen years ago for the largest fine in US Labor Department history. In late 2005 they each donated $2,000 to Senator Clinton. Three other Tan Family members donated $2,000 each to the Senator. One was, Raymond Tan, who is listed as a Chinese National on papers filed for a Hong Kong stock exchange IPO.

For most of the last fifteen years the Tan Family have been supporters of the Republican Party through their association with lobbyist Jack Abramoff and former Majority Leader, Tom DeLay. The one notable exception came in 1995 when companies tied to the Tan Family donated $17,500 to the DNC while then First Lady Clinton was at a fund raiser on Guam.

These donations put Senator Clinton at odds with two key groups in the Democratic base, labor and women, while connecting her to the Jack Abramoff scandal and the Culture of Corruption in Washington.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/7/30/22910/9939
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 08:34 AM
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1. added to the long list
of why there is no way i'll vote for her - even if she is the nominee.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 08:35 AM
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2. Return the money? And embarrass her corporate donors?
Not a chance.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 08:38 AM
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3. One fuck-up after another.
She really is on a roll, isn't she?
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 08:40 AM
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4. Goodness -- after Obama accepting all that money from a mobster
we now have Hillary accepting money from some "tainted" source. Oh horrors, oh gee whiz on golly....If Obama gives it ALL back will Hillary.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 09:14 AM
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9. Link on Obama-mobster story? This was debunked!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 12:28 PM
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13. What does her actions have to do with Obama's?
And you should look up Tan...it's more than just "tainted".
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 08:40 AM
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5. Add this to the list: THIS CAMPAIGN IS TOO LONG.
If this is the kind of thing that can get you frothing at the mouth, you need to turn off the computer, go to your local bookstore, buy a copy of the new Harry Potter book, and your next DU post should be a book review.

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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 09:03 AM
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7. I did a lot of work in '06 on CNMI, that's why I'm pissed.
Here is one of the things I dug up. The crazy thing is it was Bill who fought to end the CNMI abuse and now she refuses to return money from the Tans themselves. Hopefully this is a campaign screwup.

Statement of Female Minor
Before the Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources Hearing on the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands
March 31, 1998

When I came to Saipan in 1995, 1 was 14. My passport said I was 21 and I was a tourist. My boss told me in the Philippines that I would be a dancer but not naked. The first day he forced us to dance naked. He said don't tell your age or that you are a tourist. I was shocked. He said if you don't follow me, the door is open. Buy your own ticket and pay back the $1,000 promotion fee. I had no choice. I had no money. I was so scared. I'm so young, I don't know what's going on.

I thought laws in America protect workers and treat people with respect. I thought I would make good money to send home to my family. But I was treated like an animal. Life was really hell in Saipan. I couldn't believe America would let bosses take away my childhood. I should have been in school, not working there naked. I was ashamed. I still have friends there who are suffering like I suffered. I'm not the only one. Many workers are in bad condition. I don't want this to happen to anybody else like happened to me.

When I started my job, I didn't want to take my clothes off. My boss was swearing at me. I was just crying. I took my clothes off and he made me do splits. It really hurt me. He said he would teach me to dance. He wanted me to be a star because I'm younger than everybody. What could I do? I learned how to use cough medicine so I don't know what I'm doing. When I learned how to drink, I'm always drunk and they took advantage of me. They put their fingers inside me but I can't do anything about it. My boss said the customer is always right. One customer bit my nipple so hard that I just slapped him. One time a customer punched me on my bare stomach. They try to push sex on me in front of everybody on stage. The customers at the bar were everybody, like local people. Some customers are crazy. My boss told me to light a cigarette from my mouth and put it in my vagina. He was so mad at me because I would not spread my legs. So many times I burned my legs. The customers would come up and light their cigarettes between my legs. I had to put my mouth on their private parts and sometimes they came inside me. Sometimes my boss told us girls to have sex together so the customers wouldn't get bored. They took videos of me many times on the stage doing "shower shows" and "cigarette shows" for commercials and to put in magazines.

My body hurt. My heart hurt. I cried a lot and I was scared. But I had no choice. I had no money to buy a ticket to go home. What could I do? When my boss said he was sending me to Hong Kong, I was really scared. My friend went there and they made her a prostitute.

Three years later I am still trying to get justice for what happened to me and the other girls. But nothing has changed. What happened to me was against the law. New laws can help other girls. It's too late for me.

I was born in Manila on June 9, 1981. My parents were squatters and they fought a lot. I quit school and ran away when I was 12.1 looked for a job. I met Kate Zamora and she got me a job in the Pambuli Club as a G.R.O. That means a guest reception officer. When I danced in Manila I gave my mother money. She knew where I worked and sometimes visited. Then the money became less and less.

The first time I met Kate's father, Eugene Zamora, he took videos and pictures of me in the club. It was my first time to dance naked. I didn't have any hair between my legs because I was young. I was ashamed and I didn't want to take off my clothes. His daughter started swearing at me and I was afraid so I did it. The first English words I learned were swear words.

The Zamoras asked me if I wanted to work in Saipan, America. They said I would make a lot of money because I was still young. They said I wouldn't have to pay anything, even board and lodging or promotion fees. They said I wouldn't have to dance without clothes. They were all lies.

