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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 05:52 PM
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'Noose tree' cut down at Jena High School
Source: Abbey Brown - The Shreveport Times

JENA — A Some say it will provide a clean slate, a new beginning. Others say it will solve nothing.

Regardless of what people are saying, the tree where two nooses were found hanging nearly a year ago on the campus of Jena High School is gone.

Some in the community have said those nooses and that tree were what spawned a number of interracial fights — one ending with six black teens charged with attempted murder and a white teen unconscious and treated for injuries.

"A clean slate," LaSalle Parish School Board member Billy Fowler said of why the tree was cut down in the past few weeks. "There's nothing positive about that old tree. It's all negative. And I'm serving on the new School Board, and we're wanting to start fresh on some things."



Read more: http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070731/NEWS01/707310334/1060/NEWS01



Here's a snip from an earlier article about the racial strife at Jena High School:

The story of the Jena Six began on September 1, 2006 -- a hot late summer day, in the southern town of Jena, Louisiana. Bryant Purvis, a Black high school student, asked permission to sit beneath the shade tree known as the “white tree,” in front of the town’s high school. It was unspoken law that this shady area was for whites only during school breaks. The vice principal said nothing was stopping anyone. So Black students sat underneath the tree, challenging the established authority of segregation and racism.

The next day, hanging from the tree, were three ropes, in school colors, each tied to make a noose. The events set in motion by those nooses led to a schoolyard fight. And that fight led to the conviction, on June 28, 2007, of a Black student at Jena High School for charges that can bring up to 22 years in prison. Mychal Bell, a 16-year-old sophomore football star at the time he was arrested, was convicted by an all-white jury, without a single witness being called on his behalf. The remaining five Black students still face serious charges stemming from the fight, their lawyers and parents estimate they will go to trial this fall.

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/07/16/18435774.php
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Help me help Earth Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 05:55 PM
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1. The solve racial problems by killing a tree?
Dumb.
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 06:05 PM
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3. Without that tree, where else would they have hung the nooses?

If they are stuipid enough to have an area for "whites only" then cutting down the tree makes perfect sense to them, I'm sure.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 06:09 PM
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4. Really dumb. nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 05:56 PM
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 06:17 PM
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6. Uh, ok
I didn't know that Mass. was famous for not having racial incidents........
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 09:26 PM
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18. This was in Louisiana.. Shreveport paper
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 09:57 PM
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22. His response was perfect...
considering the crap that he was responding to.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 10:00 PM
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23. Oh I missed the previous comment before it was pulled....
Thanks!
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 06:14 PM
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5. I knew it...it was the tree's fault
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justjones Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 06:39 PM
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7. IOW: We would rather cut down the damn tree than allow black students....
to sit under it.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 07:19 PM
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9. THAT is exactly what I thought.
As if the absent tree will somehow calm racial tensions in this town.

:(
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 07:17 PM
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8. Illogical, it's not the tree's fault
why should it be "murdered" cause of a bunch of F'ing racists!!! If it took the police that area should be made available to ALL students to sit under anytime they want!
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 07:23 PM
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11. Law enforcement in Jena is part of the problem.
You know, though, it's akin to removing the soda fountains in Jackson, Mississippi, during the sit-ins.

Some drugstores just shut their doors instead of having black kids come in and sit down. It didn't work then, and it won't work now.

I've driven through Jena numerous times on the way to Texas...it's a little backwash hick town that has changed little in the 25 years that I've been driving through it. Resistant to change...that's probably the best description of this town. I guess what worked in 1960 still works in 2007 for that part of the state.

(I am NOT ripping on Louisiana AT ALL...I love the state--there are some liberal enclaves in Louisiana--but not in central Louisiana, where Jena is located.)
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 07:20 PM
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10. I think they should have left the tree AND the nooses, with a sign saying
"Christian values at work here"

:eyes:
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 07:26 PM
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12. If they really want to solve problems, howzabout dropping the BS charges against the black kids.
You've got white kids PULLING GUNS in all this, and
being sent home with no charges filed at all, while
black kids who get in a fistfight are being railroaded
for "attempted murder".

That's some seriously effed-up racist bullshit right there.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 08:28 PM
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15. No kidding and thank you...
Most posters in this thread are worried about the tree?

Incorrigible and undeniable...

It's school officials who should be charged for not creating a environment conducive for learning; they should have been more pro-active in 'de-segregating' the tree to begin with...and should simply bar racists who can't grow up...

They are already stupid -- no need for them to have an education...people like that should rot on the bottom rung where their attitudes live.

