Criminal cover-up of Ohio's stolen 2004 election sinks to the fraudulent, the absurd, the pathetic

[L. Coyote]

An important consideration in this matter is that Fitrakis and Brunner are on opposite sides of an ongoing litigation. I do not agree with Dem bashing Brunner. First-hand, it seems to me the new SoS office is working to restore democracy in Ohio.

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The criminal cover-up of Ohio's stolen 2004 election sinks to the fraudulent, the absurd, the pathetic
by Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman
August 2, 2007
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2007/27...

The illegal destruction of federally protected 2004 election materials by 56 of 88 Ohio counties has become a fraudulent "dog ate my homework" farce of absurd justifications and criminal coverups.

The mass elimination of the critical evidence that could definitively prove or disprove the presumption that the 2004 election was stolen has all the markings of a Rovian crime perpetrated to hide another one. Indeed, under Ohio law, that's precisely what must be presumed here.

But what makes the situation downright pathetic is that Ohio's new Democratic Secretary of State, Jennifer Brunner, has publicly stated she sees "no evidence" of intentional destruction in the disappearance in more than 60% of the state's counties of the ballots from the 2004 presidential election.

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[riqster]

1. Bob's heart is always in the right place-His head, alas, is not always so

[shance]

2. This should prove that re-counts do not work with people who cheat.

If they cheated initially then their going to cheat again.

[L. Coyote]

4. Recounts don't work if the ballots are in the wrong precinct, and counted wrong.

No matter how often recounted! These activists would not listen to that argument in 2004.

Ohio ballots lacked precinct identifiers (excepting voter fingerprints).

Moving a ballot to another precinct can change a Kerry vote to a Bush vote undetected.

The 2004 Ohio Presidential Election: Cuyahoga County Analysis
How Kerry Votes Were Switched to Bush Votes
http://jqjacobs.net/politics/ohio.html

[mod mom]

3. Neither party wants the outcome of 2004 to ever be acknowledged-the Dems

want the issue to fade away YET we voters deserve to know the truth. A judge ordered the retention of the ballots and the disappearance despite the order points to a criminal action, imho.

[L. Coyote]

5. Marc Dann is the OHIO Attroney General

http://www.ag.state.oh.us/

Ask him to investigate this, especially the fingerprints on the ballots to determine the amount of precict-switching of ballots to fraudulently alter the election result.

[Kolesar]

6. Perhaps SOS Brunner is not ready to name names because there is "no evidence"

... of intentional destruction. This is an important story, though. If there is not intentional destruction, there still may be criminal malfeasance. Two Cuyahoga BOE staffers went to jail over election violations this year.

[L. Coyote]

7. Is what is pathetic the authors' blatant falsehood?

They write, "... Ohio's new Democratic Secretary of State, Jennifer Brunner, has publicly stated she sees "no evidence" of intentional destruction in the disappearance in more than 60% of the state's counties of the ballots from the 2004 presidential election."

This is not accurate. I would cite same authors as a source. There is something amiss with over half the counties, by their reporting, but not all those problems are missing the ballots. This seems like blatant falsehood!

[L. Coyote]

8. Are Harvey Wasserman and Bob Fitrakis (election fraud activists) considered credible by DU?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1484924

[Kolesar]

9. Sorry, don't understand...eom

[L. Coyote]

10. In some counties, the ballots are still there and other material is missing.

But, they write it otherwise, in an alarmist vein saying all those counties were missing their ballots. Not true, plainly, in their own words elsewhere.

[Blackhatjack]

11. Violate a Federal Court Order ---Go To Jail. No Question.

With all the interest in these ballots and election materials and the court action, there is exactly ZERO CHANCE that these items are 'accidentally destroyed' and/or have 'gone missing.'

I know a few Federal Judges that take a dim view of any official violating one of their orders, and would not hesitate for a second to have them taken into custody and jailed indefinitely until there is full disclosure and they have been indicted for their crimes.

If there is no Court action against the individuals involved in the destruction of ballots and missing election materials, you will know something is up. This just does not happen in any legitimate court system.

[L. Coyote]

12. Here is the correct link

The criminal cover-up of Ohio's stolen 2004 election sinks to the fraudulent, the absurd, the pathetic
by Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman
August 2, 2007
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2007/2730

The illegal destruction of federally protected 2004 election materials by 56 of 88 Ohio counties has become a fraudulent "dog ate my homework" farce of absurd justifications and criminal coverups. ......