My passport had lies too. It said I was born in 1974 and that I was going to Saipan to be a tourist. I told the Zamoras but they said not to worry because they faked the passport. There were five girls who went together. We got to Saipan on Nov. 14, 1995. When we first came we lived in the Club Kalesa, where we worked. We stayed there one month or more and we slept on the stage and sometimes on the chairs. Then we moved to the barracks. We couldn't leave the barracks unless we had to buy clothes or something like that. The guards from the bar had to go with us. After the bar closed they would check our beds and make sure the rooms were locked. There were rules on the wall ~ no noise, no gossiping, no visitors. It was like a prison.

I was supposed to get $4 an hour for dancing naked and doing special shows. But I never got that much. My bosses took out $50 for promotion fees, $50 for talent manager, $50 for board and lodging and more from every pay. They never really explained how much I was really earning per hour and how many hours I was working. After a few months they always paid us late. We had to work six days a week and sometimes they made me work on my day off too. That wasn't right. They didn't pay me for that day, only tips from "ladies drinks" that customers bought us. They kept our pay two times for a deposit for emergency funds. But when I asked for the fund because my dad was sick, they only gave me $50. What can I buy with $50? Not even medicine.

On Jan. 8, 1996, the Zamoras took us to Palau for one day so we could get entry permits to Saipan. My permit was for waitress, but they pushed me to dance.

In Saipan they taught girls to be prostitutes in Hong Kong. My friend worked at Club Kalesa. They sent her to Hong Kong in 1996 when she was 18. She told me she was in Saipan about three years already. She was 15 when she got to Saipan. In March 1996 my boss told me he was getting papers for me to go to Hong Kong. He told me when my visa arrived and ticket, I would just have to go. There would be no question, I would have to fly out.

In late October I went to the Philippine Consul General and later the Saipan Labor Department to complain. I told them I was only a minor and I came on a tourist visa. I told them I had to dance naked even if my permit was for a waitress. The U.S. Department of Labor filed a civil case for me and the U.S. Department of Justice filed a criminal case. What happened to me was a crime. It is illegal. The Philippine Consul General and Filipino groups helped take me to the United States because my life was in danger. My life was threatened and my family too. People said if I didn't drop the case someone was going to set up my mom like she was a drug dealer, and my dad too.

Today I live in the United States in the foster care program and I am 16.1 have a good job and a home tutor. Many Americans have helped me and I thank them and the U.S. government for giving me a second chance in my life. But the other workers in Saipan won't get this chance. That is why it is important for me to speak for them.

Please change the laws to help the other girls and workers. Please change the laws to make bad bosses go to jail and have a lesson. That is the only way to change the CNMI. Otherwise human beings will still be treated like animals. Young girls like me will still dance naked in bars instead of go to school. They will still learn to be prostitutes. They will have no childhood.

Please give me and the others justice. Everybody is expecting justice from you because we have been waiting too long.

Thank you.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/20/92442/9536

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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 08:46 AM
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6. Why??
I am fine with the gracious donations . Tell me when will bush & cheney account for the billions they stole from Americans with this faux war, the no-bid contracts for Halburtton etc????
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Zueda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 09:03 AM
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8. The "No-Bid" Contracts weren't needed during the Clinton years.
Edited on Mon Jul-30-07 09:04 AM by Zueda
Back during the Clinton administration there was a contract bid that Halliburton had lost. Clinton intervened and awarded it to Halliburton anyway.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 11:51 AM
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10. You don't know the Tans obviously
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 12:29 PM
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14. Do a search on Tan,Delay,Abramhoff.
Tell us what you think of Mr. Tan.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 11:59 AM
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11. What kind of person is she? DLC!
:puke:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 12:02 PM
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12. Will the M$M play this non-stop?
They so love beating up on Dems and giving Reps a free pass. So she knowingly/unknowingly took sex-slave money and won't give it back - do I have that about right?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 12:30 PM
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15. She may be unaware of it.
Now that it's out there we'll see how she deals with it.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 01:01 PM
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17. Dengre thinks she is being set up
so the MSM won't reveal it until after she has the nomination sewn up.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 01:05 PM
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18. I don't think it really hurts her with the general populace.
When they reveal it 99% of people will be,"Tan who?"

We know of it here because we're political junkies. :)
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 09:03 PM
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19. I don't think they will cover it.
I think they want her to get the nomination so the Republicans can nominate a tv and movie star for the American people to vote in. I have a ex- friend that said he liked Thompson and would vote the first time in his 34yo life for him because " Fred Thompson is a tough guy, don't you see how every role he plays, hes the same tough guy? Thats just who he is!". I replied " I guess you have never heard the term type casting? You might want to research what he supports politically ". He is one of the Americans that grew up very fortunate, is way overpaid for what he does and thinks the country is fair for all. If your poor, its your fault because your lazy and such! Note, hes and EX friend!
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 12:39 PM
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16. Funny, she demanded that Obama return David Geffens Contributions
and she wanted him to denounce Geffens' remarks. Now she won't return the Tan money?

Wow

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