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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 09:56 PM
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21. I agree 100%
Jena's school board needs to know that the world is watching.
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RedCappedBandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 10:06 PM
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26. Agreed. Ty.
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 10:14 PM
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27. Yes, it sounds as if the authorities still aren't ready to admit how
unfair the whole situation is. They still don't think they have a racism problem, but now they want a cookie for cutting down the tree.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 04:51 AM
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33. yup. What this does MOST is...show how out-of-touch they still are. nm
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 07:34 PM
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13. Is it now the 'White Stump'? PBS NewsHr said Jena'd given KKK candidate David Duke
a 60 percent majority in Duke's statewide run some years back. Also, it said that the kids at the town swimming pool were about evenly split by race.

Since very few African-Americans would have voted for the KKK, it would seem likely that white racial extremism enjoys 90-plus percent white support in Jena. I wonder whether the school superintendent who "un-punished" the noose hangers is an outright member of the KKK.

I also wonder the cut-down tree is now regarded as the "White Stump".
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 07:56 PM
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14. Smart? Not! Now they will just say.. "right over there, there used to be a tree where...."
Chopping down the tree solves nothing..The evil was in their minds....not in the tree...
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 08:59 PM
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16. Hope many will read the articles. Here's an interview from Democracy Now:
Tuesday, July 10th, 2007
The Case of the Jena Six: Black High School Students Charged with Attempted Murder for Schoolyard Fight After Nooses Are Hung from Tree

Listen to Segment || Download Show mp3
Watch 128k stream Watch 256k stream

~snip~
JACQUIE SOOHEN: Robert Bailey, seventeen years old and a safety receiver for the school football team, is another of the Jena 6 facing life behind bars. He described his reaction to the nooses.

ROBERT BAILEY: It was in the early morning. I seen them hanging. I’m thinking the KKK, you know, were hanging nooses. They want to hang somebody. Real nooses, the ones you see on TV are the kind of nooses they were, the ones they play in the movies and they were hanging all the people, you know, and the thing dropped, those were the kind of nooses they were. I know it was somebody white that hung the nooses in the tree. You know, I don’t know another way to put it, but, you know, I was disappointed, because, you know, we do little pranks -- you know, toilet paper, that’s a prank, you know what I’m saying? Paper all over the square, all the pranks they used to do, that’s pranks. Nooses hanging there -- nooses ain't no prank.

JACQUIE SOOHEN: The school’s superintendent dismissed the nooses as a prank, and after three days’ suspension, the three white students who hung the nooses were allowed back to school. Caseptla Bailey, Robert's mother, said the school did not inform the parents of the incident.

CASEPTLA BAILEY: The school didn’t tell me. I didn’t know that it happened, so therefore I didn’t call to find out what happened on that particular day.

JACQUIE SOOHEN: To Caseptla Bailey, the meaning of the nooses was clear.

CASEPTLA BAILEY: It meant hatred, to the other race. It meant that “We’re going to kill you, you're going to die.” You know, it sent a message: “This is not the place for you to sit. This is not your damn tree. Do not sit here. You know, you ought to remain in your place, know your place and stay in your place. You’re out of your boundaries.” And the first thing now that the sheriff department or that the chief of police want to say that -- as well as the superintendent -- one had nothing to do with the other. Now, come on now!

JACQUIE SOOHEN: Most people we spoke to in Jena’s white community, however, see no connection between the students’ charges and race. Barbara Murphy, the town librarian, claims there isn’t a race problem in Jena.

BARBARA MURPHY: We don’t have a race problem. It’s not black against white. It’s crime. The nooses? I don’t even know why they were there, what they were supposed to mean. There’s pranks all the time, of one type or another, going on. And it just didn’t seem to be racist to me.

JACQUIE SOOHEN: A few days after the nooses were hung, the entire black student body staged an impromptu demonstration, crowding underneath the tree during lunch hour. Justin Purvis, the student who first asked to sit underneath the tree, described how the protest came about.

JUSTIN PURVIS: It was like, the first beginning, in the courtyard, they said, “Y’all want to go stand under the tree?” We said, “Yeah.” They said, “If you go, I’ll go. If you go, I’ll go.” One person went, the next person went, everybody else just went.

JACQUIE SOOHEN: The school responded to the protest by calling police and the district attorney. At an assembly the same day, the District Attorney Reed Walters, accompanied by armed policeman, addressed the students. Substitute teacher Michelle Rogers, one of the few black teachers at the school, was there. She recalls the DA's words to the assembled high schoolers.

MICHELLE ROGERS: The kids didn't say anything. They were listening. The kids were quiet. And so, District Attorney Reed Walters, you know, proceeded to tell those kids that “I could end your lives with the stroke of a pen.” And the kids were just -- it was like in awe that the district -- you know, Reed Walters would tell these kids that. He held a pen in his hand and told those kids that, “See this pen in my hand? I can end your lives with the stroke of a pen.”

