Olbermann just made a mistake

[MonkeyFunk]

Regarding Ingmar Bergman, he said "inexplicably, only 1982's Fanny & Alexander was even nominated as Best Foreign Film for the Oscars".

Bergman won 3 foreign film Oscars: Fanny & Alexander, The Virgin Spring, and Through a Glass Darkly.

And Fanny & Alexander was 1984, not 1982.

[cynatnite]

1. Off with his head!

Just kidding :)

I was thinking Bergman had won more than just one when I was listening.

[Nikki Stone1]

2. Time for an email. Silly mistakes like this chip away at his credibility

And we need him, dammit.

(Could he not use Google?)

[DemBones DemBones]

5. His staff screwed up. But he needs to correct it. nt

[MonkeyFunk]

7. I sent a very nice email

to him.

[DemBones DemBones]

18. It pays to be nice, the people who check the e-mail

will appreciate it, and not delete your message!

[dorkulon]

8. That's a bit much, but I'm sure he'll issue a correction. /nt

[tiptoe]

3. "Worse -- but not Worser or Worst -- Person In the World!"

;)

[seemslikeadream]

4. I'm sure O'liely will be on it

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

10. You know, O'Liely becoming indignant because KO dissed Ingmar Bergman might be

be worthy of a view, perchance. MKJ

[LiberalHeart]

38. Yeah -- he'll list all of Ingrid Bergman's awards.

[Kingshakabobo]

6. NEVER take sides against the family again!

Sorry, The Godfather marathon was on AMC all weekend.

[EFerrari]

13. I watched it, too.

Just this one time, you can ask me about Bergman. :)

[Jack from Charlotte]

33. Bergman was a pimp............

He never could've out-fought Santino. But I didn't know until this day that it was Barzini all along.

[EFerrari]

40. DUer marnieworld nicknamed Bush "President Fredo"

lol

[Jack from Charlotte]

42. "Fredo, you're my older brother,...............

and I love you. But don't ever take sides with anyone against the family again. Ever."

[EFerrari]

43. "I'm smart. Not dumb like people say, but smart!"

Can't you just see Junior saying the same thing? :rofl:

[MADem]

9. Did he win BEST in all of them? Or were some for costumes, or directing, or

something else?

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

11. Tried to enter IMDB's address, didn't work. I"ll try again.

MKJ

[NYCGirl]

12. There is only one category for "Foreign Film", BEST Foreign Film. NT

[MADem]

36. Yeah, but foreign films are entered in OTHER categories, like Director, Actor, and so forth

Remember LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL with Robert Begnini???
http://www.amazon.com/Life-Beautiful-Claudio-Alfonsi/dp/6305426651
An international sensation and the most successful foreign language film in U.S. history, the picture also earned director-cowriter-star Benigni Oscars for Best Foreign Language Film and Best Actor.......An inspired motion picture masterpiece, LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL was nominated for 7 Academy Awards(R) -- winning 3 Oscars, including one for Best Actor Robert Benigni.

[MonkeyFunk]

14. no

foreign film is own entire category.

But he was also nominated 5 times for original screenplay, once for Best Picture, and 3 times for Best Director.

So he wasn't exactly snubbed by the academy.

[MADem]

37. Yes, it is, but my point was that foreign films can win in other categories, too

Like the example I posted elsewhere--Roberto Beginini in LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL--Seven nominations, three Oscars, including Best Foreign Film and Best Actor. And the examples you posted too.

They aren't always shuttled off to their own category exclusively.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

I heard this morning he won three bests for foreign films.

MKJ

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

17. IMBD Is Fine. KO Was Talking About Oscars.

There are other award shows that do best foreign film as well. (2 Golden Globes)

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

20. Back there I go, thanks.

:-) MKJ

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

25. Actually My Bad. I Shoulda Kept Scrolling Down LOL

He did win 3 oscars. IMDB has them all.

[MonkeyFunk]

21. Yes

and Bergman won three Oscars for Best Foreign Film, and was nominated 9 times in other categories.

