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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 08:45 AM
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Gas-station owners' profits hinge on thirsty customers
Gas-station owners' profits hinge on thirsty customers

Convenience-store owner David Malik earns about as much on a can of Coke as he does on a typical 10-gallon purchase of gas.

Malik's gross profit on gasoline is roughly 3 cents a gallon after paying for supplies and credit-card fees, but he earns 30 cents on the soft drink.

And when trouble in a faraway oil-producing nation spikes energy prices, his profits here are squeezed even more.

"When oil-company profits go up, my profits go down," said Malik, 51, who lives in Bellevue and owns seven gas stations in South King County under different major brands.


The story continues at http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2003812418_gasretailers30.html
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 08:49 AM
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1. Incredible, but true...
There was a gas station here in suburban Milwaukee that stopped selling gas the last time the prices shot up (the guy's also a mechanic, so he has another source of income). But after the credit card fees, we was actually losing money on gas sales, so he stopped. I have no doubt that the reason every gas station in the U.S. is now a Quik-E Mart is that the food revenues are larger that the gas revenues.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:04 AM
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11. My husband has a friend that owned a number of gas stations and he
lost all of his stations due to this fact. I think that the big oil companies have intentionally tried to squeeze the independent owners out of the business.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 11:46 AM
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14. That being said...
It doesn't stop me from giving the station attendants good-natured crap when I stop in. I go to the same place all the time and know all the employees. And they know me well enough to not take any of it seriously.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 08:52 AM
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2. The gas station near me
was a combination repair shop/gas station. They recently stopped selling gas. It wasn't worth their while in respect to profits.
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_testify_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 08:52 AM
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3. I believe it
I am lucky enough to live within a half-mile of my office, so we only fill up maybe 3 times a month. But I still stop at the gas station every day for coffee, breakfast bars, etc. And judging by how the coffee pots are consistently empty, I'm not the only one. It's almost like the gas is an afterthought.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 08:57 AM
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5. If you live only half a mile from your office, why do you drive?
I would think you could walk that far, even in a suit and dress shoes, faster than it would take to drive. Healthier for you, healthier for the environment.
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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 09:14 AM
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6. Sometimes it's a matter of safety
I live a few blocks from work and I don't leave work until dark. Downtown it's not safe for a lone female to be walking home alone. It's sad but such are the times we live in today.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 09:19 AM
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8. Ah, ok
Yours is not the typical situation, then. My bad. :hi:
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 09:23 AM
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9. He lives in Tampa, Techie. I am south of him. Walking 100 yards this time of year means you are
soaked! The humidity is unbelievable in the Summer months in Florida. Not to mention, you could walk outside and see blue skies and ten minutes later it could be raining on you.

I live about 4.5 miles from my office and am considering buying a Segway but even with that, i could really only ride it to work in the fall and winter months. In the Summer, if it doesn't rain in the morning, it is usually raining by 5:00 PM.

A half mile doesn't sound far at all but when it is 90 degrees and 85% humidity at 8:00 in the morning, I don't know about you, but i need AC!
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_testify_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 11:38 AM
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13. I didn't even take the heat into account.
I used to work even closer to another job I had and I did walk to that one, but I'd have to bring a change of clothes with me because I would be soaked by the time I got there!

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_testify_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 11:36 AM
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12. 3 people in my home all work in the same office
We carpool.

It's also suburban Tampa, so there's no sidewalks to walk on.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 08:52 AM
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4. Yep. The gas pumps are there to get people to stop, not to turn a profit for convenience stores.
I've worked my share of convenience stores. Speaking of, most people suck as gas customers without seeming to realize it or feeling justified in doing so for some reason.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 09:15 AM
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7. Nothing new. I managed some convenience stores in the '80s
and we always took a loss on gas sales. Gas was just to draw the customers in for the high-profit items.
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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 09:27 AM
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10. Cigarettes are HUGE sales!
Back when i was a attendant (before I was robbed and had to quit due to lack of support by my company) We did MAJOR money in cigarettes. Gross it wasn't as much as the fuel of course (this was waaaaayyy back when gas was 1.49 on a bad day) and lotto.

Granted we were a one trick pony store. Gas and cigs, that's pretty much it. the Station was owned by the refinery (Rotten Robbies is a chain in California) but I'd guess it was the cigs that kept us in business half the time, especially since the gas hikes and people are right pissed about gas costs.

After I left, as i understand, they decided to make the office smaller, and open it up as more of a mini convenience store. I imagine the 7-11 not 50 feet from the door was raking in better profits, as they are just a 7-11, with no fuel overhead.

But yeah, even with smoking at an all time low in California, It is still massive business.
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