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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 07:06 AM
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Eric Edelman: key conspirator in Sibel Edmonds case
Until recently, Eric Edelman, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy, was the most powerful neocon in the country that hardly anybody had ever heard of, despite his role in outing Valerie Plame.


For one reason or other, Edelman has been making a splash lately. He recently sent Hillary a letter telling her to stop giving aid & comfort to enemies, and earlier this week Bob Novak wrote that Edelman was briefing Congress on plans to secretly assassinate Kurdish fighters in Iraq.

Given Edelman's low public profile to date, there might be some things that you don't know about him. For example, did you know that Edelman replaced Doug Feith via a recess appointment? Do you know that he lied and told congress that he wasn't involved in the Plame investigation? Did you know that he was hated when he was the Ambassador to Turkey?

Oh. And did you know that he is neck-deep in the case of former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds?

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I became aware of Edelman's involvement in the criminal activity involved in Sibel Edmonds' case a couple of years ago (see sibel edmonds, brewster jennings, edelman and grossman and eric edelman bio. part one.)

In March of this year, Sibel and I were jointly being interviewed on a radio show when she said:
"I would like to actually go back and talk about the individuals that Luke Ryland named - for example, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Marc Grossman - another individual is Eric Edelman, because most people here already know, and they associate these guys with the neocons and also Israel, but there is another element there that ties all four individuals here.

If you look at, for example, Richard Perle, & Douglas Feith, these two individuals between 1988/89 to about 1995/96, they set up a lobbying firm called International Advisors Inc, and they registered as foreign agents, representing the government of Turkey, this is Richard Perle, & Douglas Feith, and of course we know that they became top guys within the Pentagon after the Bush administration came into power.

And then you look at Marc Grossman - Marc Grossman was the US ambassador to Turkey, from 1993 to 1997, and Marc Grossman became the number 3 guy in the State Department in this administration, and he resigned in 2005 and currently he is hired by one very large Turkish company that is also a front for a lot of illicit activities.

Then you can look at Eric Edelman who, 2 or 3 years ago, took Douglas Feith's old position at the Pentagon, and Eric Edelman was another ambassador to Turkey until he took this position at the Pentagon, so not only do these guys have Israel in common, they have Turkey in common - and people really should be paying attention to this, and looking into it, and this is why Luke Ryland has been doing this incredible job in terms of piecing these elements together, and packaging it, because this information is public! It doesn’t matter if I’m gagged on some issues, there's so much out there and so much that can easily be pieced together that our mainstream media has failed us"


If I'm not mistaken, this was the first time that Sibel mentioned Edelman by name, although he had previously made an appearance in Phil Giraldi's superb article on Sibel's case.

One of the big mysteries about Edelman was why he was moved from the heart of the OVP as Cheney's principal deputy national security adviser to become the Turkish Ambassador in 2003, immediately after the Iraq invasion when tensions with Turkey were at their peak. It's an odd career move. Jim Lobe sheds some light on this in a blog post on Tuesday:
"Cheney obviously thought highly enough of (Edelman's) work (and ideological tendencies) to name Edelman as his principal deputy national security adviser under Scooter Libby in 2001 and worked with Libby in the run-up to the Iraq invasion after which he was named ambassador to Turkey (on the strong recommendation, according to one knowledgeable source, of Richard Perle, who has long-standing interests in Turkey)."


Fancy that.

Edelman failed as an Ambassador in Turkey, at least by any of the usual metrics. A typical observation in the Turkish press was:
"Edelman is probably the least-liked and trusted American ambassador in Turkish history, and his reputation is not likely to recuperate. Edelman’s actions have exceeded his diplomatic mission. His ‘interest’ in nongovernmental organizations (NGOs), the Turkish media and ethnic minorities make him go beyond his role as an ambassador. His presence here has never contributed to Turkish-American relations, and it never will. If we want to address the reasons for anti-Americanism, Edelman must be issue one. As long as Edelman stays in Turkey, the chill wind disturbing bilateral relations will last."


'Despite' Edelman's 'failures' in Turkey, Lobe reports:
My understanding is that both Cheney and Perle played a role in persuading Rumsfeld to take on Edelman at the Pentagon after Feith announced his departure.


Again, fancy that.

