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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:30 PM
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I'd really, really like to "believe" in Arlen Specter
but two things (among others, but these two reflect my strongest misgivings about him):

Ira Einhorn

JFK "Magic Bullet" theory
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:33 PM
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1. He's one of these 'look over here, there's nothing to see over
there' kinda people. He's a fascist re-pubic-rat. What do you expect?:dem:
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:48 PM
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7. Yes he is, and he's also very talented with...
...the political/legal slight-of-hand -- that's why the Neocons have him front and center.

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:34 PM
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2. I don't trust him as far as I can throw him! A repuke is a repuke is a repuke. Any
time they open their mouths, they're LYING. Specter is LYING. He's worked out a plot with the WH, IMCPO.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 10:02 AM
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15. what a snake this guy is, you can tell he is being played for a fool
by the * cabal.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:35 PM
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3. I'd like to believe in fairies and UFO's, too
But they'll never call for a special prosecutor, either.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:37 PM
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4. That's very sweet . . .
The kind of child-like quality I so love in you. :loveya:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:42 PM
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6. I'm trying to figure out if you're pulling my leg, er, tail,
or what :)

:hi:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:48 PM
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8. Meow!
The Founder and Head Master of the Arlen Specter School of Political Grandstanding is definitely not to be trusted.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:38 PM
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5. Yes, and I'd really, really like to believe in Santa Claus, too.
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 10:50 PM
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9. Add to your list

...the Hill-Thomas Hearings.

Cheers
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Thirtieschild Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 11:19 PM
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10. I cannot, absolutely cannot forget Anita Hill
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 11:26 PM
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11. Me neither. And that's why I will never like Joe Biden.
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 12:04 AM
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12. Same here

I will never, ever get past that hearing.

Cheers
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 09:41 AM
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13. can you guys give me some "particulars"?
I suppose I could Google, but I'd like to hear why you're so disgusted with them.
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 11:35 AM
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17. Here are some links and blurbs

...however to truly experience the Hill-Thomas Hearings you really had to see and hear them. I's also like to add that Illinois Senator Alan Dixon voted to confirm Thomas which resulted in angry women storming his office....I'm proud to say that I was one of them, with my grandmother and my 2 year-old daughter. As a result of his vote, he lost the next election to Mosley-Braun, paving the way for women in the Senate. In fact, a record number of women were elected in '92 as a result of this hearing.

Cheers

http://www.las.iastate.edu/kiosk/3254.shtml
<<Few will forget how members of the Senate committee treated Hill in hearings televised before the entire world. Sen. Arlen Spector accused her of perjury. Sen. Alan Simpson threatened her with "real harassment, different from the sexual kind, just plain old Washington variety harassment, which is pretty unique in itself.">>


http://faculty.uml.edu/sgallagher/ThomasHill1.htm


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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 12:00 PM
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20. you're a doll
thanks :hi:
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 11:49 AM
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18. I think that Biden said that Anita Hill's positive lie detector test was irrelevant
and he said that evidence of Clarence Thomas' addiction to pornography (adult video store rental records and evidence of pornographic photos plastering the walls of his home) was also irrelevant. But I think the worst part of it was Biden's refusal to call witness Angela Wright. Angela Wright was another woman who had an even more powerful story to tell about several acts of sexual harrassment against her by her boss Clarence Thomas, who even asked her for her breast size. Biden's office asked Wright to not show up for her subpoena as he didn't intend to call her. Biden and the bunch didn't have the political courage to withdraw the subpoena themselves. At least, that's how I think the story goes.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 12:00 PM
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19. and wasn't there even one or more *other*witnesses beside Wright who were prepared to give strongly
corroborating testimony in support of Hill, but Biden refused to call them to the stand as well?

Biden grossly mishandled those hearings.
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 12:52 PM
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22. Right

...Angela Wright was never called, IIRC there were other witnesses also who were never called.

Cheers
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 09:51 AM
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14. I would like to believe in him also, but doubt him until I see action
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 10:07 AM
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16. there's a pattern with Specter
I've discounted his recent approach with Gonzales. I'm expecting at a crucial moment he will step in and save him, then point to his previous strong statements as proof of his credibility.

then it will be "even Arlen Specter thinks Gonzales is vindicated."
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 12:03 PM
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21. Thus, his classified briefing on "the program" with a letter from the WH
addressed only to him, not Chairman Leahy. Voila!
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