[Buzz Clik]

22. That is correct. See post #19 below.

[MADem]

39. Ah, thanks! nt

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

15. Fanny and Alexander was not 1984 either. It was for the 1983 Foreign Language Film.

http://www.aboutfilm.com/awards/1983.htm


The film itself was made in 1982 but released in the US in 1983.

It was a phenomenal film!

[MonkeyFunk]

23. yes

it was a fantastic film.

It won the oscar in '84, but was an '83 film in the US.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

29. But officially it was the Oscar for 1983. eom

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

16. Well, It Was 1982.

But on edit, it appears you were right and that he had won 3 Oscars. My bad for not scrolling down further.

[Buzz Clik]

19. Hm.

• 1960 The Virgin Spring (Jungfrukällan) (Sweden) - Svensk Filmindustri - Ingmar Bergman, Allan Ekelund producers - Ingmar Bergman director Kapo (Kapò) (Italy) - Cineriz, Francinex, Vides, Zebra Films - Moris Ergas producer - Gillo Pontecorvo director
  
• 1961 Through a Glass Darkly - (Såsom i en spegel) (Sweden) - Svensk Filmindustri - Allan Ekelund producer - Ingmar Bergman director Harry and the Butler (Harry og kammertjeneren)(Denmark) - production company - Bent Christensen, Preben Philipsen producers - Bent Christensen director
  
• (r. 1983, c. 1984): Fanny and Alexander (Fanny och Alexander) by Ingmar Bergman • Sweden


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award_for_Best_Foreign_Language_Film


Mistakes happen. This one is a not a big deal.

[MonkeyFunk]

24. Look it up

Bergman won three Best Foreign Film oscars - I listed them in my OP.

And while the movie was made in '82, it won the Oscar in '84, which is the convention used when referring to oscar winners. But I'll give you that one.

The virgin spring: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053976/awards
Through a Glass Darkly: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055499/awards

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

26. Yup. You Were Half Right.

Definitely right about the 3 oscars, but still wrong about the year. The way KO said it, 1982's Fanny and Alexander, was actually perfectly appropriate in this context. So I'll give you half credit LOL

I am surprised he got the facts wrong like that though. That's kinda weird.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

32. Wikipedia isn't always right. It is the official winner for 1983.

The ceremony was in 1984.

[TomClash]

27. His best film was still the Seventh Seal nt

[frazzled]

28. True, but does it matter what Oscar thinks?

What an American-centric statement anyway--to eulogize Bergman based on the number of Oscars he won. As if his cinematic importance were measured by that low standard. Bergman was recognized all over the world, at Cannes and in Venice, in the pages of Cahiers du Cinema, in books and articles.

Back in the early days, an Oscar for Best Foreign FIlm may have meant something (not just Bergman, but DeSica, Kurosawa, Fellini were winners for enduring films). For some years now, submissions are made by the countries themselves, and it is rare that the best films are put forward. Have we seen a best foreign film Oscar awarded to a Kiarostami, a von Trier, a Sokurov or a Tarkovski? Godard never won one. Fassbinder never won one. It doesn't make them lesser directors, and whether Bergman won one or three, it was not what was important about his career.

The American imprimatur on world culture means squat.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

30. You know, we do have Scorsese and Allan and, um, Stone and, Eastwood,

and,

Hitchcock, no wait, nevermind.

Spielberg? Lucas? MKJ

[zauberflote]

31. Oscars not the best

While the three Oscar winners are worthy, they say more about Bergman's status as a filmmaker for Americans in those years than they do about the inherent quality of the movies. Sawdust and Tinsel, Smiles of a Summer Night, Seventh Seal, Wild Strawberries, Persona, Shame, maybe The Silence, those are the pinnacles.
Cries and Whispers isn't bad either.
Ang Lee does a nice introduction for the Virgin Spring Criterion release.
And I forgive Keith.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

34. I also loved his mini-series. Scene From A Marriage. Seventh Seal and Wild Strawberries are

my favorites.

[zauberflote]

35. I forgot

Scenes from a Marriage.
Nice peak.

[leftofthedial]

41. miserable bastard

I always hated him

please keep us posted on any more sins against nature he commits