Now, why are Perle, Feith, Grossman and Edelman desperate to hold key positions in embassies and the Pentagon? Here's Giraldi:
"Sibel Edmonds, the Turkish FBI translator turned whistleblower who has been subjected to a gag order could provide a major insight into how neoconservatives distort US foreign policy and enrich themselves at the same time. On one level, her story appears straightforward: several Turkish lobbying groups allegedly bribed congressmen to support policies favourable to Ankara. But beyond that, the Edmonds revelations become more serpentine and appear to involve AIPAC, Israel and a number of leading neoconservatives who have profited from the Turkish connection.

Some of (the bribes) may come from criminal activity, possibly drug trafficking, but much more might come from arms dealing. Contracts in the hundreds of millions, or even billions of dollars provide considerable fat for those well placed to benefit."


Indeed. Keep that in mind while you try to process the recent announcement that the Bush Egadministration has just announced $30bn in new weapons sales to Israel, and $20bn in sales to Saudi Arabia. And don't forget the recent $15bn in fighter-jet sales to Turkey.

Oh - and when Eric Edelman's name pops up in the media again, remember, he's not just a guy who wrote Hillary a nasty letter. Eric Edelman is a key conspirator in the Sibel Edmonds case.

Here's a YouTube clip that discusses how these investigations into anything that Sibel discusses keep getting shut down
youtube

Let Sibel Edmonds Speak
Call Waxman. Demand public open hearings:
DC phone: (202) 225-3976
LA phone: 323 651-1040
Capitol switchboard phone: 800-828-0498

(as always, let me know if you'd like to be added to my email list to be alerted whenever I publish a new Sibel-related post)
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 07:31 AM
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1. Thanks lukery.
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Spurt Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 07:33 AM
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2. K&R
Always inspired by your insight and tenacity Luke.

Thanks for all you do.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 07:52 AM
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5. thnx
more 'stubborness' than 'insight' i suspect - and certainly zero 'success'
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Spurt Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:15 AM
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17. And modest too!
Maybe stubbornness led to insight.

And there is success, just not the ultimate yet. Every time you write someone else becomes aware and/or better informed.

With your journey so long and the road so pot holed, I believe each step forward is truly a success.
Good on ya mate.

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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:31 AM
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20. thnx
ya know - as sibel says in the bit that i quoted - it's all there in plain sight. i just wish some msm journo would take a look. it's all there! heck - they can even give me a call and all do everything i can to point them in the right direction.

its so frustrating!

note that sibel doesnt say 'jeepers, luke is a genius!!!!!1!!!' - she says "there's so much out there and so much that can easily be pieced together that our mainstream media has failed us"


grrr. i'm feeling grumpy.
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Spurt Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:43 AM
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22. Hey grumpy.
Understood. I'll be grumpy with you for the same reasons.

Also because it is not just the journo's, but a few hollow promises from Reps. You there Dennis?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:46 AM
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23. If I hook you up with a journalist here,
you wouldn't mind, would you?
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:49 AM
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24. you're kidding, right?
Edited on Thu Aug-02-07 09:50 AM by lukery
i'd give my left leg to the cause.

(it is time for me to head to bed, though. good night)
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:51 AM
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25. Actually I'm working on that idea. I just haven't
asked you about it. Sleep well.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 07:42 AM
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3. k+r
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 07:46 AM
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4. K & R
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 07:55 AM
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6. I think people who gloss over these threads need to realize
how much many of them discuss things going on in this administration overlap alot with what Sibel says. I would like people to get on the train to let Sibel speak.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:00 AM
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8. its funny / frustrating
i actually thought that this post deserved some serious attention, but it isnt getting any traction. other times i just 'flippantly' post something or other and it goes crazy.

i posted something the other day that was 'old news' - and it got 500 recs at dkos.

i'm obviously a terrible judge.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:01 AM
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16. I think many of us don't know what to say anymore except "K&R."
Those of us who have been here and followed Sibel's case and all the other doings of the "Dark Actors Playing Games" are just overloaded. Signed so many petitions, Called our Congresscritters, faxed and phoned and marched in the streets that we are just plain burned out. Doesn't help that Scooter got pardoned and subpoena's don't get answered and it seems that all the criminality we know about seems to blur together after awhile...because nothing ever get's resolved.