JACQUIE SOOHEN: A series of incidents followed throughout the fall. In October, a black student was beaten for entering a private all-white party. Later that month, a white student pulled a gun on a group of black students at a gas station, claiming self-defense. The black students wrestled the gun away and reported the incident to police. They were charged with assault and robbery of the gun. No charges were ever filed against the white students in either incident. Then, in late November, someone tried to burn down the high school, creating even more tension.

Four days later, a white student was allegedly attacked in a school fight. The victim was taken to hospital and released shortly with a concussion. He attended a school function that evening. Six black students were charged with attempted second-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder, on charges that leave them facing between twenty and one hundred years in jail. The defendants, ranging in age from fifteen to seventeen, had their bonds set at between $70,000 and $138,000. The attack was written up in the local paper as fact, and DA Reed Walters published a statement in which he said, "When you are convicted, I will seek the maximum penalty allowed by law."
(snip/...)

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/07/10/1413220
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Luna_C_06 Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 10:34 PM
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29. Just going threw some quotes here.
"....They want to hang somebody. Real nooses..."
".....We’re going to kill you, you're going to die....”
"....You know, you ought to remain in your place..."
"....The nooses?.....it just didn’t seem to be racist to me..."

And from the DA: “See this pen in my hand? I can end your lives with the stroke of a pen.”

And the black kid beaten at the all-white party, to the white kid pulling a gun on the group of black kids (and the black kids being charged all while not one white student is charged!!)to the fight that ended with 6 kids having muurder charges brought against them, with the possiblilty of 20 to 100 years in jail.

And this, also from the DA: "When you are convicted, I will seek the maximum penalty allowed by law."

When? WHEN!? Well, so much for a fair trial.
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Ferretherder Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 06:09 AM
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34. I hate to hear what Reed Walters said to the students because...
...his older brother was my best friend in high school, and Reed, who was a grade below us, always seemed like a really smart, athletically-inclined, and NICE guy. It is REALLY sad to see some of the bizarre shit he is saying in connection with this case. Talk about destroying some childhood memories!
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 09:12 PM
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17. I'm mixed on this.
Several here have correctrly pinted out that it was not the tree's fault, but yet is is also a symbol of racism and predjudice, and destroying symbols has some value
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Truthiness Inspector Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 09:29 PM
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19. Instead of cutting down the tree
why not be a little more creative and instructional?

For example: Have the offending students who hung the nooses write historical essays detailing what they did wrong and hang those on the tree? How about setting up some type of plaque or item of significance under the tree with wording like "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"?

Just off the top of my head.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 09:37 PM
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20. It would seem logical that in a really hot, humid climate, shelter from a blazing sun
under a well established tree allowed the white a-holes to hog the only livable place to stand in the courtyard.
Now you wouldn't want those delicate flowers to get all hot and sticky, would you?


Everyone else should have some respect for their royal whitenesses.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 10:02 PM
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24. Link to the Radar video that covered this story
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RedCappedBandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 10:05 PM
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25. Of course, destroy the friggin tree..
when are humans going to realize *they* are the problem? :)
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 10:18 PM
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28. Alluding to a lynching is not a prank, the symbolism was clear.
The 3 guilty individuals were suspended, and during their suspension, there should have been leadership within the school to educate the students, that even what they "might" consider a prank, is, more often than not, taken in literal interpretation.

The tree should have been for everyone to find shade under. The only "unwritten laws" that are adhered to, are the ones that are not challenged, the youngsters challenged a more, as they should have.

With the one kid getting up to 22 years, that is a bit ridiculous, hope he wins on appeal.

And ALL of the students lost when the tree was cut down. Not only was it the wrong approach, as it "justified" the notion that blacks were not allowed under the tree, but now, no one can use it for shade. What should have been done, IMO, was to have a meeting of students under the tree, all races, both sexes and parents...make it a picnic like setting, with the tree as the focal point.

Not very clear thinking in this school district, and the core problem will remain, only move to a different location.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 11:23 PM
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30. Rasputin, I agree that, were there leaders in that community, your ideas...
would have been the perfect solution.

Unfortunately, all too often, the school boards in these little backwater towns (no matter where they are located, north, south, east, west) are headed by IGNORANT people who were not elected because they have leadership attributes or are college educated, but because they are known throughout the community for being "a good Christian," or for frowning on racial mixing, or for being anti-immigration.

How wonderful it would be, if Jena would elect someone with the moral compass to find a fair solution to this problem, but in the rural community in which the school is only 19% black, what chance do those kids even have?

Excellent post.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 11:25 PM
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31. And so ends racism all aroud the world...
:eyes:

Yes, it should have been cut down, but I hope that school doesn't expect that to end it.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-31-07 11:25 PM
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32. Looky that! It only took em what, a year? lolol!
At least now 'good whites' can claim the "plausible deniability" defense from here on out. Good strategy white folks of Jena!
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