It's not that many serious people aren't reading...it's just we don't know what to say anymore...except THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS and for still putting pieces together. Maybe one day Waxman will have a hearing.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:19 AM
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18. Another approach is needed.
We all need to put our heads together. Seems the old methods don't work anymore.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:36 AM
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21. when i'm feeling down
when i'm feeling down i'm not sure that anything can work.

i hope you have more luck/success than i have had mmonk. you deserve it.

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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 07:57 AM
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7. darkly amusing
This is the lede from Wapo's editorial yesterday:
"THE BUSH administration's announcement of new Middle Eastern arms sales and aid is as much a political as a military initiative."

yeah - no mention of PROFITABLE.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/31/AR2007073101763.html
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:03 AM
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9. We have to make his name, face & proclivities as famous as his
fellow neo-cons..

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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:17 AM
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11. thank you anna
you are right - the more sunlight the better.

btw - you could have chosen a *much* uglier mugshot than that! - there are plenty around - i used one in this vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHnIyGWEz_Y
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:43 AM
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12. Oh I think he's plenty ugly in his official pic.. Beauty is as Beauty does, you know. . n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:48 AM
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13. "many dark actors playing games,"
David Kelly. Now deceased. His words still bounce around in my head. He may have been speaking about others completely removed from this. But that quote I apply to these people.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:55 AM
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14. yep....n/t
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:58 AM
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15. as sibel says
there's only one small group of people - and they are dangerous. (or, as sibel pronounces it 'dengerous'!)

you are right to remember him. sigh. it saddens me though.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:13 AM
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10. Posted in Sibel Group
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:28 AM
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19. That's another Bushpile that I'd like to see behind bars!!!!
Bushpile -

K&R!!!
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:25 AM
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26. K&R
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:25 PM
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27. .
:kick:
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:31 PM
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28. thanks for this info--we need to be aware of how this
whole web of people are working behind the scenes.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 02:19 PM
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29. K&R, don't give up!

I think part of the problem in trying to expose this is that it involves AIPAC. Once the people who truly support Israel begin to realize that this type of corruption is not in Israel's best interests, then the media may finally start paying attention.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 02:35 PM
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30. Highly recommended!
Thanks for shining the spotlight on these traitors! I'm not sure if I missed anything, but definitely add me to your email list.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 06:14 PM
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32. send me your email addy n/t
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kiteinthewind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 03:56 PM
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31. Thanks for keeping this up front, lukery! nt
:kick:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 07:06 PM
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33. Other contact information
Committee on Oversight and Government Reform
U.S. House of Representatives
2157 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
(202) 225-5051


Subcommittee on National Security and Foreign Affairs website

http://nationalsecurity.oversight.house.gov/about/subcommittees/nationalsecurity.asp
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 12:33 AM
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34. 2 more posts lukery, and you'll be at 1000!!!
It better be the post that reads:

"Sibel Edmonds finally aloud to speak out and tells truth: Bush Administration directly tied to terrorist highjackers on 9/11!!!"

One can dream...

Some day, Sibel's truth will come out - and oh, will the shit ever hit the fan.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 12:52 AM
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35. going dark
hmmmm - perhaps i should go dark till then...
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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:04 AM
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36. A small group?
Edited on Fri Aug-03-07 01:08 AM by noise
Isn't the whole point of the MIC to distort foreign policy? Diplomacy bad. Military solutions good. Aren't the neocons simply more aggressive salesmen for the MIC?

It seems these people are untouchable because the MIC calls the shots. Of course I'm not saying it's right. But that would explain why Rep. Waxman hasn't held hearings.

Not trying to be an a-hole. Still struggling to understand what we are dealing with.
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lukery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:38 AM
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37. you are correct, my error
sibel:
"But I can tell you there are a lot of people involved, a lot of ranking officials, and a lot of illegal activities that include multi-billion-dollar drug-smuggling operations, black-market nuclear sales to terrorists and unsavory regimes, you name it. And of course a lot of people from abroad are involved. It's massive. So to do this investigation, to really do it, they will have to look into everything.

CD: But you can start from anywhere –

SE: That's the beauty of it. You can start from the AIPAC angle. You can start from the Plame case. You can start from my case. They all end up going to the same place, and they revolve around the same nucleus of people. There may be a lot of them, but it is one group. And they are very dangerous for all of us."
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